Current Affairs 2017 General Election

2017 general election

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 24 6.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 264 71.0%

  • Tories

    Votes: 41 11.0%

  • Cheese on the ballot paper

    Votes: 35 9.4%

  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Total voters
    372
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Clint Planet said:
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This will be the 4th national vote in the last 7 years where you have been on the losing side, now that is consistency.......
 
Tubey said:
It's a well known psychological ploy.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/minds-business/to-be-more-persuasive-repeat-yourself.html

It'll work too, because by saying "strong and stable" over and over again, without deviation, you're showing consistency, which is in itself "strong and stable".

She wants to be boring; that's her whole point. Dull but dependable. That's the mindset she wants the voters to have on her.

It means that when Labour do something utterly stupid, which given McDonnell, Thornberry, Abbott and Corbyn are at the heart of Labour currently means you won't have to go searching for stupid things, then by contrast the Tories look calm and rational.

You may dislike the tactic, but it's why she's going to win by a landslide. She doesn't need to campaign with style or even substance - she just has to make few mistakes.
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Not that I'd ever suggest taking a leaf out of the tories book but would "champions league champions league" work?
 
Bruce Wayne said:
I know, you were suggesting we have a bias media, but the fact remains that both of the two main parties made a pigs ear of stuff yesterday, just one got more attention than the other. It doesn't exactly make the choice any better.
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No, but it would certainly allow for a more informed choice and, in the long run, would drive up expected standards of conduct, you would hope.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
I know, you were suggesting we have a bias media, but the fact remains that both of the two main parties made a pigs ear of stuff yesterday, just one got more attention than the other. It doesn't exactly make the choice any better.
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My view (being a lover of Icke-ian conspiracy theories) is that the media obsession with the trivial (Abbotts figures or Mays chip eating) is a way of silencing debate on the real issues of what is really happening in the country and the world and not considering alternative economic or political systems.

That said did the media criticise May's uncomfortable chip eating as much as they did Miliband's bacon sandwich eating in the last election?
 
JonS said:
My view (being a lover of Icke-ian conspiracy theories) is that the media obsession with the trivial (Abbotts figures or Mays chip eating) is a way of silencing debate on the real issues of what is really happening in the country and the world and not considering alternative economic or political systems.

That said did the media criticise May's uncomfortable chip eating as much as they did Miliband's bacon sandwich eating in the last election?
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To be honest, I suspect it's more that they know trivial and controversial sell. I mean there's a guy from Liverpool Uni that did some excellent analyses on Brexit leading up to the election, but that kind of thing would never make it onto television. The big media outlets get to be big by appealing to a mass audience. If people don't understand you, they won't buy you.

No one's really interested in the nuts and bolts of policing and how it can be funded, but being able to chortle/gasp at a lady mucking up her lines appeals to a broad audience.

Of course that's not ideal, but it's one of the follies of a democratic system that relies upon the media to inform voters. It's really not very surprising that most are rather uninformed.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
To be honest, I suspect it's more that they know trivial and controversial sell. I mean there's a guy from Liverpool Uni that did some excellent analyses on Brexit leading up to the election, but that kind of thing would never make it onto television. The big media outlets get to be big by appealing to a mass audience. If people don't understand you, they won't buy you.

No one's really interested in the nuts and bolts of policing and how it can be funded, but being able to chortle/gasp at a lady mucking up her lines appeals to a broad audience.

Of course that's not ideal, but it's one of the follies of a democratic system that relies upon the media to inform voters. It's really not very surprising that most are rather uninformed.
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That's probably why you voted Remain...... ;)
 
I see one Kelvin MacKenzie has intervened in the election:

The tabloid's former editor who is currently suspended from the newspaper over claims he made "racist" comments about Everton footballer Ross Barkley, was asked what headline he would like to see if he was still in charge.

“I think the fake news headline that would give this country the most joy would be ‘Jeremy Corbyn Knifed to Death by an Asylum Seeker.’,” he told The New York Times.

The next morning he reportedly messaged his interviewer Katrin Bennhold and asked her to tone it down to "Jeremy Corbyn Defrauded by Asylum Seeker."
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