It's irrelevant, Liverpool is a labour stronghold
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It's irrelevant, Liverpool is a labour stronghold
Oddly enough I take the opposite view, Andy.
This move makes no sense to me from the Tory point of view IMO.
Labour has no chance of winning.
The party would have continued tearing itself apart for the next two or three years until the next election and by then the wounds might have been so the damage was irreparable.
I have posted on here before that the way things are going, I did not expect to see a Labour government again in my lifetime.
But come June 9th, with one bound Labour will be free.
Not even Corbyn will have the brass neck to stay on after the looming disaster that awaits Labour.
Then the party can start take stock, wise up and get going again.
I hope
This is the gamble she's taking, but I sadly think the internal combustion within the Labour party will only worsen once Corbyn is gone and the two factions go hammer and tongs
Alanbileysfeathercut
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No SNP option?
Kirkby's local Labour government have demolished libraries, a sixth form college and so on, and built an elephant in a boat statue, three winged 'selfie' chairs and a dead tree with a UFO stuck in it.
They'll still vote Labour in their droves. Tribalism over common sense.
The Cowboy
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Doesn't mean you have to vote Labour. Vote however you want, even if you know they won't win.
Haha, I know where you're coming from mate. I'm from a typical working class background and have always thought of myself as a liberal, but today's "liberal" ideas aren't something I can get behind. I think there's nothing Democratic about this new era left. Even with that background I voted Leave, but that jobs been done now and I stand behind my decision. Genuinely can't associate with any party at the moment
AndyC
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Oddly enough I take the opposite view, Andy.
This move makes no sense to me from the Tory point of view IMO.
Labour has no chance of winning.
The party would have continued tearing itself apart for the next two or three years until the next election and by then the wounds might have been so the damage was irreparable.
I have posted on here before that the way things are going, I did not expect to see a Labour government again in my lifetime.
But come June 9th, with one bound Labour will be free.
Not even Corbyn will have the brass neck to stay on after the looming disaster that awaits Labour.
Then the party can start take stock, wise up and get going again.
I hope
Personally, I think (don't want it) the Tories will win by a massive majority unless all the opposition parties talk to one another and come up with some kind of united front that would probably have to be based on a Remain in Europe stance.
If that doesn't happen and the Tories do get a massive majority, I don't see Labour regaining power for the next three GE's.
Hate to say it, but the idealism of Corbyn and his dysfunctional leadership of the Labour Party has been/is/and will be massively damaging to the country as a whole. Every democracy needs a strong and capable opposition and right now, the UK doesn't have one, and might not for a long time.
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To be fair, Labour getting shot of Corbyn is quite a significant thing
I guess you could say May is doing Labour a favour by getting rid of Corbyn before he can make any more long-term damage to the party.
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I'm surprised by this but when I think about it I shouldn't be. When she confirmed she would put it to Parliament before accepting any final Brexit arrangement, I should have realised this was part of her long term plans. She seemed far too confident of getting the support of Parliament.
Add to this that Labour are in disarray. Only the strongest Corbyn supporter would argue with this. Plus the UKIP are now a spent force. Despite only having 1 MP, UKIP were the clear third largest party in terms of votes two years ago. Given that most of those voters would have been in favour of leaving the EEC, and Theresa May's stance on Brexit, I think it's fair to assume that the majority of those voters will now switch to the Tories. There may also be a small swing of Brexit supporters from Labour to the Tories too. I also think there will be a large swing of Remainers from Labour to LibDems and also a similar but much smaller swing from the Tories to LibDems too.
It also answers a lot of those claims that because she hasn't won an election that she doesn't have a proper mandate from the people. Also, I've no doubt that she's done her research and is uber confident of getting a much increased majority.
I personally believe the positive swing from UKIP, coupled with labour losing a lot of voters to LibDems, will result in the Tories getting a massive majority. Having such a strong Govt cannot be good long term for the country. The whole foundation of our political system relies on a strong opposition party keeping the Govt in check and I wouldn't be surprised if the three main opposition parties will have less than 25% of seats between them.
I think she's been very clever here.
Add to this that Labour are in disarray. Only the strongest Corbyn supporter would argue with this. Plus the UKIP are now a spent force. Despite only having 1 MP, UKIP were the clear third largest party in terms of votes two years ago. Given that most of those voters would have been in favour of leaving the EEC, and Theresa May's stance on Brexit, I think it's fair to assume that the majority of those voters will now switch to the Tories. There may also be a small swing of Brexit supporters from Labour to the Tories too. I also think there will be a large swing of Remainers from Labour to LibDems and also a similar but much smaller swing from the Tories to LibDems too.
It also answers a lot of those claims that because she hasn't won an election that she doesn't have a proper mandate from the people. Also, I've no doubt that she's done her research and is uber confident of getting a much increased majority.
I personally believe the positive swing from UKIP, coupled with labour losing a lot of voters to LibDems, will result in the Tories getting a massive majority. Having such a strong Govt cannot be good long term for the country. The whole foundation of our political system relies on a strong opposition party keeping the Govt in check and I wouldn't be surprised if the three main opposition parties will have less than 25% of seats between them.
I think she's been very clever here.
tsubaki
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How? To do what the PLP want would result in less opposition, not more.
Why can't David Milliband just come back on the scene 
neil999
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Why can't David Milliband just come back on the scene
he'd need a seat to compete in first..
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