Gylfi Sigurdsson

eurosrees · July 25, 2016

leelead said:
straight choice between Gylfi Sigurdsson & Juan Mata
Who do you choose?

Sigurdsson's goal and assist stats are better, the plus side with Mata is the signal of intent which might lead to other big names coming along.

Mikey_Fitzgerald · July 25, 2016

tim cahill said:
Which position would he play though. Who would you leave out?

Not really up to me is it mate?

I was just answering who I'd prefer over Mata or Siggy (Another plus for Sigurdsson is I can call him "Siggy")

tim cahill · July 25, 2016

Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Not really up to me is it mate?

I was just answering who I'd prefer over Mata or Siggy (Another plus for Sigurdsson is I can call him "Siggy")

I'm aware that you're not our manager mate. But as you think he'd be a good signing, I'm just interested in how you think he would fit in?

Neiler · July 25, 2016

Zatara said:
Wouldnt get in any of the traditional top 4 sides....

Funny you should mention mate, for something completely different ive had to compare his stats against Dele Ali, Sigurdsson comes out on top.

Saint Domingo · July 25, 2016

Neiler said:
Funny you should mention mate, for something completely different ive had to compare his stats against Dele Ali, Sigurdsson comes out on top.

Most midfielders do against Dele Alli but he's young English and plays for Spurs so is automatically a media darling. Did nothing at the Euros.

Zatara · July 25, 2016

Thomasc said:
All that this actually means is that they have slightly better or equal players in that position, Ozil and Hazard for example.

Doesn't make him not good enough.

Then you have to factor in it is a team game and how those players fit into that team and what they offer to the make up of the side.

Your focussing of individuals doesn't seem to factor in any of this, which is quite bizarre for somebody who portrays themselves as knowing a bit about the game.

The playmaker IS an individual, its the position which determines how the team play.

Would he make our other players look better, perhaps but i dont see him as being good enough to push barkley back....would be a rotation player.

Zatara · July 25, 2016

Neiler said:
Funny you should mention mate, for something completely different ive had to compare his stats against Dele Ali, Sigurdsson comes out on top.

Delle Alli is surrounded by top players like Eriksson etc whilst at Swansea i imagine everything goes through him which could well pad his stats....

Nymzee · July 25, 2016

Zatara said:
Delle Alli is surrounded by top players like Eriksson etc whilst at Swansea i imagine everything goes through him which could well pad his stats....

Isn't that the point of a playmaker to send everything through him? He'd be even more productive with better players around him.

Zatara · July 25, 2016

Nymzee said:
Isn't that the point of a playmaker to send everything through him? He'd be even more productive with better players around him.

Sure but whose to say he hasnt found his level?

Just musing about it really...cant see him coming with swansea having a new investor.

I quite like Calhanoglu (not just for his free kicks) and Bernardo Silva who would be perfect with Carvalho.

Nymzee · July 25, 2016

Zatara said:
Sure but whose to say he hasnt found his level?

Just musing about it really...cant see him coming with swansea having a new investor.

I quite like Calhanoglu (not just for his free kicks) and Bernardo Silva who would be perfect with Carvalho.

Whilst I'd agree those two are more talented than Sigurdsson the new boss has to hit the ground running so think he'd choose PL experience over potential every day of the week there.

Neiler · July 25, 2016

Zatara said:
Delle Alli is surrounded by top players like Eriksson etc whilst at Swansea i imagine everything goes through him which could well pad his stats....

I suppose the counter arguement is though that playing with better quality players enables you to have more oppurtunites and space. Siggy only played in no 10 from Monks sacking onwards as well. Funnily Ayew at Swansea was ahead of both Alli and Sigurdsson and on a par with Eriksen. When you actually crunch the numbers its surprising reading.

Players who had better numbers then Siggy were Mahrez, Ozil, Sanchez, Payet, Ayew, Arnautovic and Eriksen. In the second half of the season when he was no 10, Sigurdsson has the best overall numbers.

ilikecheese · July 25, 2016

mikeh72 said:
Mahrez definitely would imo. He's on a different level altogether than Sigurdsson

Would you have said the same prior to last season? That was my point.

MikeH72 · July 25, 2016

ilikecheese said:
Would you have said the same prior to last season? That was my point.

Maybe not, but Mahrez was pretty much a newcomer to the league at that point, once he found his feet we saw how good he is. Sigurdsson imo has been the same for about 5 years