They have Buttigieg losing ground. Odd
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They have Buttigieg losing ground. Odd
The Morning Consult and the YouGov polls also show some mild softening - perhaps Harris sucked all the oxgen out of the debate/post debate impressions?
His fundraising haul will help if it is just a temporary reaction.
Surprised Castro isn't higher. Thought he had a good showing at the debates.
Still a long way to Iowa and debate poll bounces often fade after a couple of weeks. But if Harris can build on her momentum in Iowa and do well in its majority white primary that is a hell of a springboard to the more diverse Southern states as Obama proved in 2008.
Of the early states Iowa was also meant to be one of Sanders best chances to win given Clinton only eeked out a sliver of a victory in 2016. Although it is just one poll, being 4th and in single digits isn’t an encouraging sign for a campaign that was averaging around 20 earlier in the year.
Will be very interesting to see the next Selzer poll of Iowa, she has the best prediction record for the state.
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In a new Suffolk University/USA TODAY Poll, Biden continues to lead the field, backed by 24% of those who say they are likely to attend the Democratic caucuses in Iowa that open the presidential contests next year. But Harris has jumped to second place, at 16%, leapfrogging over Sanders, whose support sagged to single digits. At 9%, he finished fourth, behind Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 13%.
The new standings are hardly set in stone. Six of 10 say they might change their mind before the caucuses; just one in four say their minds are firmly made up. The second set of debates, scheduled for the end of the month in Detroit, could upend the horserace again. That said, the new survey has some sobering findings for Biden, a familiar figure in the state. His level of support didn't change from the Des Moines Register/Mediacom/CNN Iowa Poll taken last month. But among those who watched him debate, more than four in 10 said he did worse than they had expected. And among all of those surveyed, he was the second choice of just 11%, behind three of his rivals.
Of the early states Iowa was also meant to be one of Sanders best chances to win given Clinton only eeked out a sliver of a victory in 2016. Although it is just one poll, being 4th and in single digits isn’t an encouraging sign for a campaign that was averaging around 20 earlier in the year.
Will be very interesting to see the next Selzer poll of Iowa, she has the best prediction record for the state.
Poll: Kamala Harris surges in Iowa as Bernie Sanders suffers after debate
A new Suffolk University/USA TODAY Poll in Iowa, which holds the opening caucuses, shows Kamala Harris surging as Bernie Sanders struggles after the debate.
www.usatoday.com
The new standings are hardly set in stone. Six of 10 say they might change their mind before the caucuses; just one in four say their minds are firmly made up. The second set of debates, scheduled for the end of the month in Detroit, could upend the horserace again. That said, the new survey has some sobering findings for Biden, a familiar figure in the state. His level of support didn't change from the Des Moines Register/Mediacom/CNN Iowa Poll taken last month. But among those who watched him debate, more than four in 10 said he did worse than they had expected. And among all of those surveyed, he was the second choice of just 11%, behind three of his rivals.
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Looking at the whole
given they have (and started out with) basically 100% name recognition, it’s hard to see either Biden or Sanders’ numbers doing any better than staying static, and most likely declining as people learn more about the other candidates.Still a long way to Iowa and debate poll bounces often fade after a couple of weeks. But if Harris can build on her momentum in Iowa and do well in its majority white primary that is a hell of a springboard to the more diverse Southern states as Obama proved in 2008.
Of the early states Iowa was also meant to be one of Sanders best chances to win given Clinton only eeked out a sliver of a victory in 2016. Although it is just one poll, being 4th and in single digits isn’t an encouraging sign for a campaign that was averaging around 20 earlier in the year.
Will be very interesting to see the next Selzer poll of Iowa, she has the best prediction record for the state.
In a new Suffolk University/USA TODAY Poll, Biden continues to lead the field, backed by 24% of those who say they are likely to attend the Democratic caucuses in Iowa that open the presidential contests next year. But Harris has jumped to second place, at 16%, leapfrogging over Sanders, whose support sagged to single digits. At 9%, he finished fourth, behind Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 13%.Poll: Kamala Harris surges in Iowa as Bernie Sanders suffers after debate
A new Suffolk University/USA TODAY Poll in Iowa, which holds the opening caucuses, shows Kamala Harris surging as Bernie Sanders struggles after the debate.
