Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

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And the people wouldn’t be match going evertonians. Or actually in line but rather just hanging on the corner.
And you would have to be a season ticket holder, who’s already been allocated a ticket, only to have one of the people fleeing The Winslow snatch it out of your hand and run off.
 
Hypothetical.

It actually happened in 1995 you idiot.

P. S. I suppose you also support those obnoxious RS fans who blagged their way in the CL final in Athens with fake or stolen tickets as well.

P. P. S. No overtime paying? Trump has said explicitly that he wants to eliminate tax on overtime payments. Not the same thing, but sure, stay with your narrative.

My personal take on these scenarios is that I don't agree with any of them. Exactly like my stance on illegal immigration, I don't like it and I want it stopped.

This is where I think those on the right get confused, they think that we all want a free for all. In my opinion, as a left leaning person is that there should be access to move country. I am not talking about 100% open borders but a system that negates the need for illegal immigration. A process in place for a fair and efficient application policy to become a resident, and after some time a citizen, of another country. That would be the end game for any policy that I would support on immigration.

The illegals are not coming over to steal anybody's jobs or tickets to an FA cup final. They are illegal, I guess their main hope is many but one could be to remove themselves from a dangerous situation in the home country. By definition they are illegal, they have no rights, they have no IDs that would enable them to legally work in the country.

The fact is the people on the right want to simplify it and create a hyperbolic situation where they are ALL criminals and coming over to steal your job, fraud the benefit system and/or rape and pillage.
 
yeah, mind bending.
It should be very concerning that older scousers who saw what happened the city under an extreme right wing government should weigh in behind him.
I could sort of see why some liked him in 2016, but eight years on, if you're still supporting that charlatan + from the uk you're either a hardcore Tory/reform voter, a die-hard evangelical, or a total ming.
 
Hypothetical.

It actually happened in 1995 you idiot.

P. S. I suppose you also support those obnoxious RS fans who blagged their way in the CL final in Athens with fake or stolen tickets as well.

P. P. S. No overtime paying? Trump has said explicitly that he wants to eliminate tax on overtime payments. Not the same thing, but sure, stay with your narrative.
I’d want to see the fine print on that promise. Would he actually eliminate the tax on overtime, or just the withholding from the paychecks? If it’s the latter, it’s just like the bait and switch from his tax “cuts” while he was in office. They started withholding less, but didn’t actually lower the taxes. The end result was that lower income people, many of whom have come to depend on getting a tax refund every spring, either didn’t get one the first year after the changes, or in many cases actually ended up owing the IRS money.
 
I’d want to see the fine print on that promise. Would he actually eliminate the tax on overtime, or just the withholding from the paychecks? If it’s the latter, it’s just like the bait and switch from his tax “cuts” while he was in office. They started withholding less, but didn’t actually lower the taxes. The end result was that lower income people, many of whom have come to depend on getting a tax refund every spring, either didn’t get one the first year after the changes, or in many cases actually ended up owing the IRS money.
Think he's mixing it up with eliminating tax on tips, which both sides have promised because it is probably long overdue.
Trump hates overtime and wants to do away with it. It is in Project 2025 also. They propose switching the 40hr week to 160 hour month so employers can manipulate the roster to eliminate overtime.
 
My personal take on these scenarios is that I don't agree with any of them. Exactly like my stance on illegal immigration, I don't like it and I want it stopped.

This is where I think those on the right get confused, they think that we all want a free for all. In my opinion, as a left leaning person is that there should be access to move country. I am not talking about 100% open borders but a system that negates the need for illegal immigration. A process in place for a fair and efficient application policy to become a resident, and after some time a citizen, of another country. That would be the end game for any policy that I would support on immigration.

The illegals are not coming over to steal anybody's jobs or tickets to an FA cup final. They are illegal, I guess their main hope is many but one could be to remove themselves from a dangerous situation in the home country. By definition they are illegal, they have no rights, they have no IDs that would enable them to legally work in the country.

The fact is the people on the right want to simplify it and create a hyperbolic situation where they are ALL criminals and coming over to steal your job, fraud the benefit system and/or rape and pillage.
good post.
I came to the states legally but know lots who didnt.
They just came through airports and overstayed holiday visas.
A huge amount of illegal immigration happens this way.
But these people aren't vilified by the right because they look like them and speak the same language.
It's all politics.
It was absolutely hideous to see the gov of florida fly a plane load of immigrants from texas to Marthas vinyard as a stunt.
These are f'in people.
And the vinyard pretty much closes for half the year. They got moved to the cape and processed. No big deal.
Democrats werent out with pitch forks screaming against the bipartizan border bill Trump shot down.
Everyone wants controlled borders but with straightforward pathways to live here.
I know illegals who live here and love trump because 'he'll close the southern border and who knows what diseases those immigrants bring with them'

Honestly, Trump has poisoned the minds of so many. I pray today is the end of it.
 
My personal take on these scenarios is that I don't agree with any of them. Exactly like my stance on illegal immigration, I don't like it and I want it stopped.

This is where I think those on the right get confused, they think that we all want a free for all. In my opinion, as a left leaning person is that there should be access to move country. I am not talking about 100% open borders but a system that negates the need for illegal immigration. A process in place for a fair and efficient application policy to become a resident, and after some time a citizen, of another country. That would be the end game for any policy that I would support on immigration.

The illegals are not coming over to steal anybody's jobs or tickets to an FA cup final. They are illegal, I guess their main hope is many but one could be to remove themselves from a dangerous situation in the home country. By definition they are illegal, they have no rights, they have no IDs that would enable them to legally work in the country.

The fact is the people on the right want to simplify it and create a hyperbolic situation where they are ALL criminals and coming over to steal your job, fraud the benefit system and/or rape and pillage.
Then why do certain finance "experts" claim that Trumps stance on deporting illegal immigrants having a huge negative impact on the economy due to the loss of manual labour jobs?

If, as you say, illegal immigrants Cant work, then those being deported wont have an effect. Simultaneously, if people are there legally, they wont being be deported so the loss of jobs wont occur.

For the record, ill state this explicitly because someone will take it out of context. I was not suggesting that any of the people who bunked into the queue in 1995 and prevented many fans from getting tickets were illegal immigrants. I was making a point about how systems that allow people to abuse them have a knock on effect somewhere down the line.
 
yeah, mind bending.
It should be very concerning that older scousers who saw what happened the city under an extreme right wing government should weigh in behind him.

Up until the 70s and thatcher liverpool was a right wing, unionist city so it’s never a surprise to me.

We will be one of the main targets for reform in the next election over here.
 
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