Stadium Thread - ALL Kirkby/Stadium Discussion Here

[gordonjblair]

well i see the anti kirkby brigade are happy about this latest news.

well done, looks like your getting what you wanted.

now we have wasted millions (regardless of blame ) are no nearer a new stadium , have nothing in the pipeline , look an even worst investment and kirkby will remain a n area with poverty issues.

"careful what you wish for , you just might get it " could have been said to both sides and no matter what the outcome we were on a loser.
but by far the lesser of 2 evils was kirkby going ahead.

so what now keioc ,lcc and co ? or are you as i predict gonna realise there isnt much of an alternative and then get on kenwrights back (or kirkby council in the case of residents)?
i can get on his back just as much as the next angry fan but he must be sick of the "wa wa wa we want this , but we dont wont that , wa wa wa why havent i got anything " attitude of some fans.

Thing is, the fact of Planning being denied, or scaled down will have nothing to do with dissenting voices around EFC.

The Stadium is not the reason the development got called in, the size of the retail element is.

The Stadium isn't the reason that the development will only likely go ahead on a much smaller scale, the proposed retail and it's impact on other regional centres is.

KEIOC haven't called the development in, and they haven't canned it (whether they would like to claim credit for it or not).

But what they have done is warned that this was likely to happen for the last 18months.

So for anybody who wants to have a bit of a moan and a whinge about how much money has been wasted on this endeavour, they're probably the least deserving target - if the Club had listened, the money wouldn't be down the swanee.

I'm not that disappointed tbh, because I think the conditions and constraints placed on the Club and new Stadium would have made it difficult for us to gain any real return on the investment.

ah well, we've had 3 or 4 proposals in the last 10 years, lets hope the next is more suitable.

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

well i see the anti kirkby brigade are happy about this latest news.

well done, looks like your getting what you wanted.

now we have wasted millions (regardless of blame ) are no nearer a new stadium , have nothing in the pipeline , look an even worst investment and kirkby will remain a n area with poverty issues.

"careful what you wish for , you just might get it " could have been said to both sides and no matter what the outcome we were on a loser.
but by far the lesser of 2 evils was kirkby going ahead.

so what now keioc ,lcc and co ? or are you as i predict gonna realise there isnt much of an alternative and then get on kenwrights back (or kirkby council in the case of residents)?
i can get on his back just as much as the next angry fan but he must be sick of the "wa wa wa we want this , but we dont wont that , wa wa wa why havent i got anything " attitude of some fans.

Excellent post, you can see the articles now on the anti bill sites (you know who you are!)
Where is our new stadium? Boo Hoo
Its Bills fault! Boo Hoo
Why no big signings Bill! Boo Hoo
Where is the investment? Boo Hoo

Hang your head in shame if this goes the wrong way

If the decision goes against the club meaning that time and money has been wasted, then that would be down to no one but Bill Kenwright. He's the one agreeing to exclusivity deals pursuing this. Supporters (pro and anti the proposed move) would have every right to point the finger at him.

I certainly wont be blaming Bill, i will be blaming the 'humble' blues who against it, i will be blaming a corrupt LCC

 

[Goat]

It it doesnt happen its down to 1 man and 1 man only, stand up Bill Kenwright. To even blame a no mark group like KEOIC is silly, they have had no bearing on any of this, but maybe when it gets rejected they can channel some effort into "plan b" and hopefully Kenwright will sell the club at a loss and FO.

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

It it doesnt happen its down to 1 man and 1 man only, stand up Bill Kenwright. To even blame a no mark group like KEOIC is silly, they have had no bearing on any of this, but maybe when it gets rejected they can channel some effort into "plan b" and hopefully Kenwright will sell the club at a loss and FO.

Why would bill sell the club at a loss, would you? No neither would i

 

[Goat]

Why would bill sell the club at a loss, would you? No neither would i

If i loved the club and i wanted it to succeed of course i would, i mean how much did he pay for the club? Buttons compared to whats its worth now. When i say "at a loss", i mean for below its value, what ever he sells for he will make a hefty profit from his intial outlay.

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

If i loved the club and i wanted it to succeed of course i would, i mean how much did he pay for the club? Buttons compared to whats its worth now. When i say "at a loss", i mean for below its value, what ever he sells for he will make a hefty profit from his intial outlay.

