Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Barnfred 55]

Sorry for source but quickest one I could find.

COVID: UK variant up to 100 percent more deadly, study finds

Research reveals the B.1.1.7 strain of the novel coronavirus is significantly more lethal than earlier variants.

www.aljazeera.com

Just don't buy it personally, think it'd need more longitudinal study to be verifiable IMO.

Yeah I agree.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Don’t do it to yourself mate. lol

I know I know.

 

[roydo]

I know I know.

Been busy in Cornwall this weekend? Relative to normal.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Ferguson was part of SAGE and his advice along with many others was we faced the loss of hundreds of thousands unless a lockdown was called...which was called, just way too late.

He went for the economy first and that's why we ended up here with the worst fatality rate of 126,000 lives lost.

Funny you should say that. because Professor Ferguson was, at the time, the person heading up the Imperial College London statistics team that was advising SAGE we were 4/6 weeks behind Italy. Now, I don't know who specifically was at fault for not realising that the data they were interpreting was 2 weeks old, but at least 1 person on Ferguson's team must have been involved in the cock up wouldn't you agree. Ferguson, who incidentally thought it was absolutely fine for him to break lockdown rules personally, was head of that team so should take full responsibility. Right?

I'm not having a go at our scientists here. Mistakes happen and I've made enough of them myself over the years. I'm just pointing out that many people have made mistakes and incorrect judgment calls during this pandemic.

 

[COYBL25]

I know I know.

Just agree, hoist the red flag and subscribe to the Morning Star for life.

It’s the only way out of the vortex.

 

[davek]

You think the problems in France are just down to to them mucking around with the vaccines?

I was asked for a bit of quid pro quo, not an exhaustive comparative study.

 

[Goat]

I was asked for a bit of quid pro quo, not an exhaustive comparative study.

Do you still hear the lambs David?

 

[roydo]

I was asked for a bit of quid pro quo, not an exhaustive comparative study.

Macron made Johnson look competent.

Then the vaccine stuff happened.

That takes some doing.

 

[COYBL25]

Do you still hear the lambs David?

lol lol

Bravo

 

[davek]

Funny you should say that. because Professor Ferguson was, at the time, the person heading up the Imperial College London statistics team that was advising SAGE we were 4/6 weeks behind Italy. Now, I don't know who specifically was at fault for not realising that the data they were interpreting was 2 weeks old, but at least 1 person on Ferguson's team must have been involved in the cock up wouldn't you agree. Ferguson, who incidentally thought it was absolutely fine for him to break lockdown rules personally, was head of that team so should take full responsibility. Right?

I'm not having a go at our scientists here. Mistakes happen and I've made enough of them myself over the years. I'm just pointing out that many people have made mistakes and incorrect judgment calls during this pandemic.

Are we agreed here that the vast amount of advice that the UK scientific community has handed to government has been ignored on the crucial issues of lockdown - both in Feb/March last year and later in the autumn?

The utter blizzard of BS that some peopke will throw at the issue of blame and responsibilty is mind boggling.

let me spell it out to you really clearly:

IF YOU'RE THE PM OF THE UK AND A HUMAN CATASTROPHE OCCURS ON THESE ISLANDS ON YOUR WATCH, THEN YOU HAVE FAILED AND, THEREFORE, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.

It really is THAT simple.

But dont let me stop you continuing to deflect.

 

[davek]

Macron made Johnson look competent.

Then the vaccine stuff happened.

That takes some doing.

Do me a 'kin favour.

126,000 people dead here. Please dont ever use the word 'competent' in relation to that nobhead. He is up to his elbows in blood.

 

[davek]

Do you still hear the lambs David?

I really would have thought the gaslighting was beyond you.

 

[roydo]

Do me a 'kin favour.

126,000 people dead here. Please dont ever use the word 'competent' in relation to that nobhead. He is up to his elbows in blood.

Like I said, that does take some doing.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Been busy in Cornwall this weekend? Relative to normal.

Not down by me mate but I'm down by the Helford which is another 90 minutes travelling from Plymouth. If anybody was travelling to Cornwall I'd have expected them to stay closer to the Devon border. The weather has been great too. Yesterday we were at the beach and I've spent all afternoon today in the back garden.

Nowhere is open, and there's no overnight stay allowed either, so I'm pretty sure most people have stayed away. Different from next week though. Self catering is allowed from the 12th and, from what I understand, a lot of it is already booked. My missus works for the National Trust and they have loads of self catering cottages down here, and they're pretty much booked up until Christmas. If that's anything to go by it's going to be a busy year.

Me and the missus were both 60 during this lockdown and my sister gave us a voucher for Rick Steins restaurant. We tried to book in for our Anniversary in June (this was about a month ago so not long after the road map was announced) and, for dinner, there was literally nothing available until September. We had to book into the St Petrocs hotel restaurant (also owned by Rick Stein) which had late sitting available on that day. But we wanted to stay overnight because Padstow is about an hours drive away. We literally couldn't get a room in Padstow for that night, a Sunday. We managed to get a room the following night at a pub in the village that does B&B, and a table in St Petrocs at the slightly more convenient time of 8.45pm.

Think it's going to be mad mate. But the business's down here need it.

 

[roydo]

Not down by me mate but I'm down by the Helford which is another 90 minutes travelling from Plymouth. If anybody was travelling to Cornwall I'd have expected them to stay closer to the Devon border. The weather has been great too. Yesterday we were at the beach and I've spent all afternoon today in the back garden.

Nowhere is open, and there's no overnight stay allowed either, so I'm pretty sure most people have stayed away. Different from next week though. Self catering is allowed from the 12th and, from what I understand, a lot of it is already booked. My missus works for the National Trust and they have loads of self catering cottages down here, and they're pretty much booked up until Christmas. If that's anything to go by it's going to be a busy year.

Me and the missus were both 60 during this lockdown and my sister gave us a voucher for Rick Steins restaurant. We tried to book in for our Anniversary in June (this was about a month ago so not long after the road map was announced) and, for dinner, there was literally nothing available until September. We had to book into the St Petrocs hotel restaurant (also owned by Rick Stein) which had late sitting available on that day. But we wanted to stay overnight because Padstow is about an hours drive away. We literally couldn't get a room in Padstow for that night, a Sunday. We managed to get a room the following night at a pub in the village that does B&B, and a table in St Petrocs at the slightly more convenient time of 8.45pm.

Think it's going to be mad mate. But the business's down here need it.

lol

Forgot nowt is open ffs!