Roberto Martinez Discussion - Including Live Poll (Poll Reset 1st May)

[AndyC]

It's amazing the amount of different ways people can say how much they hate our manager.

Wouldn't go so far as to say I hate him, I just don't want him as manager of Everton FC longer than tomorrows' game.

I honestly think he should offer to resign immediately after the game irrespective of the result and if he's not prepared, willing or honest enough with himself to do that, then he should be dismissed.

The 72-point season is history and he's in the record books for that, but he is not the future - short, medium or long term - and this seasons cup runs do not paper over the yawning chasms and fissures, not paltry cracks, surrounding all the first team squad, him and his woefully inadequate ex-Wigan coaching staff.

If we haven't got a new managerial appointment ready to step immediately into the job, then hopefully Big Joe would take it on till the end of the season.

The sheer negativity and resignation by so many that we'll do well to get even one more win in the league this season is depressing, humiliating and a simply horrible, horrible feeling.

I hope the crowd tomorrow can and will get behind the team, and that we don't get on their backs if mistakes are made. The players must be as low as a snakes belly at the moment and some vocal encouragement is needed and could work wonders.

 

[big bobs beard]

When I think of Moyes era there was always someone in the team who came out fighting, Tommy G, Carsley, Cahill, even Fellaini, if someone needed a kick in a game his elbow would always mange to connect to their head. We had fight, we had spirit, what we lacked was money to get a consistent decent striker. We now have that but we've completely lost that do or die spirit. That is my big issue with RM, lots of fluffy words but he and the team lack any backbone. We're a poor impersonation of Arsenal because for all their lack of backbone and tip tppy nonesense, at least they finish top .

This. Also have never replaced Pienaar and Osman clever footballers who could hold the ball high up the pitch and get Baines and Coleman involved through intelligent football. Moyes was basically that strict teacher you had to give your all for otherwise he would be on your case and make your life a misery. Roberto is the smiling fool who only ever praised you , let you get away with murder and subsequently you failed in that subject. That's what these players have become, no matter how many times the likes of Stones cock up their is no backlash and no learning. He is obviously so obsessed getting perfect pass completion %s that instead of lashing it forward he plays it back to the keeper to make the cock up for him.

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

CLOWN

 

[Saint Domingo]

Everton owe us one good weekend this season. Sake Everton, just give us ONE decent day will ya.

 

[AndyC]

Everton owe us one good weekend this season. Sake Everton, just give us ONE decent day will ya.

If we could go W-D-W over the next three games, that would be a good week... fingers crossed.

 

[Khalekan]

If we could go W-D-W over the next three games, that would be a good week... fingers crossed.

What's wrong with W W W.

You defeatist, you

 

[AndyC]

What's wrong with W W W.

You defeatist, you

Goes and stands in the corner with hands on head at such a cutting rebuke, I'm devastated mate

 

[Khalekan]

Goes and stands in the corner with hands on head at such a cutting rebuke, I'm devastated mate

lol lol lol

 

[Khalekan]

When I think of Moyes era there was always someone in the team who came out fighting, Tommy G, Carsley, Cahill, even Fellaini, if someone needed a kick in a game his elbow would always mange to connect to their head. We had fight, we had spirit, what we lacked was money to get a consistent decent striker. We now have that but we've completely lost that do or die spirit. That is my big issue with RM, lots of fluffy words but he and the team lack any backbone. We're a poor impersonation of Arsenal because for all their lack of backbone and tip tppy nonesense, at least they finish top .

There are very few of that type of player around nowadays....at any club.

Cahil, Carsley, mad Tommy G, Stubbs....even Phil Neville were a ing the last of their kind.

Today's pro footballers are cosseted from such an early age they take no responsibility for owt about their off field life, never mind take a match by the scruff of the neck.

They are introverted and have been conditioned to accept their own personal stats as the most important thing in the game.

 

[EvertonRhys]

Apathy has set in as it's become expected that we'll either perform woefully or when we occasionally do perform we ultimately throw in the towel.

Watching Everton simply isn't pleasurable at the moment to point where people are now simply becoming desensitised to our failings.

Martinez talks about building the club and embedding a future but I see it otherwise; I see the soul of fan base being drained from us.

Completely nailed it mate. For the past month or so, while I've been looking forward to watching the football on the weekends, I struggle to want to watch Everton. Is it saying something the most interesting part about tomorrow is not the result, but the reception Martinez will get?

Haven't felt like this for years, since I completely turned off from footy in the 2000-01 season. Need some heart quickly, ultimately a change at the end of the season at the very latest. Otherwise, the little bit of feel good factor will drain from the club over the summer, as well as our top players!

 

[Khalekan]

Goes and stands in the corner with hands on head at such a cutting rebuke, I'm devastated mate

You know what, Block?

I am going to tell you sommat here.

If the seventy two hours from Hell materialises as most on here believe it will, I am not going to point one finger of blame at Bobby.

It won't be his fault.

The man should have been taken out of the firing line at least a week ago.

If he leads us to perdition over the next eight days my anger will be directed at the boardroom, which appears to be caught like a rabbit in the headlights of an oncoming juggernaut.

 

[The Esk]

I listened to Ranieri's press conference earlier and I'm struck by the difference between his and Roberto's. I thought about it a little more and actually there's a strong correlation between how the press conference is conducted and how a team plays. Roberto's press conferences have got increasingly disjointed, the messages muddled and unclear interspersed with often delusional views on performances, yet Ranieri's are the complete opposite, meaningful, informed, structured, everything he says has a positive meaning. One assumes each manager manages and communicates in a similar way as to how they conduct their press conferences - the results are quite obvious.

 

[Bungle]

Yep and you know who is to blame for allowing this to happen.
Selfish ******* is Bill.

You're like a jilted ex, did you and Bill have a night of passion and he never called again?

Some of your personal attacks on Kenwright are uncalled for and you seem to struggle to keep your bitterness under wraps. Get a grip eh?

 

[eddy]

It's amazing the amount of different ways people can say how much they hate our manager.

I do not hate him, I would be hard pressed to even say I dislike him. I just think he is extremely poor at the job
that he gets paid a lot of money to do. If you asked me how did I feel about Martinez, the word i would
use would be `tired` really just `tired` of him on every level.

The strange substitutions, gameplan, alcaraz, kone, relegated backroom staff, but tired the most of the waffle and the
inability to accept he has to share some of the responsibilty for our league position.

He reminds me of some american self help guru psychoanalyst, who would correct you if you said anything negative and would make you use a positive word. The type where if you say its a cold day he would reply and say " tommorrow will be warmer "
you know the type of middle management that has not quite made it and gets on your tits at work as they want to `empower `you
not suprised the players are hacked off with him and his endless waffle ..... I fear the there is going to be lots of endless waffle this week
Merson Wright will have a feild day, these pundits must see him as ` the gift that keeps on giving `

 

[The Esk]

If he leads us to perdition over the next eight days my anger will be directed at the boardroom, which appears to be caught like a rabbit in the headlights of an oncoming juggernaut.

I think the pre Moshiri board would have fitted this description in today's position, but I can't stress enough the difference post Moshiri's involvement. Change is happening, we just have to see the season out.