Current Affairs 2017 General Election
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This is what bothers me so much about the Labour proposals tbh. I dug out some stats prior to the vote (or just after, one or the other) on the per capita spending in various departments, from health to welfare, and they were all considerably higher than in the mid 2000s. Yet if you listen to the rhetoric, it was all about how austerity was crippling the country, devastating public services and so on, which if that was the case then things must have been really bad in the mid 2000s when spending per capita was so much less, yet I don't recall such accusations being made at the time.
Which leads me to the point that spending money better (or differently at least) is something I have no qualms with, but that seldom seems to be on the agenda, and certainly wasn't with Labour. Instead, it was all about spending a whole lot more money, and what's more it would in all likelihood be less in the high-growth sectors you mentioned previously but in the low-growth sectors.
I've no doubt Corbyn is an honourable man who means well, but his sums are done by McDonnell who's an unabashed communist. It would be an utter disaster.
Yes, I saw that in your stats from above, and said it's quite possible we've taken a haircut to preserve jobs, whereas the French labour market is not as flexible and so unemployment has gone up considerably.
I'm not a huge fan of McDonnell, but he's by no means a 'unabashed communist'.
When I was a bit younger, I was fortunate enough to be invited to a group of young socialist Labour party members where John gave a impassioned speech about the merits of democracy and how it has empowered the working classes. Like myself, he believes that Marx was correct in that we'll see a revolution - and that the revolution will come through peaceful democratic transition.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Revolution about what?
The gross levels of inequality will get worse with the advent of widespread automation.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
So the same argument the Luddites used in about 1840?
Which was met with the radical changes presiding from the advent of Chartism.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Indeed it was.
But the jury is still out on the actual causation of one and the other. In fact, you could argue that the Corn Laws of 1834 (?) were a more vibrant bolt to the changes that occurred.
But either way, imo, a revolution that some seem to crave, will not be sparked by automation. Its far too advanced in its impact over 30 plus years for anyone other than students of it to actually cause any angst.
John Redwood is now a signed up member of the Corbynistas, 'we have enough austerity'. Mind he did qualify it that he was worried about the schools and social care in his area. I believe he was last seen looking for the 'magic money tree'.
Mind he performed better that the buffoon Johnson, who was all over the place when asked about 'burning injustices - courts treating black people worse than whites'. 'Mental health care' - Johnson further lost the plot and was called out by Eddie Mair.
Election in the Autumn as this 'government' wont last and will find it very difficult to balance the books without Redwoods magic money tree.
Mind he performed better that the buffoon Johnson, who was all over the place when asked about 'burning injustices - courts treating black people worse than whites'. 'Mental health care' - Johnson further lost the plot and was called out by Eddie Mair.
Election in the Autumn as this 'government' wont last and will find it very difficult to balance the books without Redwoods magic money tree.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Good grief. Why on earth do politicians do media interviews with seemingly no preparation whatsoever. It's utterly amateurish. Bloody joke the lot of them.
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
In somewhat familiar fashion, football clubs fail to give any kind of media training to their star players and they then have little or no idea whatsoever of how to give a non-answer. Amateurish is an understatement.
It still baffles me as to why an allegedly intelligent Theresa May would appoint that oaf Johnson to such a high profile role of Foreign Secretary in the first place, it's got to be one of the most bizarre ministerial appointments ever made.
Donald Twain
Vide cor meum
Is anyone surprised by this ? Bunch of bluff merchants who think they have a god given right to power despite there being nothing behind it ! May and Boris that's who people voted in , as I say heads need examining!
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