Farhad Moshiri: Ronald Koeman Statement

[Zatara]

...he made the wrong move. He should have gone for pace and width...that's what you do to a team with 10 men: stretch them and get them going backwards. We put on two static central playing players.

Shambles.

Because Koeman has the tactical nous of Gary Megson.

 

[Lowste]

Fans like you are the problem. No hope just happy to be a fan regardless of the results. Not expecting us to go out and win the league in season one but he's had 3 transfer windows and can you say we've improved in that time? I'd say we definitely haven't with the loss of romelu

I think we have all had to be one of them fans in the past, simply because we had no financial muscle and we always tended to fight above our weight.
The difference now is we have a manager that has been given funds that should of been the platform for us to at least challenge the top 6.
What we have is a dire situation were i really see no change...and that scares me

 

[Sentinel]

What we have is a dire situation were i really see no change...and that scares me[/QUOTE]

And that is unacceptable for a club with our history and for the supporters who still believe that we are something more than also rans.

 

[Lanolin]

We haven't finished 16th, it's 7 games in.

Clearly modern football fans are absolute turds. I'm out.

It's 14 games in mate, and we haven't had one 90 minute performance yet.

You don't bring in Wayne Rooney on huge wages and a 2 year contract, bring in a free transfer right back just because he's more experienced than your other options, and smash your transfer record on a 28 year old and then claim it's a long term project. Clearly we signed players with a view to performing well now, and it isn't happening.

It's all very well saying be patient but there needs to be a reason to believe it will be worthwhile. At the moment there isn't one, so Koeman should be under massive pressure to at least make it look like things are changing very soon.

 

[Sentinel]

We have a manager who has no apparent feel for the club. A stepping stone, to some personal fantasy, that see's us as a rung on the ladder. Nothing more than paycheck

We have a chairmen who appears to be in it for the money. Whether it be Moshiri or Kenwright.

That by any standards is cause of concern. At the very least these are issues that need to be confronted and addressed.

Or we can all sit back and be "fans". And watch as we become an irrelevance, a footnote to our neighbors or to lesser teams.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

His performance as a manager is simply not good enough. It has nothing to do with knee jerk reactions or joining some obscure notions of bandwagons. It isn't good enough and if it continues or there is no marked sign of improvement he has to go, period. As Evertonians we either, accept mediocrity or we make ourselves heard, in other words, this present predicament is simply unacceptable. Inane shouts of Newcastle "like" supporter behavior are inaccurate. We have history, they don't. The moment we accept inferior status is the moment we accept defeat. I'll never accept that. We are one of the most successful clubs in the history of football.

My instincts tell me that is all about about money, specifically the waterfront, and nothing to do with investing with intent in the club. To enable us to compete again and expect defeats from, let's be honest, historically our inferiors. Moshiri has to show himself more than a mere carpetbagger, Kenright too. Far too long has he rode on the coattails of being a boys pen Evertonian.

If he is, as he proclaimed many times, one of us, then it's time for him to to move aside or at the very least enable or persuade whoever is in charge of our club, because let's be honest no-one knows, who is. There needs be change. Real change that allows us to compete again. Our club was built upon success, hence the motto. Nobody associated with Everton should accept the so called monied clubs sweeping all aside. I'll never accept that, if Everton means anything as a supporter, it means something more than that. It's fundamentally in our DNA, we fight and sometimes lose, so be it, but we, never meekly surrender. It's not an option and it shouldn't be for anybody who is in anyway associated with our club.

I utterly despise Newcastle they are one of two clubs I would happily expunge from history along with their odious fans, man ,woman and child. But to suggest they have no history is wholly incorrect. They have won 4 titles (albeit the last was 90 years ago), 6 F.A. cups ( 1 more than us) and are I believe ranked 9th (or thereabouts ) most successful English team. They have even two (admittedly mickey mouse) European trophies.
I have been watching us since the mid sixties and looking back our decline has been relentless. The Kendall years now seem a brief hiatus and Royles cup win a pleasant blip.
My eldest child was fortunate to witness 95 , but has never seen us even challenge for the title. He now brings his child to the match. It is 2 generations since we last won a title. We still remain one of the most successful sides domestically but the pinnacle of club football is now Europe more specifically the CL, and we have failed historically to establish ourselves (apart from 1 glorious but paltry success.) In regard to Europe we are relative minnows.
All of this serves to illustrate the scale of the challenge we face to re - establish ourselves as a top club. Until we have owners determined to provide the ( considerable) finances and the will to succeed we will continue to lag and decline. I won't be holding my breath.

