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Plan B - Stick Kone on

Same question, back at you, please highlight 1 game where the tactics have changed mid game.
That criticism of just playing one way was valid last season, not for me this season. We've shown we can play any number of ways, be it on the counter, dominating the ball or mixing it up and going long into the channels for Lukaku. As for a game in particular, for me the games tend to blur together but I'm sure there's examples out there.
 
That criticism of just playing one way was valid last season, not for me this season. We've shown we can play any number of ways, be it on the counter, dominating the ball or mixing it up and going long into the channels for Lukaku. As for a game in particular, for me the games tend to blur together but I'm sure there's examples out there.

We play differently away, the Plan A away is to hit teams on the counter attack and it works, very well, when teams park the bus, like 90% of teams do at Goodison we struggle to break them down, for 18months now.

Ive said this before, but in his first season, Baines got injured in the Derby, he brought on Geri, he won my heart that day and its probably the only reason he retains what little "support" I have, that and his superb squad building.

Ive still waiting for something like that again, I want that man back.
 
We play differently away, the Plan A away is to hit teams on the counter attack and it works, very well, when teams park the bus, like 90% of teams do at Goodison we struggle to break them down, for 18months now.

Ive said this before, but in his first season, Baines got injured in the Derby, he brought on Geri, he won my heart that day and its probably the only reason he retains what little "support" I have, that and his superb squad building.

Ive still waiting for something like that again, I want that man back.
That's the case with any team though IMO, if they sit back against you and put 11 men behind the ball they're always going to be tough to break down.

I don't think we've struggled as much with this over the last season, we've managed to break down and create chances against every team we've played. Even last game we created some good chances that just weren't put away. Scoring goals isn't our issue, defending has been and imo we've been much more solid in that department since the turn of the year. Keeping Howard in the team will help maintain that.
 
Lads, less of the bickering.

We are all blues here


Sometimes I wonder about that.

You would not read so much hatred and bile directed at the Everton manager, Everton fans, the Everton chairman and Everton whipping boy players on the forums of other teams.

Including the RS.

If someone had told you twenty years ago there would come a day in the very near future when, from the comfort of your own home and on a 24/7 basis, you would be able to magically tap into a piece of apparatus which allowed you to commune with people from all round the world about the subject dearest to your heart (besides your family) you would have been delighted at the thoughts of endless hours chatting about the club and owt connected to it in a civil, positive fashion.

Instead, half the time it is faction fighting and displays of self loathing which sees some people take the time to dissect the few victories we have had this season and point out favourable refereeing decisions we have had and opposition players missing sitters which would have resulted in us losing even the games we have won :Blink:

I mean you wouldn't see folk on RAWK or Red Cafe concerning themselves with blatant penalties which were not awarded against them.

Nor would they be fuming against the manager after an incident like the Chelsea offside goal or the City goal which came from a cross when the ball had crossed the line.

No sir/ma'am......they would be sticking pins in little voodoo doll effigies of the ref or linesman at fault :mad:
 

Agreed. That said: think we need to replace Howard in the summer. Hoping this will happen in the right manner. Tim gets to head back to U.S. with head held high etc.
Agreed think we'll bring in a new keeper in the summer, was just referring to the fact many assumed he was the sole cause while our defensive issues ran deeper
 

Ive said this before, but in his first season, Baines got injured in the Derby, he brought on Geri, he won my heart that day and its probably the only reason he retains what little "support" I have, that and his superb squad building.

Ive still waiting for something like that again, I want that man back.

If that game happened this season, he'd get torn to bits for conceding three, especially a late equaliser from a set piece.

GAME MANAGEMENT.
 
Would you say Everton brought a knife to a gunfight?

No not at all.

I think we were more than capable of beating City (like we proved in the first leg), but away from home it was always going to be difficult.

They pushed us back due to a combination of having extremely good attacking players, being at home, and we did perhaps sit too deep - but we were however holding our own until that second goal went in (which ultimately changed the game completely, which is why it's such a sucker punch in that instance that the ref has got it so wrong - just like against Chelsea).

Anyway, I don't think our performance was that bad and this argument that 'we only had to keep a clean sheet' is just ridiculous. Rarely do sides keep a clean sheet away at Manchester City.

Btw, I posted the stats for the semi-final second leg on this thread earlier.

As our display at City has been described as 'pitiful', here are the stats for that game, compared with the one on Sunday that Spurs won...

Man City v Tottenham
Possession
City 46%
Spurs 54%

Shots
City 19
Spurs 6

Shots on Target
City 4
Spurs 3

Corners
City 7
Spurs 1

Fouls
City 12
Spurs 17

Man City v Everton
Possession
City 55%
Everton 45%

Shots
City 19
Everton 4

Shots on Target
City 5
Everton 2

Corners
City 9
Everton 2
 
You've got high standards.

You've probably got good excuses for losing at home to the mighty Swansea and west brom?

During the Jan transfer window some on here were creaming themselves over Stoke and Newcastle and how much 'ambition' they were showing...

Of course it's really disappointing that we couldn't beat the two you mentioned, but that doesn't take away from the games we have won. We've also beaten Chelsea and hammered a very good Southampton side, for example.

If not for an in-correct decision in the last minute we would have done the double over Chelsea as well. We've got two draws against Spurs which now look like great results - and considering that we finished the home game very much on the front foot I was happy with that.
 
Im just very happy right now.Im very happy with all the excitement and all that and who cares where we finish.So long as we stay in the top flight that's the main thing.Those are the rules now.You stay happy and bow down and worship at the alter of Mister Martinez.Anything less and you are a Kopite Provocateur apparently.;)
 
During the Jan transfer window some on here were creaming themselves over Stoke and Newcastle and how much 'ambition' they were showing...

Of course it's really disappointing that we couldn't beat the two you mentioned, but that doesn't take away from the games we have won. We've also beaten Chelsea and hammered a very good Southampton side, for example.

If not for an in-correct decision in the last minute we would have done the double over Chelsea as well. We've got two draws against Spurs which now look like great results - and considering that we finished the home game very much on the front foot I was happy with that.

We've won 4 games in 10 months at home. Enough with the excuses...
 

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