Current Affairs 2020 Democratic Primary

[sdk]

mate i don't care about cuts and edits, I know old people like him, he is talking exactly like them, we have seen and heard enough. this maybe a fabricated one but it is clear he is not fit mentally. he can't be on the ballot, it can even be considered elderly abuse. give me Pete or anybod else and I would be ok Bernie giving them a free ride to November, this is just sad and it is not Joe's fault at all.

By contrast, I think pretty much every clip I see of Biden is highly mediated (i.e., it's a clip) and, since I usually don't know its provenance, I have to assume that it's quite likely been edited to elicit a reaction in me, pro or con (but most likely con).

In other news, Blackwater founder and Ed Sec'y Betsy DeVos sibling Erik Prince is reported to have been colluding with Project Veritas to recruit people with espionage experience to infiltrate liberal organizations to find or create negative propaganda. Perhaps in your lack of confidence in Joe Biden's self-possession you've swallowed some whole.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Black people voting against their own economic interest in droves. Against Bernie who fought and marched for black rights all his life.

Man hating women voting against their own interests constantly slapping Bernies campaign with sexism he fought and marched for women’s rights his whole life.

Stomach churning.

Meanwhile Sanders considered a primary against Obama in 2012

The Hidden History of Sanders’s Plot to Primary Obama

Democrats’ previous president and maybe their next one have a particularly fraught relationship.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[sdk]

Man hating women voting against their own interests constantly slapping Bernies campaign with sexism he fought and marched for women’s rights his whole life.

Would you characterize your celibacy as involuntary?

 

[Deleted member 48881]

By contrast, I think pretty much every clip I see of Biden is highly mediated (i.e., it's a clip) and, since I usually don't know its provenance, I have to assume that it's quite likely been edited to elicit a reaction in me, pro or con (but most likely con).

In other news, Blackwater founder and Ed Sec'y Betsy DeVos sibling Erik Prince is reported to have been colluding with Project Veritas to recruit people with espionage experience to infiltrate liberal organizations to find or create negative propaganda. Perhaps in your lack of confidence in Joe Biden's self-possession you've swallowed some whole.

I want Trump to be defeated and Joe will not do such thing. what is there not to like about my stance? I don't even give a toss about Bernie's nomination anymore

 

[Mrk]

Black people voting against their own economic interest in droves. Against Bernie who fought and marched for black rights all his life.

Man hating women voting against their own interests constantly slapping Bernies campaign with sexism he fought and marched for women’s rights his whole life.

Stomach churning.

Always find it peculiar when people tell a minority that they're 'voting against their own best interests', as if they're somehow too stupid to think for themselves and should take instructions from a (typically) privileged white man.

 

[Death]

Meanwhile Sanders considered a primary against Obama in 2012

The Hidden History of Sanders’s Plot to Primary Obama

Democrats’ previous president and maybe their next one have a particularly fraught relationship.

www.theatlantic.com

It’s sickening these fickle reasons

 

[sdk]

I want Trump to be defeated and Joe will not do such thing. what is there not to like about my stance? I don't even give a toss about Bernie's nomination anymore

I was commenting on your diagnosis of Biden's condition from a remote location. (If you're his primary care provider, I apologize for my presumption.)

But now that you mention it, I don't see any reason to assume Biden's at a disadvantage against Trump compared to Sanders or any other potential Dem nominee. And Trump's efforts to discredit Biden by trying to find or invent dirt on his son's job in Ukraine suggests to me that the president is indeed concerned about his potential capacity to beat him on Election Day. Regardless, these are things we don't actually know. We're guessing. Guessing's fine so long as we recognize it for what it is and not imbue it with tones of certainty.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

I was commenting on your diagnosis of Biden's condition from a remote location. (If you're his primary care provider, I apologize for my presumption.)

But now that you mention it, I don't see any reason to assume Biden's at a disadvantage against Trump compared to Sanders or any other potential Dem nominee. And Trump's efforts to discredit Biden by trying to find or invent dirt on his son's job in Ukraine suggests to me that the president is indeed concerned about his potential capacity to beat him on Election Day. Regardless, these are things we don't actually know. We're guessing. Guessing's fine so long as we recognize it for what it is and not imbue it with tones of certainty.

Warren for one would be a far bigger challange for Trump than Joe, do you disagree?

 

[Death]

Always find it peculiar when people tell a minority that they're 'voting against their own best interests', as if they're somehow too stupid to think for themselves and should take instructions from a (typically) privileged white man.

Hopefully it’s less peculiar to you when it’s black peoples who have been saying it in droves about voting against they’re own interest. Random to bring that up to me unless you must be assuming I’m white.

 

[sdk]

Warren for one would be a far bigger challange for Trump than Joe, do you disagree?

I like to think so but it turns out there aren't nearly as many people as I'd hoped who are as impressed by Warren as I am. I thought Hillary Clinton beat Trump like a rented mule during the 2016 debates but if you ask a Trump fan you'll likely get the opposite opinion. Different people respond to different things, the jerks.

 

[Mrk]

Hopefully it’s less peculiar to you when it’s black peoples who have been saying it in droves about voting against they’re own interest. Random to bring that up to me unless you must be assuming I’m white.

Wasn't making an assumption about you, rather the people who tend to make that argument (hence 'typically').

People are intelligent enough to vote for themselves - sweeping generalisations and subtle accusations of class/racial betrayal only ever lead to division.

 

[Death]

Wasn't making an assumption about you, rather the people who tend to make that argument (hence 'typically').

People are intelligent enough to vote for themselves - sweeping generalisations and subtle accusations of class/racial betrayal only ever lead to division.

Ok but I didn’t mean racial betrayal I meant voting against economic interests. Put it’s been happening forever not just this election.

 

[Mrk]

Ok but I didn’t mean racial betrayal I meant voting against economic interests. Put it’s been happening forever not just this election.

Well, you might not mean it, but that's what you're saying by grouping them buy their race...

I trust that African Americans know what is in their best interests more than we do, and if as a community they overwhelmingly support Joe Biden, we have to accept that they think he is the best person to represent them.

 

[Death]

Well, you might not mean it, but that's what you're saying by grouping them buy their race...

I trust that African Americansvru know what is in their best interests more than we do, and if as a community they overwhelmingly support Joe Biden, we have to accept that they think he is the best person to represent them.

I don’t trust people in general vote for what’s in their best interest. Be it Ireland’s system, America or North Korea. I was just speaking in that particular demographic in that moment.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Omg I just seen the amount of man bashing going on in the comments there. I was moments away from chopping off my man-hood and incinerating it.

As I said earlier, and you declined to do, care to cite examples? Presumably a lot of them, since you decried “the amount” of man bashing? Unless of course you meant there should be more?

Because the vast majority of comments I saw were men criticising one woman for not endorsing (yet) the man they want her to endorse, or bashing another woman for not criticising the first woman.