Munich Shooting

Walken · July 23, 2016

ToffeeTim said:
Quite worrying that these people are born or lived a large chunk of their lives in Europe and are attacking Europeans in the name of the warped cult that is ISIS. Quite worrying in that there are enough nutjob far right types who will want some kind of retaliation and before we know it we could be stuck in a vicious circle.

Various political agents campaigning on hate and fear, our press and establishment thriving on hate and fear, is there even a desire at the top to stop it?

jal123 · July 23, 2016

Polish_Blue_Army said:
I have a different view on this subject

Why not express your view, it is a discussion forum after all?

Polish_Blue_Army · July 23, 2016

jal123 said:
Why not express your view, it is a discussion forum after all?

Discussion forum ?

My view is very evil - it is not left wing. I differ nationality from the citizenship. And i don't agree that French people are killing their fellow Frenchmen for example

ToffeeTim · July 23, 2016

Walken said:
Various political agents campaigning on hate and fear, our press and establishment thriving on hate and fear, is there even a desire at the top to stop it?

But that's not even the crux of the matter. I don't like politicians but I'd like to think most desire to stop the likes of islamic state, the IRA, far right terror cells etc. But how on earth do we stop the likes of ISIS. I've literally no idea. If we do nothing they will attack and kill with free reign. If we go all Donald Trump and threaten to obliterate them then we give then all the recruitment boosts they could ever dream of.

I genuinely have got no idea.

pornpimol2 · July 23, 2016

ToffeeTim said:
But that's not even the crux of the matter. I don't like politicians but I'd like to think most desire to stop the likes of islamic state, the IRA, far right terror cells etc. But how on earth do we stop the likes of ISIS. I've literally no idea. If we do nothing they will attack and kill with free reign. If we go all Donald Trump and threaten to obliterate them then we give then all the recruitment boosts they could ever dream of.

I genuinely have got no idea.

The real power brokers make to much money from arms to have peace and look what happen's

Walken · July 23, 2016

ToffeeTim said:
But that's not even the crux of the matter. I don't like politicians but I'd like to think most desire to stop the likes of islamic state, the IRA, far right terror cells etc. But how on earth do we stop the likes of ISIS. I've literally no idea. If we do nothing they will attack and kill with free reign. If we go all Donald Trump and threaten to obliterate them then we give then all the recruitment boosts they could ever dream of.

I genuinely have got no idea.

I agree totally with this, we have to stop doing their propaganda for them, unfortunately aggressive ignorant tactics play better with voters

Seanjd · July 23, 2016

Really strange one this. A Getman-Iranian, shouting "I am German", then allegedly shouting 'anti foreigner slurs' while shooting.

It takes somebody with serious mental health issues to do something like this anyway, so I think that often motives are hazy anyway, but im not sure if they will get to the bottom of this in terms of motive.

peteblue · July 23, 2016

Walken said:
I agree totally with this, we have to stop doing their propaganda for them, unfortunately aggressive ignorant tactics play better with voters

What would you do to stop them......

SNova · July 23, 2016

peteblue said:
What would you do to stop them......

#prayforMunich

ItsOKImAPilot · July 23, 2016

Seanjd said:
Really strange one this. A Getman-Iranian, shouting "I am German", then allegedly shouting 'anti foreigner slurs' while shooting.

It takes somebody with serious mental health issues to do something like this anyway, so I think that often motives are hazy anyway, but im not sure if they will get to the bottom of this in terms of motive.

Agreed, I would not even be surprised if they find out he was having issues at home and just took it out on people. German officials have ruled out terrorism.

atrottel · July 23, 2016

Police say:
i) there currently appears to be no political motivation
ii) the suspected dead shooter had been having psychological treatment

Bruce Wayne · July 23, 2016

jal123 said:
Why not express your view, it is a discussion forum after all?

Lets not go down that road please. We have been down this path many times in the past, and these kind of threads largely remain open on the urging that members show responsibility in what they say.

peteblue · July 23, 2016

ItsOKImAPilot said:
Agreed, I would not even be surprised if they find out he was having issues at home and just took it out on people. German officials have ruled out terrorism.

This is what it sounds like really, a young lad with troubles........

ToffeeTim · July 23, 2016

He was Islamic, but also had obvious links to Anders Breivik say Munich Police. This is a complex one. It's terror regardless of his motive tho. Surely it's the act that is terror not whether you had links to any group.

Seanjd · July 23, 2016

ToffeeTim said:
He was Islamic, but also had obvious links to Anders Breivik say Munich Police. This is a complex one. It's terror regardless of his motive tho. Surely it's the act that is terror not whether you had links to any group.

Links to Anders Breivik? First I've heard.