If I’m honest mate Tldr I’ve skimmed over it though.
No ones arsed about matip he’s terrible, no ones arsed about Liverpool either I was just replying to lads who brought Liverpool players into the debate.
I base my opinion on van dyke purely on the fact he walks straight into any defence in this league if you think otherwise then so be it, lads downplay the boys abilitly because he signed for them.
Just go and look at the van dyke thread on here the majority were jizzing in their kecks but he’s crap now apparently.
Back on topic I’m not overly arsed about being bummed by Besiktas and paying in excess of 25 million for a second rate striker.