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Yep, this bill that you haven't read and won't pass is defo the thing to be worrying about right now
Mind numbing that people can think to pay people who aren’t even supposed to be here before helping Americans. From two completely walks of life
 
Mind numbing that people can think to pay people who aren’t even supposed to be here before helping Americans. From two completely walks of life



You'll have to accept that it's more mind numbing for most people that there is effectively a toddler in the highest office of the US who clearly has no idea what he is doing as tens of thousands of US citizens die and the economy tanks. Most people can't be distracted from that truth by Tucker Carlson segment
 
Mind numbing that people can think to pay people who aren’t even supposed to be here before helping Americans. From two completely walks of life
Firstly I am not offering my personal opinion...

What I read from multiple sources and direct parts from the bill.

It's aimed at the farming industry and others that have thus far during the lockdown have been working with little or no pay. The farmers have being paying taxes for them. Not just farming. Any industry where undocumented are employed.

Also mixed status families where even the legal status person was not eligible.

Not forgetting temporary work visa holders who not only are stuck but are now over their stay.

Finally those that are legal and have lived less than five years in the country get nothing.

Correct me if I am wrong on any of these but five sources have mentioned all of the above and no not left leaning sources.
 
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You'll have to accept that it's more mind numbing for most people that there is effectively a toddler in the highest office of the US who clearly has no idea what he is doing as tens of thousands of US citizens die and the economy tanks. Most people can't be distracted from that truth by Tucker Carlson segment
We will never agree.
 
Firstly I am not offering my personal opinion...

What I read from multiple sources and direct parts from the bill.

It's aimed at the farming industry and others that have thus far during the lockdown have been working with little or no pay. The farmers have being paying taxes for them. Not just farming. Any industry where undocumented are employed.

Also mixed status families where even the legal status person was not eligible.

Not forgetting temporary work visa holders who not only are stuck but are now over their stay.

Finally those that are legal and have lived less than five years in the country get nothing.

Correct me if I am wrong on any of these but five sources have mentioned all of the above and no not left leaning sources.

Everyone should be covered
 
I reckon there will be a day that you will admit President Clownshoes was dangerously incompetent and an absolute catastrophe as president once he's out of office and you don't need to unconditionally support him anymore. We'll agree then
I disagree with a lot of stuff he says. Don’t agree with the way he speaks about certain things. I do agree with a lot of policies as you may have seen. I root for the USA. And if the only reason you think he was catastrophic was Because of COVID, Lordy I cant help. He may hurt your feeling with words but he is saying what half the country believes. Which is why he will win agree. A lot of my buddies may not fully agree with him but will vote for him a second time just because of the lefts rhetoric and sore loser attitude that went on for 4 years. And unlike you and the other posse on here, if Biden wins, I will root for him as well even though he will be in a diaper and not calling a single shot. I want this country to thrive, not fail.
 
I think the fact that undocumented, illegal people qualify for the money when our own US citizens can’t even make ends meet right now. Don’t feel it’s right at all. Immunity for deportation. Voting laws changed but I haven’t got the details for you on exactly what that is.


thank goodness they have people tht


Oh 2k would be nice but if the 3T went to Americans, they payout would be 10k a pop
I still haven’t looked at the details but in principle I feel that helping undocumented immigrants has two components.

One is the moral one - I don’t want anyone in our rich country to starve regardless of their place of birth. If the bill isn’t enough to cushion US citizens then that should be addressed in its own right, not as an excuse to make others suffer.

Two is overall public health. As seen in places like Singapore who have had a resurgence overall in their cases because of outbreaks in poor, immigrant accommodation this virus doesn‘t check what someone’s nationality is and a certain percentage will end up filling hospital wards. Even if you don’t care about the health effects on the workers themselves they will also come into contact with others and given the exponential nature of the disease without fast action that can be easily be a huge issue for the community as a whole.
 
I still haven’t looked at the details but in principle I feel that helping undocumented immigrants has two components.

One is the moral one - I don’t want anyone in our rich country to starve regardless of their place of birth. If the bill isn’t enough to cushion US citizens then that should be addressed in its own right, not as an excuse to make others suffer.

Two is overall public health. As seen in places like Singapore who have had a resurgence overall in their cases because of outbreaks in poor, immigrant accommodation this virus doesn‘t check what someone’s nationality is and a certain percentage will end up filling hospital wards. Even if you don’t care about the health effects on the workers themselves they will also come into contact with others and given the exponential nature of the disease without fast action that can be easily be a huge issue for the community as a whole.
First part we unfortunately are across the isle on. And the second part I agree that the virus doesn’t care who you are. They have free testing and you can’t turn anyone down regardless of insurance or not at a hospital anyway. They will get the treatment if needed. The bill is just a big silly political play.
 
Mind numbing that people can think to pay people who aren’t even supposed to be here before helping Americans. From two completely walks of life
Reform agriculture.

Don't blame the people trying to survive and feed their families. Blame the billionaires that profit from a system where they benefit from sub-minimum wage labor and then use the "illegals" as an excuse to hold back on social services.
 
A lot of my buddies may not fully agree with him but will vote for him a second time just because of the lefts rhetoric and sore loser attitude that went on for 4 years.



Wow, what a fantastic reason to vote a dangerously inept moron back into the most powerful position in America. I said blind partisanship drove US elections, but clearly I was wrong
 
I disagree with a lot of stuff he says. Don’t agree with the way he speaks about certain things. I do agree with a lot of policies as you may have seen. I root for the USA. And if the only reason you think he was catastrophic was Because of COVID, Lordy I cant help. He may hurt your feeling with words but he is saying what half the country believes. Which is why he will win agree. A lot of my buddies may not fully agree with him but will vote for him a second time just because of the lefts rhetoric and sore loser attitude that went on for 4 years. And unlike you and the other posse on here, if Biden wins, I will root for him as well even though he will be in a diaper and not calling a single shot. I want this country to thrive, not fail.
Let it burn to own the libs, eh...
 
If we make the ridiculous assumption (since a huge number of them would be understandably sceptical of such a scheme and of supplying their information) that every single undocumented person in the US took up the $1200 offered (AND making the even more absurd assumption that every single undocumented person in the US is 1. an adult and 2. eligible), it would account for about one quarter of 1% of that bill.

THE HORROR
 
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