The new standings are hardly set in stone. Six of 10 say they might change their mind before the caucuses; just one in four say their minds are firmly made up. The second set of debates, scheduled for the end of the month in Detroit, could upend the horserace again. That said, the new survey has some sobering findings for Biden, a familiar figure in the state. His level of support didn't change from the Des Moines Register/Mediacom/CNN Iowa Poll taken last month. But among those who watched him debate, more than four in 10 said he did worse than they had expected. And among all of those surveyed, he was the second choice of just 11%, behind three of his rivals.
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Still a long way to Iowa and debate poll bounces often fade after a couple of weeks. But if Harris can build on her momentum in Iowa and do well in its majority white primary that is a hell of a springboard to the more diverse Southern states as Obama proved in 2008.
Of the early states Iowa was also meant to be one of Sanders best chances to win given Clinton only eeked out a sliver of a victory in 2016. Although it is just one poll, being 4th and in single digits isn’t an encouraging sign for a campaign that was averaging around 20 earlier in the year.
Will be very interesting to see the next Selzer poll of Iowa, she has the best prediction record for the state.
In a new Suffolk University/USA TODAY Poll, Biden continues to lead the field, backed by 24% of those who say they are likely to attend the Democratic caucuses in Iowa that open the presidential contests next year. But Harris has jumped to second place, at 16%, leapfrogging over Sanders, whose support sagged to single digits. At 9%, he finished fourth, behind Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 13%.Poll: Kamala Harris surges in Iowa as Bernie Sanders suffers after debate
A new Suffolk University/USA TODAY Poll in Iowa, which holds the opening caucuses, shows Kamala Harris surging as Bernie Sanders struggles after the debate.
The new standings are hardly set in stone. Six of 10 say they might change their mind before the caucuses; just one in four say their minds are firmly made up. The second set of debates, scheduled for the end of the month in Detroit, could upend the horserace again. That said, the new survey has some sobering findings for Biden, a familiar figure in the state. His level of support didn't change from the Des Moines Register/Mediacom/CNN Iowa Poll taken last month. But among those who watched him debate, more than four in 10 said he did worse than they had expected. And among all of those surveyed, he was the second choice of just 11%, behind three of his rivals.
It is sad to say this, but I think Bernie is doomed - and partly by his own hand. His promotion of progressive politics and its recent electoral success has meant that its no longer just him representing it; people look to (at) AOC and that lot now whilst Warren provides the Diet version of progressivism. Add that to this being an actual race rather than one self (and pre-) appointed candidate and its ruined his chances.
Not surprised at Harris though, she probably ticks almost all of the boxes on the list of things that the top of the Democrats think will be needed to beat Trump. If she doesn't mess up during the next few months she will probably stroll to the nomination.
The minute he claimed he would be able to get rid of private insurance and make it all run federally ruined him. It doesn't even sound like he has a plan.
It's a tall ask if possible at all. It would be easier to work with them and introduce a system that if you can't get private insurance then the government's run system would be there.
But calling the insurance companies evil, a group that have a lot of pull and who hire thousands of Americans is shortsighted.
That's why mayor petes solution which is being echoed by experts was the most realistic.
But I agree with you they are all pretty much singing from the same hymn sheet with many of the issues.
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TBH I don't think its possible to have a two tier system like that - you either have what the US has now, or a national single insurance provider (like the French), or a state-run system like the NHS. Lets face it, if the single provider / nationalised system is cheaper and as/more comprehensive than the private firms then they are probably all going to the wall anyway.
Is the system in the UK not a two tiered system. If you want a fancy private room and to be seen immediately you get private insurance, right?
There's no way Bernie's system works here. There has to be a private option/market. Let the insurance companies fight it out for the private market. Let the government run a public insurance plan that is not for profit or beholden to shareholders.
As for Bernie, in 2016 he garnered huge support, not because of who he was but because of his policies and how different they were to Clintons. Now in 2019, his policies have been adopted by numerous candidates and his grumpy old man shtick doesn't work. All he'll do now is split the progressive vote and harm Warrens chances.
