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WuTangToffee
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Or we can spend money we don't have and wonder "what if" for another 18 years.
njligernj
Player Valuation: £15m
LOL. You brought it up in the first place (and second place and third place and fourth place ... you won't stop going on about it). You are walking naked down the high-street angrily accusing people of being perverts for looking at a naked person. Either tell us what you think you know or give it a rest.
And the 2013 GOT award for Most Helpful Forum Member goes to.....
not D410
What he said...
Essex Blue
Player Valuation: £10m
The saddest thing of all is that there will be a lot of Evertonians who end up celebrating 'almost' finishing 4th, and they will then ask you whether you remember 'almost' being relegated 14 years ago, as if that represents a yardstick for Everton Football Club.
How does Everton nothave the money? the television money is guaranteed to come in. I know it may be chickens/hatch scenario but that is money the team WILL have.
Christiffa25
Player Valuation: £35m
And then on hearing the relegation quote there will be a selection of evertonians who ask "do you remember us being boss and winning titles" like that is the yardstick for Everton football club.
Times change roll with it. Close to fourth IS better than what has gone before but worse than what we had previously.
toffee66
Player Valuation: £10m
For everyone giving D410 a hard time his basic point is right. There are plenty of available sources out there that assess our credit worthiness and deem it junk/don't lend
There is a 2010/11 creditsafe report on toffeeweb (I can't link but you can go find it). This is a year out of date but our score was 12 and the overall risk rating horrid. There is a full report with commentary online there. The latest accounts are worse so this will only have got worse. It costs typically £10-20 to access this kind of data online and there are many sources with Experian one of the best known if people want to do more research.
The basic point made though is true. We are NOT credit worthy meaning we can only access unconventional and very expensive sources for new/incremental borrowing and this is a risk that we cannot justify as the new tv deal is in effect already spent (covering current wage bill and new contract extensions) and the inherent risk around future player sales means nobody will accept that as security.
I'm NOT a big fan of BK but I have to believe that he would find a way to give Moyes money now IF there was any viable option open to him. We simply don't have any viable options...which is, at least in my view, something that has to be laid squarely at the door of BK and the rest of the Board but that is another argument altogether.
There is a 2010/11 creditsafe report on toffeeweb (I can't link but you can go find it). This is a year out of date but our score was 12 and the overall risk rating horrid. There is a full report with commentary online there. The latest accounts are worse so this will only have got worse. It costs typically £10-20 to access this kind of data online and there are many sources with Experian one of the best known if people want to do more research.
The basic point made though is true. We are NOT credit worthy meaning we can only access unconventional and very expensive sources for new/incremental borrowing and this is a risk that we cannot justify as the new tv deal is in effect already spent (covering current wage bill and new contract extensions) and the inherent risk around future player sales means nobody will accept that as security.
I'm NOT a big fan of BK but I have to believe that he would find a way to give Moyes money now IF there was any viable option open to him. We simply don't have any viable options...which is, at least in my view, something that has to be laid squarely at the door of BK and the rest of the Board but that is another argument altogether.
neonleon
Player Valuation: £35m
Not been on the forum for ages. Is the general consensus that high profile expensive midfield signings, reported in the press are us preparing for life post-fellaini (i.e if someone triggers a rumoured release clause) ?
I wouldn't want to lose Fellaini half-way through the season (if at all) myself.
Mirallas and Gibbo back and we've got what we need to take us through. Maybe try and get that young striker from Milan on loan.
Obviously if we pull money from somewhere signings would be nice.
I wouldn't want to lose Fellaini half-way through the season (if at all) myself.
Mirallas and Gibbo back and we've got what we need to take us through. Maybe try and get that young striker from Milan on loan.
Obviously if we pull money from somewhere signings would be nice.
According to him we tried just that and he turned us down to fight for his place at milan. Started at the weekend too.
"Caution - Credit at your discreation" ...seen our credit limit value? Nothing to worry about then.
cheers, fella. Everyone wants to be spoonfed....twitter has a lot to answer for. oh well back to flights of fancy and the transfer thread.
sexualchocolate
Player Valuation: £6m
Brian Fantana - quote
'They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time'.
tasslehoff
Player Valuation: £10m
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