Current Affairs 2017 General Election

[Clint Planet]

Education spending in 2000: £42.69bn
PISA results in 2000: Maths 9th; Science 5th; English 8th

Education spending in 2015: £85.75bn
PISA results in 2015: Maths 27th; Science 15th; English 22nd

I hope we kept the receipt if that's what doubling spending does.

There are so many other factors in play that such comparisons are meaningless.

Do you really think these swingeing cuts will improve standards, Bruce?

 

[Tubey]

May was truly awful on Marr. It's depressing - a competent Labour and she would be there for the taking.

 

[orchard]

May was truly awful on Marr. It's depressing - a competent Labour and she would be there for the taking.

She is there for the taking.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There are so many other factors in play that such comparisons are meaningless.

Do you really think these swingeing cuts will improve standards, Bruce?

I don't think money is the only factor in educational attainment, so just as spending more doesn't guarantee improvement, nor does spending less guarantee decline (and it has to be said that in absolute terms, money is going up).

 

[The binman chronicles]

May was truly awful on Marr. It's depressing - a competent Labour and she would be there for the taking.

She makes past Tory misfits Michael Howard, William Hauge and Iain Duncan Smith look like Winston Churchill. All the charisma and dynamism of a bolied egg.

 

[Clint Planet]

May was truly awful on Marr. It's depressing - a competent Labour and she would be there for the taking.

Corbyn has been very impressive so far; May has no substance at all. She is a charmless chancer.

 

[Clint Planet]

(and it has to be said that in absolute terms, money is going up).

Tell that to the headteachers like my own who are currently agonising over how best to handle the impending savage cuts.

 

[tsubaki]

I don't think money is the only factor in educational attainment, so just as spending more doesn't guarantee improvement, nor does spending less guarantee decline (and it has to be said that in absolute terms, money is going up).

Which comes back to the point earlier about what the money is being spent on. At present its free schools and the PFI bill. Get rid of those and you could probably spend more money on reducing class sizes, retaining teachers and doing other things that are much more likely to improve outcomes than paying Toby Young a fortune is.

 

[Clint Planet]

Free Schools are a disaster, predictably enough.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Free Schools are a disaster, predictably enough.

Every single one?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Tell that to the headteachers like my own who are currently agonising over how best to handle the impending savage cuts.

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/8937

"Primary school spending per pupil has increased by 114% in real terms and secondary school spending per pupil by 90%." (that's since 1990 btw)

The latest cuts are the first real-term cut in spending per pupil for the best part of 20 years. To term them as savage given such plenty for so long would be classed by many of who have had to cut their cloth far more for far longer as being wrong.

 

[Clint Planet]

Every single one?

Far too many of them. Unlike you, I don't approve gambling with children's futures for crackpot ideological reasons.

 

[tsubaki]

Every single one?

Young's WLFS isn't - though given the amount of money they have had it should not be that much of a surprise.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Far too many of them. Unlike you, I don't approve gambling with children's futures for crackpot ideological reasons.

Experimentation is a fundamental part of learning.

 

[Clint Planet]

Experimentation is a fundamental part of learning.

What a puerile thing to say. I'm all for children experimenting in their education. To experiment with their education, however, does them a great disservice.