Current Affairs 2024 POTUS race

[Toffeepot]

I hope I'm wrong because I dont want that racist misogynist lunatic Trump to prevail, but coming down the track I can see a lot of the uncommitted looking at the ticket and seeing the Trump ticket being a bitter pill they'll swallow. Harris isn't a great attraction - the strategy of keeping her away from interviews is a good one because she's pretty poor. I wonder if she will be seen as ineffective and the continuity candidate, and that both she and Walz look incredibly light weight in comparison to the big personalities of Trump and Vance.

Harris-Walz look poor when you consider some of the tickets the Democrats have had in recent years: Obama-Biden or even Kerry-Edwards. Even Clinton-Kaine look hefty in comparison.

She's doing the traditional 60 minutes interview on Oct 7th
Trump has pulled out of his citing 'fake news bla bla bla'
She's a lot better at interviewing than him and the quieter he is for the remainder the better for him. Unfortunately he is starting to accept that too

 

[Toffeepot]

Hold on a second. I stated 'a Newsom' type VP candidate - not necessarily him. I meant by that someone a bit more polished.

You will concede, I hope, that someone like Shapiro would have been more useful to Harris given the knife edge race in Pennsylvania - current polling showing a tie on 48%-48%?

Walz just seems like a waste of a VP nomination to me.

Polls have been skewed for years. Mostly because polling younger people is much more difficult than previously
Younger people prefer democrat ideology

 

[davek]

She's doing the traditional 60 minutes interview on Oct 7th
Trump has pulled out of his citing 'fake news bla bla bla'
She's a lot better at interviewing than him and the quieter he is for the remainder the better for him. Unfortunately he is starting to accept that too

Yes, he's appalling in front of the media. If the GOP just limit his next 5 weeks or so to campaign rallies it looks ominous for Harris.

The polls have defo turned slightly again in his favour.

As with when Harris was in the lead though: this is going to be down to the wire with thousands of votes in one or another swing state deciding the whole election.

It's 50-50 and I dont think anyone gets a larger than margin of error lead from now on in.

 

[tsubaki]

Hold on a second. I stated 'a Newsom' type VP candidate - not necessarily him. I meant by that someone a bit more polished.

You will concede, I hope, that someone like Shapiro would have been more useful to Harris given the knife edge race in Pennsylvania - current polling showing a tie on 48%-48%?

Walz just seems like a waste of a VP nomination to me.

Shapiro would have caused more damage elsewhere. The damage to Walz is, ironically enough, the same damage that is being done to Vance - the lead campaign is forcing them into positions that were not the reason why they got the job in the first place. Both men need to be able to say that they have differing views to the lead candidate on occasion and be able to elaborate them.

 

[davek]

Shapiro would have caused more damage elsewhere. The damage to Walz is, ironically enough, the same damage that is being done to Vance - the lead campaign is forcing them into positions that were not the reason why they got the job in the first place. Both men need to be able to say that they have differing views to the lead candidate on occasion and be able to elaborate them.

Never going to happen.

I take it you mean on Shapiro that the middle east situation alienates him from some Democratic voters?

 

[Toffeepot]

Yes, he's appalling in front of the media. If the GOP just limit his next 5 weeks or so to campaign rallies it looks ominous for Harris.

The polls have defo turned slightly again in his favour.

As with when Harris was in the lead though: this is going to be down to the wire with thousands of votes in one or another swing state deciding the whole election.

It's 50-50 and I dont think anyone gets a larger than margin of error lead from now on in.

Unfortunately it does look like it's going down to the wire, as mind numbingly crazy as that is, though I do think she'll do it.

 

[goog]

To be hired in a company, even the most ramshackle one, you undergo IQ tests. Now they don't call them IQ tests anymore because it's not politically correct but rather psychometric tests or some other pseudonym but they are IQ tests. Is it right that a complete idiot like Kamala, with the I.Q. fewer than 80 can run for president of the United States? Introduce IQ tests also for being the president of the USA and not just for being a cashier in a supermarket. An IQ of 78 like Kamala wouldn't get hired as a supermarket cashier unless the boss was Willie Brown

 

[Ruairi77]

Hold on a second. I stated 'a Newsom' type VP candidate - not necessarily him. I meant by that someone a bit more polished.

