The Depressing Duo

[Neiler]

Is this realy fair?

I mean if we accept player trading is an important part of the business of football and every club is reliant on it to an extent, its hard to say that the club havnt pulled of some brilliant deals under William of Everton regn:

Lukaku
Coleman
Distin
Pienaar
Baines
Jags
Lescott
Arteta
Cahill
Martyn
Yobo

 

[Saint Domingo]

Is this realy fair?

I mean if we accept player trading is an important part of the business of football and every club is reliant on it to an extent, its hard to say that the club havnt pulled of some brilliant deals under William of Everton regn:

Lukaku
Coleman
Distin
Pienaar
Baines
Jags
Lescott
Arteta
Cahill
Martyn
Yobo

When our hands were tied financially I think it improved out scouting no end. Moyes knew he couldn't make any mistakes. Now we're like a kid in the sweet shop having a look at everything but still ending up just defaulting to a Freddo when his mum tells him to 'hurry up and just pick something'

 

[cadex]

It's moshiris job to remove Bill. Isn't ballsy enough to do it.

Moshiri should get Elstone to get rid of Bill and then it should be relatively simple to get rid of Elstone..a bit like how they do it in mafia circles.

 

[chippy1722]

Is this realy fair?

I mean if we accept player trading is an important part of the business of football and every club is reliant on it to an extent, its hard to say that the club havnt pulled of some brilliant deals under William of Everton regn:

Lukaku
Coleman
Distin
Pienaar
Baines
Jags
Lescott
Arteta
Cahill
Martyn
Yobo

I would give moyes the credit for all bar one of them.
I think Lukaku would have been the only one that needed negotiating, the rest would have been fairly straight forward.

 

[Neiler]

I would give moyes the credit for all bar one of them.
I think Lukaku would have been the only one that needed negotiating, the rest would have been fairly straight forward.

See that is part of the problem they get nailed when they dont come of and when they do its the manager.

In terms of player trading its hard to find a club who has done it as well as Everton broadly over the course of Kenwirghts reign at the club.

Of course im not talking of dropping 1billion and walking away, im talking about buying low, selling high and reinvest. There is more to it then that though, there has to be synergy with management as well and limits in terms of budgets, its a hell of a lot more then throwing money at it and walking away.

I would accept we are currently operating within a glass ceiling of being attractive to type of player we are trying to recruit.

 

[msb]

I would give moyes the credit for all bar one of them.
I think Lukaku would have been the only one that needed negotiating, the rest would have been fairly straight forward.

So anything good is the manager, anything bad is a convenient scapegoat, when in fact, we KNOW absolutely nothing about it.

Seems fair to me, glad you're not in any judgement role. Also hard to credit Moyes with buying Lukaku when it was under the management of Pepe Brown Shoes.

 

[Bally8]

City no messing about there's how you conduct transfers.

Lessons to learn

 

[bluestevon]

City no messing about there's how you conduct transfers.

Lessons to learn

Easy when your the richest club on the planet, with the manager rated as the best in the world mate.

 

[MACCA75]

Elstone needs to go, been out of his depth since the minute he got here. Talking up sponsorship deals as 'the best in the clubs history' (be a disgrace if they weren't) when they weren't even competitive with the likes of Fulham.
The farcical availability of merchandise over the years (I remember not even being able to buy a medium men's home shirt in August, anywhere in Liverpool). The wretched kitbag deal. His small time rhetoric dripping in A level Business studies 'management speak'. His failure to grasp what Everton is all about.

And old romantic Bill, who still won't let go of the train set. A man who should be taking the tours of Goodison so he can wax lyrical about the boys pen, rather than be negotiating Premier League football deals.

Be gone with them.

 

[Jreverton1]

Here we are, the summer transfer window is upon us. Some enjoy it and some hate it. Evertonians normally have had enough by June 23rd and have accepted we will end up with our 5th choice centre half and some bizzare loan deal on the last day.

Another guarantee is that Evertonians will be moaning at the two people who are heavily involved in these deals. Robert Elstone and Bill Kenwright.

Their incompetence is well documented, yet we are sat on the brink of "the biggest summer for years" they're still running these transfers.

First of all we have been saying this biggest summer for years since the best Everton team I've seen got to a cup final and sadly lost. Every summer goes by and the above phrase gets mentioned and yet it always disappoints.

Why is it these two are set to carry on their hurricane of incompetence for another summer? Why hasn't Morshiri brought in his own deal makers?

Just interested to hear theories and from any lunatic who doesn't believe they're to blame?

I had enough and we not even signed anyone. Cuco Martina and Wayne Rooney says it all for me.

 

[Jreverton1]

I believe Moshiri has the right intentions too. Not based on anything though. More hope than anything.

I just can't bring myself to trust Kenwright and Elstone 100% though sadly.

It's Elstone I can't trust, you don't get that tan unless you're taking millions out of Everton every year...

 

[ijjysmith]

It's Elstone I can't trust, you don't get that tan unless you're taking millions out of Everton every year...

Oh yeah him too. Very untrustworthy face.

 

[a bell maul]

That the suntanned bloke and the fella who weeps all the time are still running the show tells me that Moshiri isn't here for football success. He's here on a real estate play.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Just had a letter through the door, opened it and it was a card saying 'Thank You' with an Everton badge underneath.

The signature at the bottom was from Kenwright. Honestly thought it was him thanking the fans for his time here and announcing that he was leaving.

Sadly, it was just to thank me for going to away games.

 

[orly]

That the suntanned bloke and the fella who weeps all the time are still running the show tells me that Moshiri isn't here for football success. He's here on a real estate play.

He's a very shrewd individual, but it's a shame that he's used us and Troy Deeney as his Trojan Horse