I think with everything that has happened to this lad, history is telling us that yes he has taken some very bad advice along the road.
Anyway, what's done is done, hope he gets to play some football and enjoys the rest of his career.
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I think with everything that has happened to this lad, history is telling us that yes he has taken some very bad advice along the road.
Anyway, what's done is done, hope he gets to play some football and enjoys the rest of his career.
Tanya James and himself should meet for coffee!
No idea who Tanya James is so googled her, missus sat next to me.... Woops, Wont be doing that again.
BoysInBlue
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To be fair, this thread was started back when he was still an Everton player in 2009. It's interesting to look back how his career's gone since.
We have so many ex-player 'poster boys' for the 'Grass Isn't Greener' saying.
Serves as a good lesson to all the 'Young Billy big bollocks' that think they have made it. Shows how quickly it can go down hill.
I'd have done the same thing as Gosling.
I suspect the vast majority on here would have done too.
We would only offer him a deal if he recovered to our satisfaction from his career threatening injury - an injury the Clubs professionals aggravated.
The lad invested his life into football, and had very genuine doubts over his future. Newcastle offered him a deal/mortgage paid off and more - the offer of regular football in his preferred position.
I suspect the vast majority on here would have done too.
We would only offer him a deal if he recovered to our satisfaction from his career threatening injury - an injury the Clubs professionals aggravated.
The lad invested his life into football, and had very genuine doubts over his future. Newcastle offered him a deal/mortgage paid off and more - the offer of regular football in his preferred position.
Bhahahahahah i meant this one mate: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/david-james-former-england-goalkeeper-3548934
As opposed to nsfw: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/tanya_james/?nopopup=true
Apologies to Mrs Marekb!
I suspect they may have been fibbing though mate!
Goes to show the jinx that can come with the breaking of a gentle mans agreement!
Wonder did he bin his agent!
Ah, got ya.
worth remembering his injury may have been worse due to moyes forcing him to stay on the pitch when he couldnt even move
That's what I referred to by 'Clubs professionals aggravated'
Rathbone: "Just jog it off lad..."
Rathbone went shortly after that didn't he?
cant have been long after mate, might well have ruined him that
Deggo
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[Poor language removed] and he has now found a level in which he is a lot nearer his abilities however I feel that he will now disappear into the lower level abyss and fade away to nothingness a dramatic fall for a young lad and scorer of a derby winner but hey may he enjoy his new found fame..............The tool!!!!
BoysInBlue
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Rathbone went in May 2010. Gosling left in July 2010. Rathbone went before Gosling.
Gosling's injury vs Wolves was a weird one - he came on as an 83rd minute sub so was only on the pitch for the last 7 minutes. We made our 3rd and final sub on 88 minutes, so it wasn't felt at the time that Gosling's injury was that bad. In fact Moyes quote after the match was: "Dan has a sore knee and it doesn't look good".
I have to disagree with GrandOldTeam on this one, to an extent. I'm not saying Everton are whiter than white and never do anything wrong, and there have been plenty of times over the years when they haven't served a player well leading to their departure, but in the case of Gosling, I think the club were hard done to. Gosling owed us.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/5350257/gosling-set-for-new-deal
'Gosling set for new deal' - May 2009.
"I have another season to go on my contract and have been offered an extension," said the 19-year-old, who scored the winning goal in Everton's FA Cup tie against Liverpool in February. "Everything seems fine with it and there's plenty of time on my side. It's just a question of when I do sign it but I'm more than happy to see things through. "This is a top-five club in the Premier League and there's no other club I'd rather be at."
March 2010, he was ruled out for 9 months with a bad knee injury. Despite his contract coming due in the summer 2010, the club stood by him, and offered to nearly double his wages, from £8,000 a week to £15,000 a week.
Bear in mind, at this point he was aged 20, and had made a grand total of just 18 starts & 19 sub appearances (most as a last 5 mins sub), scoring 6 goals, over 3 seasons.
He went to Newcastle for £25000 a week, exploiting a legal loophole that allowed him to leave for free. He deprived his boyhood club Plymouth Argyle of a sell on fee. During the following season, Plymouth went into administration and nearly went bust.