You will concede, I hope, that someone like Shapiro would have been more useful to Harris given the knife edge race in Pennsylvania - current polling showing a tie on 48%-48%?

Walz just seems like a waste of a VP nomination to me.

One minute you are raving about the Muslim vote in Michigan, the next you're proposing Shapiro (another pol you'd never heard of).
Shapiro would definitely have done better last night. It would have been a straight up Harvard/Yale match up.
But he could get picked apart for doing things like supporting school vouchers.
Anyway, Shapiro might be just as influential to the PA vote as governor as he would be as VP candidate.
I dont know much about him, Pittsburghfooty would obviously know way more.

Just spend a bit longer forming your opinions before you go weighing in post after post.

 

[Ruairi77]

Shapiro would have caused more damage elsewhere. The damage to Walz is, ironically enough, the same damage that is being done to Vance - the lead campaign is forcing them into positions that were not the reason why they got the job in the first place. Both men need to be able to say that they have differing views to the lead candidate on occasion and be able to elaborate them.

What differing views would Walz have to Harris?

 

[Ruairi77]

To be hired in a company, even the most ramshackle one, you undergo IQ tests. Now they don't call them IQ tests anymore because it's not politically correct but rather psychometric tests or some other pseudonym but they are IQ tests. Is it right that a complete idiot like Kamala, with the I.Q. fewer than 80 can run for president of the United States? Introduce IQ tests also for being the president of the USA and not just for being a cashier in a supermarket. An IQ of 78 like Kamala wouldn't get hired as a supermarket cashier unless the boss was Willie Brown

hey, it's fun goog!

 

[dublinbluenose]

To be hired in a company, even the most ramshackle one, you undergo IQ tests. Now they don't call them IQ tests anymore because it's not politically correct but rather psychometric tests or some other pseudonym but they are IQ tests. Is it right that a complete idiot like Kamala, with the I.Q. fewer than 80 can run for president of the United States? Introduce IQ tests also for being the president of the USA and not just for being a cashier in a supermarket. An IQ of 78 like Kamala wouldn't get hired as a supermarket cashier unless the boss was Willie Brown

Wow - were the DNC aware of this anonymous reddit post before the convention? This is huge.

 

[goog]

Wow - were the DNC aware of this anonymous reddit post before the convention? This is huge.

78 is a surprise because it's even high considering what she says. The funniest thing is hearing her talk about economics but she gives pearls on every topic

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

To be hired in a company, even the most ramshackle one, you undergo IQ tests. Now they don't call them IQ tests anymore because it's not politically correct but rather psychometric tests or some other pseudonym but they are IQ tests. Is it right that a complete idiot like Kamala, with the I.Q. fewer than 80 can run for president of the United States? Introduce IQ tests also for being the president of the USA and not just for being a cashier in a supermarket. An IQ of 78 like Kamala wouldn't get hired as a supermarket cashier unless the boss was Willie Brown

Excellent parody account

This is fantastic stuff.

 

[davek]

Unfortunately it does look like it's going down to the wire, as mind numbingly crazy as that is, though I do think she'll do it.

She should do it. National polling still steadily in her favour for 2 months.

However, Trump rallies in these elections. 2016 and 2020 he closed down deficits to win and narrowly lose, respectively.

And right now it looks like - in the swing states - Harris's campaign peaked around the 18th-20th September polling where she held a very narrow lead in Arizona (now 1.4% in Trump's favour); was within 0.3% of Trump in Georgia (now 1.2% in Trump's favour); in Michigan her lead over Trump was 2.7% (and now it's down to 1.8%); in North Carolina a 0.2% lead (and now a deficit of 0.6%); a 1.9% lead in Pennsylvania (that's dwindled now to 0.6% lead); and in Wisconsin her lead over Trump was at 2.7% (and is down now to a 1.6% lead).

4 weeks or so away from GE day and that trend can go back toward her, of course. How the deteriorating international situation has an effect is anyone's guess.

 

[emir]