New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium


Does anyone know where that piece is from the Wolves fan about our innovative way of funding the stadium and how we will become a European power?
 
They need to be careful with Sandhills or someone will end up on the track in front of a train. It’s very small for the numbers you’d expect to be rushing there after a game.
Be interesting to see what ideas get floated about.
When you leave The Emirates there’s a queue to get in to Arsenal tube station and people are allowed in in safe numbers and it’s similar at Seven Sisters tube after Spurs. I imagine there’d be something similar at Sandhills if necessary , I can’t remember who supervises the queues in London.
 
There will be crowds regardless coming away from the ground.

Even a place like the Allianz in Munich has its issues. Waiting to get in the train station directly outside the ground had terrible crushes, my two kids were about 12 and 11 and were terrified and we have to get out of the Street End at full time.
 
There will be crowds regardless coming away from the ground.

Even a place like the Allianz in Munich has its issues. Waiting to get in the train station directly outside the ground had terrible crushes, my two kids were about 12 and 11 and were terrified and we have to get out of the Street End at full time.

Hopefully there will be enough in and around the ground for people to linger longer than normal. That way the crowds will disperse more slowly over time.
 

When you leave The Emirates there’s a queue to get in to Arsenal tube station and people are allowed in in safe numbers and it’s similar at Seven Sisters tube after Spurs. I imagine there’d be something similar at Sandhills if necessary , I can’t remember who supervises the queues in London.
"You're not coming in mate"
 
When you leave The Emirates there’s a queue to get in to Arsenal tube station and people are allowed in in safe numbers and it’s similar at Seven Sisters tube after Spurs. I imagine there’d be something similar at Sandhills if necessary , I can’t remember who supervises the queues in London.
It would be London Transport or Transport for London.
The Underground organisation have a huge amount of experience supervising such things, they've been doing it for decades.
 

Yes.... in terms of rail it's approximately 30% better than Goodison for direct services and capacity at Kirkdale, but exactly the same if you currently use soccerbus from Sandhills where the footfall is actually shared across those 2 stations, but the point is, despite that relative convenience of a mass transit system such a small proportion of our fanbase actually use it.

In terms of buses, GP is better served (at present) with routes right up to the front door on walton Lane, Priory Rd and multiple services on County Rd and Queens Drive too. Yet, again despite all this only 40% of match goers use public transport and we're being told that those proportions have to be at least reversed at BMD if we're to avoid grid lock congestion and for the site to work.

Hopefully BMD will prompt greater use of the train, but at only 12-18k seats per hr, and probably reduced parking catchment area too, I think there'll need to be further infrastructure changes to achieve their projected access/dispersal targets.

Is it just me, or are you just not acknowledging the city centre stations and the pull that travelling via the city centre will have for many, many fans?

I'll repeat. Sandhills is the same distance to BMD as Goodison is to Kirkdale. You know what else are similar distances? Goodison to Sandhills and BMD to Old Hall Street.

We're effectively going from having Bank Hall, Kirkdale and Sandhills as the stations that get used, to it being Sandhills, James Street and Old Hall Street/Moorfields.

Good old Bank Hall is also a viable option, and will be my station of choice for the journey to the ground. I'll head into town afterwards.

You say "Yes.... in terms of rail it's approximately 30% better than Goodison for direct services and capacity at Kirkdale"

Is Old Hall Street not 100% better then?

Again, I don't think you're taking into account the pull of the city centre and the knock-on effect it has upon what mode of transport people use. I know quite a few people who only use public transport to go to town.

I reckon the pull of the city centre will see more of our fans using public transport.

You know what else town has? A good bus station.
 
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Is it just me, or are you just not acknowledging the city centre stations and the pull that travelling via the city centre will have for many, many fans?

I'll repeat. Sandhills is the same distance to BMD as Goodison is to Kirkdale. You know what else are similar distances? Goodison to Sandhills and BMD to Old Hall Street.

We're effectively going from having Bank Hall, Kirkdale and Sandhills as the stations that get used, to it being Sandhills, James Street and Old Hall Street/Moorfields.

Good old Bank Hall is also a viable option, and will be my station of choice for the journey to the ground. I'll head into town afterwards.

You say "Yes.... in terms of rail it's approximately 30% better than Goodison for direct services and capacity at Kirkdale"

Is Old Hall Street not 100% better then?

Again, I don't think you're taking into account the pull of the city centre and the knock-on effect it has upon what mode of transport people use. I know quite a few people who only use public transport to go to town.

I reckon the pull of the city centre will see more of our fans using public transport.

You know what else town has? A good bus station.
 

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