Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

We can change our government lollollollollol Good one Pete. That's like your financial adviser saying you could win the lottery as a sound investment strategy.

We regularly change our government.....

 

[peteblue]

I would feel slightly more optimistic, incidentally, if the taking back of control that Brexiters so cherish would involve the Tories being kicked into oblivion for the unholy mess they've foisted on the country in the past five years, but I don't think that will happen at all. What a maddening state of affairs when such incompetence is seemingly rewarded.

Indeed. I think at the moment I would prefer to have another referendum, same as last time, immediately followed by a GE.....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We are not leaving the EU. Mays deal tied us in and any deal with Corbyn will tie us in further. We are not leaving, so be happy, we have overridden democracy and become more European as a result..........

The country has been damaged enormously by this shambles Pete. I don't think there's much cause for celebration even if Article 50 is revoked (as I would like). We haven't embarrassed ourselves on the international stage like this since Suez.

We regularly change our government.....

Well, firstly, we change in the sense of the duopoly that has dominated British politics for over a century. You're an experienced private sector man Pete, a two entity market aint much of a market, is it? Secondly, neither yours or my vote makes a blind bit of difference to any election result any more than you buying an iPhone influences Apple strategy.

 

[ijjysmith]

I notice we’ve still not left the EU.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I think the issue that you keep missing is that we can change our government, our government can change the Lords, either by making it an elected body or by appointing Lords. It is for the U.K. to decide. The U.K. cannot affect either the makeup of the EU parliament nor its officials......

I'm not missing that fact at all. There seems to be a pattern emerging with you Pete, where you completely misinterpret or ignore the point then answer in robust terms a different argument entirely of your own creation.

And I disagree that the UK cannot affect the makeup of European Parliament or it's officials, it's a soundbyte statement. There are European Elections and motions that can be made before EU parliament which the UK have previously made and had accepted. Without wanting to be pedantic, you can also, as we are doing, leave; which will affect it greatly.

 

[Jebus_lives]

It was the quality of debate I found refreshing, it even happens on here every now and again.........

Largely when you're absent

(I don't mean that Pete, although we completely disagree on much of Brexit, I think you make a useful contribution to this thread)

 

[tim cahill]

That's what Katya Adler said! For all the bluster from the EU... They are bricking it. Even talking about giving us an indefinite flexiabe extension

An extension is very different to a better deal.

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

I'm not missing that fact at all. There seems to be a pattern emerging with you Pete, where you completely misinterpret or ignore the point then answer in robust terms a different argument entirely of your own creation.

And I disagree that the UK cannot affect the makeup of European Parliament or it's officials, it's a soundbyte statement. There are European Elections and motions that can be made before EU parliament which the UK have previously made and had accepted. Without wanting to be pedantic, you can also, as we are doing, leave; which will affect it greatly.

Pure deadcattery Jeebs. Happens all the time.....

 

[Old Blue 2]

@peteblue @Joey66 @Old Blue 2

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[Fedlingen]

It's in german, but there are full english subtitles. Definitely worth a watch.

 

[Jebus_lives]

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To replace Ken Clarke, Anna Soubry, Theresa May........

 

[Jebus_lives]

Pure deadcattery Jeebs. Happens all the time.....

In other news, I'm quite like 'Jeebs'

 

[Fedlingen]

This should help the trade deal talks.

 

[Joey66]

I notice we’ve still not left the EU.

The extension will be now till November or December on LBC just before - The Brexit party will be launched officially by Nigel Farage he was interviewed he has many business candidates who just want OUT - here we go again in other words they will stand in MEP elections .........this year almost certain to take place unless a miracle happens ....
how many times can PM May bundle along its ridiculous........
Her deal is so bad we may as well stay in the EU ..........

 

[Joey66]

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? I take it we are just 3 of the 17.4 billion who voted OUT....