Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Barnfred 55 said:
Not down by me mate but I'm down by the Helford which is another 90 minutes travelling from Plymouth. If anybody was travelling to Cornwall I'd have expected them to stay closer to the Devon border. The weather has been great too. Yesterday we were at the beach and I've spent all afternoon today in the back garden.

Nowhere is open, and there's no overnight stay allowed either, so I'm pretty sure most people have stayed away. Different from next week though. Self catering is allowed from the 12th and, from what I understand, a lot of it is already booked. My missus works for the National Trust and they have loads of self catering cottages down here, and they're pretty much booked up until Christmas. If that's anything to go by it's going to be a busy year.

Me and the missus were both 60 during this lockdown and my sister gave us a voucher for Rick Steins restaurant. We tried to book in for our Anniversary in June (this was about a month ago so not long after the road map was announced) and, for dinner, there was literally nothing available until September. We had to book into the St Petrocs hotel restaurant (also owned by Rick Stein) which had late sitting available on that day. But we wanted to stay overnight because Padstow is about an hours drive away. We literally couldn't get a room in Padstow for that night, a Sunday. We managed to get a room the following night at a pub in the village that does B&B, and a table in St Petrocs at the slightly more convenient time of 8.45pm.

Think it's going to be mad mate. But the business's down here need it.
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I phoned the caravan site we normally stay at in Polzeath, just on the off chance - fully booked until they shut in October, with a stand by list !!!

Ps - pre kids, we ate over priced muck at Steins St Petroc gaff.

The over priced muck was beautiful and it’s a lovely place too.
 
davek said:
Are we agreed here that the vast amount of advice that the UK scientific community has handed to government has been ignored on the crucial issues of lockdown - both in Feb/March last year and later in the autumn?

The utter blizzard of BS that some peopke will throw at the issue of blame and responsibilty is mind boggling.

let me spell it out to you really clearly:

IF YOU'RE THE PM OF THE UK AND A HUMAN CATASTROPHE OCCURS ON THESE ISLANDS ON YOUR WATCH, THEN YOU HAVE FAILED AND, THEREFORE, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.

It really is THAT simple.

But dont let me stop you continuing to deflect.
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No Dave we aren't agreed. The government pretty much took the advice of the scientists on everything for the first few months. It's all in the SAGE minutes Dave.

Since the summer I agree that they haven't. They got a lot wrong in the first following advice. And then they got a lot wrong later when not following advice.

You could say that the scientists learned form their mistakes but the government didn't.

To be honest, I gave the Government a lot of leeway to start off with. They were getting major decisions wrong, but I supported them because they were following the scientific advice and we were still learning about the virus so I accepted that mistakes were to some extent expected and, whilst they cost lives, at least we could learn from them. That ended with the Cummings debacle and subsequently moving away from the science.

But they have done well with the vaccine rollout and I'm also supporting them with the road map out of lockdown.
 
davek said:
Do me a 'kin favour.

126,000 people dead here. Please dont ever use the word 'competent' in relation to that nobhead. He is up to his elbows in blood.
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Whilst I agree you haven't commented on his or his parties role on the vaccine programme.

You absolve them of contributing to the success of that but label them murderers for there inaction elsewhere?

Its why it's a struggle to take you serious.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
No Dave we aren't agreed. The government pretty much took the advice of the scientists on everything for the first few months. It's all in the SAGE minutes Dave.

Since the summer I agree that they haven't. They got a lot wrong in the first following advice. And then they got a lot wrong later when not following advice.

You could say that the scientists learned form their mistakes but the government didn't.

To be honest, I gave the Government a lot of leeway to start off with. They were getting major decisions wrong, but I supported them because they were following the scientific advice and we were still learning about the virus so I accepted that mistakes were to some extent expected and, whilst they cost lives, at least we could learn from them. That ended with the Cummings debacle and subsequently moving away from the science.

But they have done well with the vaccine rollout and I'm also supporting them with the road map out of lockdown.
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Who's idea was it to sing 'happy birthday' when washing your hands?
 
jinkyali said:
Whilst I agree you haven't commented on his or his parties role on the vaccine programme.

You absolve them of contributing to the success of that but label them murderers for there inaction elsewhere?

Its why it's a struggle to take you serious.
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Tbf I don't think governments - any government - should be congratulated for doing its basic job which is protecting people.

They cocked up massively. Fortunately, the vaccine roll out is going really very well and is showing just how great it is to have a system like the NHS in place.

All of the above can be true and nobody needs to be called a murderer or also given a pat on the back for doing what needed to be done to get us out of this mess.
 
I remember watching a documentary, early last year, about the flu pandemic of 1918.

Credits at the end stated that a future global pandemic was due again.

Little did we know.
 
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