Transfer Rumour Kalidou Koulibaly

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Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Re the whole "World Class" argument, I think in general there are just less World Class players operating these days now, owing to the game becoming more and more tactical and regimented

Often now it's about finding players that fit systems, rather than adapting systems to fit players

Barcelona are a unique case where both the calibre of the player and the system were of equal importance because so much of the team came from the youth ranks, but if you look at teams like Chelsea under Mourinho and Conte, a manager will have a preferred tactical approach and he'll promote and champion players who suit the style, meaning you can be an important cog in a hugely successful team without having to be "World Class" when it comes to technical ability

Look at Nicky Butt at Man United, no one would ever call him World Class but he was a core part of a very successful side because he did the "water carrying" for the other players in the squad, so that Giggs, Beckham, Cantona etc could provide the thrills

So this Koulibaly fellow may or may not be World Class, but ultimately that's less important than whether he could thrive in whatever system Koeman is planning to employ next season. So essentially whether he's World Class or not is ultimately a useless point of discussion that has no real baring on the relevant area of this debate, which is whether he can do the job for Everton that we'd need him to do. He can be World Class but be a round peg in a square hole (Thus what's the point?) or he could be below World Class but perfect for Koeman's system and thus entirely worth the money
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All hail @Mikey_Fitzgerald, nailed it in one with top knowledge again. I'll ignore the Leigh Griffiths shouts though mate..
 
Eggs said:
..I can't see us getting both, indeed it's probably a slim chance of getting either but what a formiddable partnership that would be.
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I don't know enough about Koulibaly in all honesty. Probably more a possibility that we get him, I think Chelsea will be all over van dijk.
 
Eggs said:
..I can't see us getting both, indeed it's probably a slim chance of getting either but what a formiddable partnership that would be.
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I think Juventus look incredible with Chiellini, Bonucci and Barzagli + Benatia and Rugani.

Their centre backs are just so good and even if you manage somehow to get past them theres Buffon.

I think our midfielders give our defenders a lot of protection so if we had Koulibaly+VVD or even similar quality stars who are fast+ tall and can tackle we could do very well with pickford as even if hes shorter than most keepers he has superb reflexes so we could look good defensively.

VVD+Koulibaly would be the dream and it would be hard to find a better centre back pairing in world football on paper
 

bluestevon said:
Honestly mate, even on my most optimistic day, i can't imagine we could actually afford both players, you'd be looking at a 100m outlay on just two centre backs, we have quite a few positions needing fixing, and on napkin math we 'may' raise around 80-90m (top end estimate) in sales this summer without Lukaku or Barkley being sold.
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I agree but I wonder if Lukaku gone for silly money if we do it. Or if we get over 30 million offer for Gueye?
 
Am I right that we offered about €50m for Napoli?

Is Gana his mate?


This could be our marquee signing. Kulibuli could be our Kompany for years to come

(Daydreaming ffs)
 

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