1st and foremost he is a business man and a damn good one otherwise he wouldnt have been able to buy us in the 1st place. I wouldnt sell for a loss and i doubt Bill will. So well done lads in keeping Bill, that what you wanted isnt it?

 

[Goat]

1st and foremost he is a business man and a damn good one otherwise he wouldnt have been able to buy us in the 1st place. I wouldnt sell for a loss and i doubt Bill will. So well done lads in keeping Bill, that what you wanted isnt it?

He has possibly the worst business mind i have witnessed in my life. And i thought he was boys pen, loves this club. If he sold tomorrow for £50m he would make a profit.

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

He has possibly the worst business mind i have witnessed in my life. And i thought he was boys pen, loves this club. If he sold tomorrow for £50m he would make a profit.

Yeh thats why is a millionaire because he sh*te at business!

 

[Goat]

Yeh thats why is a millionaire because he sh*te at business!

He made his money thru producing West End plays, hardly Wall Street is it mate?

 

[kenada_blue]

Thing is, the fact of Planning being denied, or scaled down will have nothing to do with dissenting voices around EFC.

The Stadium is not the reason the development got called in, the size of the retail element is.

The Stadium isn't the reason that the development will only likely go ahead on a much smaller scale, the proposed retail and it's impact on other regional centres is.

KEIOC haven't called the development in, and they haven't canned it (whether they would like to claim credit for it or not).

But what they have done is warned that this was likely to happen for the last 18months.

So for anybody who wants to have a bit of a moan and a whinge about how much money has been wasted on this endeavour, they're probably the least deserving target - if the Club had listened, the money wouldn't be down the swanee.

I'm not that disappointed tbh, because I think the conditions and constraints placed on the Club and new Stadium would have made it difficult for us to gain any real return on the investment.

ah well, we've had 3 or 4 proposals in the last 10 years, lets hope the next is more suitable.

But I'd argue keioc always wanted it to get canned because they were against it from the off minus any real specific info because it was just in kirkby

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

He made his money thru producing West End plays, hardly Wall Street is it mate?

So its easy to make a success on the west end is it? How many plays have you had on?

 

[Goat]

So its easy to make a success on the west end is it? How many plays have you had on?

Oh Davey Moyes, Davey, Davey Moyes.

Thats what i do, right there ^^^^^^, im a superfan and i do it well, Kenwright is a super producer he does that well. But hes utter crap at business. We both are.

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

Oh Davey Moyes, Davey, Davey Moyes.

Thats what i do, right there ^^^^^^, im a superfan and i do it well, Kenwright is a super producer he does that well. But hes utter crap at business. We both are.

That crap he has 1 of the most successful plays of all time.!

 

[coyney]

Thing is, the fact of Planning being denied, or scaled down will have nothing to do with dissenting voices around EFC.

The Stadium is not the reason the development got called in, the size of the retail element is.

The Stadium isn't the reason that the development will only likely go ahead on a much smaller scale, the proposed retail and it's impact on other regional centres is.

KEIOC haven't called the development in, and they haven't canned it (whether they would like to claim credit for it or not).

But what they have done is warned that this was likely to happen for the last 18months.

So for anybody who wants to have a bit of a moan and a whinge about how much money has been wasted on this endeavour, they're probably the least deserving target - if the Club had listened, the money wouldn't be down the swanee.

I'm not that disappointed tbh, because I think the conditions and constraints placed on the Club and new Stadium would have made it difficult for us to gain any real return on the investment.

ah well, we've had 3 or 4 proposals in the last 10 years, lets hope the next is more suitable.

At last a man who knows what he is talking about well done that man(Gordon)

 

[Animal Farm]

Quote:

Tesco/Everton have been shown to be presenting figures and statements on travel which don't reflect the information they were given.

http://inquiry.knowsley.gov.uk/Proof of Evidence/WR-HARRISON-1.doc

Add this new letter from Rosie Cooper MP for West Lancs

http://inquiry.knowsley.gov.uk/Proof of Evidence/WR-RCO-2 Submission Final (3).doc

And Colin F (of KEIOC) is hinting at a major story about to break too....


Its not going to happen.