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Not really - if you want a fancy room and to be seen quickly then you go private, but theres a good chance the procedure will be done by an NHS doctor earning extra, possibly even in NHS facilities and if things go wrong you will go to an NHS hospital for life saving care. If you have an accident it will be the NHS that scoop you up and treat you as well. Its not two tier so much as one of them parasitic fish that swims around a larger fish pinching food.
TBH I think the French have a better system, or at least one that the US would find it more palatable to adopt.
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Don't forget each state can reject federal healthcare laws much like some of them resisted Obamacare.
A lot of states are in bed with healthcare companies especially the insurers and thats on both sides of the isle.
I honestly believe many of those candidates Harris and Warren included are talking out of both sides of their mouths.
So it will be interesting as it get's closer or if indeed one of them wins.
The healthcare industry are some of the largest lobbyists as well. Many of the companies have different branding but they all own shares in each other and have been accused in the past of working together and price fixing.
many of them use parts of the others group
For example UHG (United health Group) has Optum as it pharmacy provider. Aetna and several other groups use Optum too for certain items. Same goes for Optum and United healthcare.
Taking that industry down will be very difficult.
Look what happened when they didn't embrace Obamacare. That would have worked if they had worked with Obama. He when he spoke thought that they had his back. But when insurers in California refused to work with his administration it sent a message to the rest of them and it was business as usual. By doing the bare minimum it crippled the affordable care act.
I forgot to mention one thing in my other post above and that was the US is a lot different than France and the UK and even Canada though.
I reckon it's easier to introduce something into countries where the government has full control over the entire country and districts and cities don't have the ability to ignore it or vote it down.
The many states here can't even agree on the basic of things and the big industry have been taking advantage of that for many years including the healthcare/insurance companies.
Full disclosure since i moved the US i have worked and consulted on many things for many of those companies. I actually decided two years ago to not accept consultancy jobs from them anymore. It's soul draining watching how they control their people and buy their loyalty and yet pay them next to nothing and make them work long long hours. then have the audacity to overcharge for everything and hold meetings with their staff to high five the billions they made.
Wow, I was thinking you knew a whole lot about this stuff!
My wife is an NP and if it wasn't for her knowledge of the system, I'd be in trouble! I've no idea how someone with no connection to the industry navigates it.
We use the market place here in MA because we're both contractors but they screwed up the date of our sons birth. This led to the ins. company refusing to pay and the hospital demanding full fee from us (he was premie). It's all sorted now but thats thanks to my wifes knowledge of the system.
It's an absolute disaster. I've no idea how you even begin to handle it but making everything public could just lead to layers of bureaucratic incompetence, never mind the kick back to depriving people of the option to buy private insurance.
You're right about Warren and Harris speaking from both sides of their mouths, they are clearly and unnecessarily scared of the Sanders progressives.
That sucks glad you got it fixed. Funnily enough as i am a consultant i am seen as a contractor too haha! I was lucky though my wife's role covers both of us otherwise i would have had a headache too.
When i moved the US i had no idea about any of it haha! When i started doing projects for the different areas for the IT systems (mainly automated) you really have to learn the ins and outs.
I started out working directly for one of them (not going to say who) but then left to become a consultant with one of the companies we had worked with.
It was an eye opener. From talking to many of the leaders down to the people on the floor and in the cubicles its just mad how complicated it all is.
I would sit in meetings listening to guys talking about creating more jobs and then at the same time asking us to introduce systems to streamline workflow oh and not forgetting introducing robots in the pharmacy to effectively cut jobs.
If you ever go to meetings and events for these companies you will always see a local politician.
In Santa Ana many of them have their offices and im not talking about those in the same group but their competitors too. Right next door they are.
In Minnesota UHC and Optum have identical building down the street from each other. They parade them like new cars when they were built.
As a group (UHG) they have server farms and offices all over the world even though they do not service any other country insurance wise. It's the satellite office combined with fingers in many pots that has them do this.
When one of them gets a system then the other want it too.
It would be good to see the government take better control and offer insurance i am all for that. I just think like you mentioned how difficult it would be and as @tsubaki said it would be longer than two years.
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