 

[eurosrees]

Because Koeman has the tactical nous of Gary Megson.

A tad harsh on Megson that, pretty sure he knows what the words 'Width' and 'Pace' mean.

 

[heatmeiser]

It's 14 games in mate, and we haven't had one 90 minute performance yet.

You don't bring in Wayne Rooney on huge wages and a 2 year contract, bring in a free transfer right back just because he's more experienced than your other options, and smash your transfer record on a 28 year old and then claim it's a long term project. Clearly we signed players with a view to performing well now, and it isn't happening.

It's all very well saying be patient but there needs to be a reason to believe it will be worthwhile. At the moment there isn't one, so Koeman should be under massive pressure to at least make it look like things are changing very soon.

Weird. I'm looking at the league table now and it's saying 7 games played. Must be out of date.

That was in reference to finishing 16th. Finishing 16th.

 

[Lanolin]

Weird. I'm looking at the league table now and it's saying 7 games played. Must be out of date.

That was in reference to finishing 16th. Finishing 16th.

I feel like you think that's proving a point somehow but i'm not sure what it is? I appreciate that you were talking about the league, but I was attempting to show you that this isn't just 7 game run, and therefore we have enough data to suggest that finishing 16th is absolutely not out of the question, because our form has now been poor for a prolonged period of time. I don't think we will, because if this goes on much longer i'm sure we'll make a change, but don't underestimate just how we poor at the moment. No away wins for 10 months is very very bad in its own right - when you start losing at home to the likes of Burnley aswell it becomes a full blown crisis.

To keep this on topic, the idea that we seemingly 'expect' to lose a minimum of 5 more home games when we come up against the fabled top 6, allied to our truly abysmal away form is a genuine recipe for disaster.

 

[Sentinel]

They have won 4 titles (albeit the last was 90 years ago), 6 F.A. cups ( 1 more than us) and are I believe ranked 9th (or thereabouts ) most successful English team. They have even two (admittedly mickey mouse) European trophies.

I'm not disparaging Newcastle but they are a lesser club, their record pales next to ours. I'm aware of the history but to compare their record next to us is an insult. What next, Burnley, Preston etc..? Have we sunk so low? Are we to compare ourselves to the fading lights. I'm sorry but with that mentality we'll never escape the defeatist stench that reeks throughout our club.

 

[Frang]

good to hear adam partington on the sport bar lastnight, mentioning about this!

 

[Khalekan]

I think we have all had to be one of them fans in the past, simply because we had no financial muscle and we always tended to fight above our weight.
The difference now is we have a manager that has been given funds that should of been the platform for us to at least challenge the top 6.
What we have is a dire situation were i really see no change...and that scares me

It's worse than that.

It us indeed changing.....for the worse.

We now know officially that the main man at the club "expects" to lose against certain teams.

That really is new territory in my experience

 

[Frang]

It's worse than that.

It us indeed changing.....for the worse.

We now know officially that the main man at the club "expects" to lose against certain teams.

That really is new territory in my experience

moshiri might well know how to complete a tax return and get a rebate out of it.. but he certainly doesn't know ANYTHING on running a football club.

this is becoming blatantly clear.

we need someone who knows how to conduct football related business at the helm.

he should appoint a new CEO who fronts up for him, someone who is respected and knows a thing or two about running an elite football club.

Bill and Moshiri are playing around, trying to run this, OUR, club.

what on earth has happened to us. expecting to lose matches. WTF.

any fan that is happy with our current situation, needs to give their head a big wobble.

 

[Number_25]

We're Everton, we don't sack managers.

 

[4737carlin]

We're Everton, we don't sack managers.

We dont but when we should off they should pop.

We as fans and a club need to get away from that "were Everton" mentality, unfortunately the Everton that we think we "We're" or are clearly dosen't work, from top to bottom, club and fans everything is wrong