At Newcastle, he didn't make his debut until January 2011 (as a last minute sub vs Sunderland). The following month he needed another knee operation and was out the rest of the season. He then missed 4 months of the following 11/12 season as well.
He made 5 starts and 19 sub appearances for Newcastle in 4 years there, nearly as many appearances as at Everton over 3 years, meaning he started more games for Everton than Newcastle.
Given his injury was a bad one, and we offered to stand by him whilst he rehabilitated himself, and also given the fact that his time at Newcastle showed how bad his injury was, maybe he should have given us more in time.
From a purely selfish point of view, in his shoes and with the benefit of foresight that his career was actually badly threatened and he needed to earn as much money as possible now in case it ended soon (he earned £5m at Newcastle in wages over 4 years), then maybe he may have made the right choice. Everton wasn't exactly offering him peanuts though - £15,000 a week over 4 years at Everton would have amounted to £3.12m, not exactly that bad a deal.
Gosling's injury vs Wolves was a weird one - he came on as an 83rd minute sub so was only on the pitch for the last 7 minutes. We made our 3rd and final sub on 88 minutes, so it wasn't felt at the time that Gosling's injury was that bad. In fact Moyes quote after the match was: "Dan has a sore knee and it doesn't look good".
I have to disagree with GrandOldTeam on this one, to an extent. I'm not saying Everton are whiter than white and never do anything wrong, and there have been plenty of times over the years when they haven't served a player well leading to their departure, but in the case of Gosling, I think the club were hard done to. Gosling owed us.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/5350257/gosling-set-for-new-deal
'Gosling set for new deal' - May 2009.
"I have another season to go on my contract and have been offered an extension," said the 19-year-old, who scored the winning goal in Everton's FA Cup tie against Liverpool in February. "Everything seems fine with it and there's plenty of time on my side. It's just a question of when I do sign it but I'm more than happy to see things through. "This is a top-five club in the Premier League and there's no other club I'd rather be at."
March 2010, he was ruled out for 9 months with a bad knee injury. Despite his contract coming due in the summer 2010, the club stood by him, and offered to nearly double his wages, from £8,000 a week to £15,000 a week.
Bear in mind, at this point he was aged 20, and had made a grand total of just 18 starts & 19 sub appearances (most as a last 5 mins sub), scoring 6 goals, over 3 seasons.
He went to Newcastle for £25000 a week, exploiting a legal loophole that allowed him to leave for free. He deprived his boyhood club Plymouth Argyle of a sell on fee. During the following season, Plymouth went into administration and nearly went bust.
At Newcastle, he didn't make his debut until January 2011 (as a last minute sub vs Sunderland). The following month he needed another knee operation and was out the rest of the season. He then missed 4 months of the following 11/12 season as well.
He made 5 starts and 19 sub appearances for Newcastle in 4 years there, nearly as many appearances as at Everton over 3 years, meaning he started more games for Everton than Newcastle.
Given his injury was a bad one, and we offered to stand by him whilst he rehabilitated himself, and also given the fact that his time at Newcastle showed how bad his injury was, maybe he should have given us more in time.
From a purely selfish point of view, in his shoes and with the benefit of foresight that his career was actually badly threatened and he needed to earn as much money as possible now in case it ended soon (he earned £5m at Newcastle in wages over 4 years), then maybe he may have made the right choice. Everton wasn't exactly offering him peanuts though - £15,000 a week over 4 years at Everton would have amounted to £3.12m, not exactly that bad a deal.
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Gosling injury March 2010? So Rathbone left two months later...
He owed himself first.
He had two choices.
1) Hope his injury doesn't end his career (or severely limit it) and wait on a contract from Everton.
2) Sign a 25k a week/4 year deal/signing on fee elsewhere
It's rare, but on this occasion I have it on good authority that we were waiting on his fitness before committing to any offer. I've said all this before, and it proved sensible from the club, it plagued him since - justifying his decision if anything. At least he got one big pay day before ending up at the Bournemouth's of the world.
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