Everton are bigger than any manager any player. We the fans are the club.

[D410]

I think him going will be the catalyst that f*cks off the board, well I hope anyway mate.

I,d love that to happen but I can,t see it, they will milk the TV deal, few links of paint and keep the jurno,s on side.

Bill has nothing to fear because he knows if Moyes goes and the fans did,nt revolt then, they never will.

10 more years of Bill....it,s a prison sentence for the old and the young.

 

[noharmdone]

I think he's waiting to see if we have Champions League football to be honest - i actually think he'll go as soon as it's evident that we wont have, and are out of the cup.

Erm.. We ain't finishing 4th.. Surely that's clear already ?

 

[Allezfan]

I think he's waiting to see if we have Champions League football to be honest - i actually think he'll go as soon as it's evident that we wont have, and are out of the cup.

That's his job, though.

The manager gets judged on the performance on the pitch, the manager doesn't get to do the judging.

It's like me going up to my boss and saying I either do my job well or I walk.

 

[BoysInBlue]

Moyes thinks he has us over a barrel and that's the thing doing my head in.

The thing is about our greatest managers is that they finished the job and won things. He hasn't. So all this putting things off to think is taking the piss out of every single one of us. I'd rather he stayed but it's like having a bird who thinks she's all that trying to dictate the relationship - on you go girl, I'll end up slotting one of your mates.

Spot on, and the other thing I don't like is that 'he's going to have a look out there and see what's on offer'. Translated that means, 'if nothing better comes along, he'll stay with us'. Gee, thanks Davey. It really is our honour.

The guy is a great manager and has been brilliant for us, and I'd like him to stay. But we (the fans) have been equally good to him. I don't want him to stay begrudgingly because there is nothing better; I want him to stay here because he wants to be our manager and is totally committed.

 

[Brennan]

He's been offered a contract at the club, something 90% of managers would kill for.

You either say yes or say no. This whole 'I'll stick around for the time being and see if anything better comes along and then I'll deign to stay with you if it doesn't' is insulting.

So is Fellaini being insulting saying he might leave if we don't get CL football ?

Moyes is seeing out his current contract and has said quite openly he'll decide on signing a new one based on our situation at the end of the season. Bit weird if you consider honesty to be insulting.

 

[Brennan]

Spot on, and the other thing I don't like is that 'he's going to have a look out there and see what's on offer'. Translated that means, 'if nothing better comes along, he'll stay with us'. Gee, thanks Davey. It really is our honour.

The guy is a great manager and has been brilliant for us, and I'd like him to stay. But we (the fans) have been equally good to him. I don't want him to stay begrudgingly because there is nothing better; I want him to stay here because he wants to be our manager and is totally committed.

Yeah, the fans have been equally good to him like the midway point of last season when the majority on this board wanted him sacked (including myself)

Lets not act like we've been lovely to him, he gets called a t**t pretty much every week on this site.

 

[noharmdone]

So is Fellaini being insulting saying he might leave if we don't get CL football ?

Moyes is seeing out his current contract and has said quite openly he'll decide on signing a new one based on our situation at the end of the season. Bit weird if you consider honesty to be insulting.

Fellaini can't leave.. He will be sold for money.
There lies the difference.

 

[Allezfan]

So is Fellaini being insulting saying he might leave if we don't get CL football ?

Moyes is seeing out his current contract and has said quite openly he'll decide on signing a new one based on our situation at the end of the season. Bit weird if you consider honesty to be insulting.

I think the way he considers whether he remains employed at his club his choice rather than the clubs and that the club should accept any terms he cares for insulting.

If I call you a ginger swine who I despise, that's insulting. The fact that it's also honest doesn't get me off the hook there. It just means I also think insulting thoughts as well as say insulting things.

 

[Brennan]

Fellaini can't leave.. He will be sold for money.
There lies the difference.

That doesn't make it any less insulting though, does it ?

 

[Brennan]

I think the way he considers whether he remains employed at his club his choice rather than the clubs and that the club should accept any terms he cares for insulting.

If I call you a ginger swine who I despise, that's insulting. The fact that it's also honest doesn't get me off the hook there. It just means I also think insulting thoughts as well as say insulting things.

But it is his choice. If you don't think the board should be allowing him to wait until the summer then that's an issue you have with them, not him.

 

[Allezfan]

But it is his choice. If you don't think the board should be allowing him to wait until the summer then that's an issue you have with them, not him.

I think the board are weak to accept it, I think it's insulting of him to want it that way.

 

[Brennan]

I think the board are weak to accept it, I think it's insulting of him to want it that way.

Why should he sign a contract not knowing where we'll be next season though ? European competition is a big deal if you're a manager.

And surely you want a manager who is hungry and wants to manage a team in Europe, rather than one who will just sign a new contract and take the pay rise ?

 

[BoysInBlue]

Yeah, the fans have been equally good to him like the midway point of last season when the majority on this board wanted him sacked (including myself)

Lets not act like we've been lovely to him, he gets called a t**t pretty much every week on this site.

Yeah - this site, but with all due respect, it's not the entire Everton fanbase, nor even always representative of the match-going Blues.

If it was, the 70% of people who want Kenwright out in the poll on here wouldn't be clapping his face at the match.

And there would have been a lot more Blues on the Blue Union marches outside the ground, instead of the ones who stayed in the pubs sneering at the marchers.

 

[Allezfan]

Why should he sign a contract not knowing where we'll be next season though ? European competition is a big deal if you're a manager.

And surely you want a manager who is hungry and wants to manage a team in Europe, rather than one who will just sign a new contract and take the pay rise ?

It's his job to get us into europe.

If you believe that's on the pitch matters he's looking at: we're in this bizarre situation where he's putting the pressure on the players to win enough games to convince him it's worth staying.

If you don't, then he's basically saying if someone else wants me I'm off, if they don't I'll stay with you.

How is that not insulting arrogance in terms of taking the club for granted?

 

[Brennan]

Yeah - this site, but with all due respect, it's not the entire Everton fanbase, nor even always representative of the match-going Blues.

If it was, the 70% of people who want Kenwright out in the poll on here wouldn't be clapping his face at the match.

I hear plenty of criticism of Moyes at the match mate, to act as if we've been ace to him and he's somehow taking a s**t on us is skewing the truth really.

I'd honestly be more concerned if Moyes just signed a new deal every time without kicking up a fuss or doing what he has done, this at least shows he's arsed about where the club is at next season and isn't just happy to carry on finishing 7th. That's the kind of ambition the board haven't shown once.