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Joao Moutinho
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i've never seen us win anything, i would give anything to be at wembley this season and see us lift the fa cup
at the moment i'd prefer it to fourth, ideally i'd want both but if i had to pick i'd say the cup
at the moment i'd prefer it to fourth, ideally i'd want both but if i had to pick i'd say the cup
Woolly Blue
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Probably true for Spurs who have genuine aspirations for a top four place. Delusional bollox for Liverpool who's best chance of European football next season was a Cup Final against a top four team.
Maestro Haze
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Yeah some were, but that's dodging the problems and issues that we lost the game. Because we put out an experienced line-up and played some of the most ****e footbal I've ever seen.
The spurs and red ****e fan boys can use that as a smoke screen all they want but I think they'll regret it in the end.
*nods in agreement*
electricblue
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The fact is you do concentrate on the League more when you get knocked out of the Cup - BECAUSE YOU'VE NO CHOICE.
But it doesn't necessarily equate to playing better, and often can mean quite the opposite.
But it doesn't necessarily equate to playing better, and often can mean quite the opposite.
toffeejack
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all bollocks this - they both fielded pretty much their full strength team (RS more so). if they genuinly wanted to go out of the cups they would have put their under 16's on or something. why would liverpool play suarez and spurs play bale if they really weren't arsed? liverpool go to russia next in europa, surely that's a game you'd rather rest your key players for instead of a home tie vs everton. also in their case, they aren't realistic contenders for 4th and europe next season is beyond them now unless they make a major recovery in the league to finish above both us & arsenal/spurs (aint gonna happen).
If it's true then it's pathetic that all the millions and all the fitness regimes these players go through that they can't handle an extra 4 games a year - but, like i said, it's a poor excuse for being knocked out embarassingly
If it's true then it's pathetic that all the millions and all the fitness regimes these players go through that they can't handle an extra 4 games a year - but, like i said, it's a poor excuse for being knocked out embarassingly
cardinal18
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Here's my take on it all:
Fans need to wake up, it's not the 1980's anymore! The FA Cup and Carling Cup are simply not what they used to be, and the bigger teams view them as more of an annoyance to their league and CL hopes. We as fans may not like it, and it's sad for British football, but it's the truth! These cup competitions only become SLIGHTLY relevant if a team hasn't won anything for a long time (like Arsenal - and even then Arsene Wenger doesn't seem arsed about getting knocked out of them early, cause he is then able to focus on top 4 more so than the other teams which is why he achieves it every single year)! And this is crucial to Arsenal's long-term growth and stability!
IMO you should only take the cups remotely seriously if you've got the squad, otherwise it can do serious damage to your league form, as proven numerous times - look at Liverpool last year, won the Carling Cup and got to the FA Cup final but finished 8th in the league as a result, and watching Pool last year it's obvious the cups had an effect! United and City can take them somewhat seriously cause they've got the squad, but even then they chose not to the vast majority of the time because they view them as a hindrance. E.g. the last time United won the FA Cup was in 04, and if they wanted to win it again they could have EASILY, but they simply just cant be arsed with it anymore cause it's a s*** competition! They only field their full strength team in the cup when they're playing a City or something.
So yeah, they are distractions until you reach the semis, and once you reach the final stages in April/May you try to rest your players in the league game, which has proven to be costly to league form. No matter how much you try to sugar coat it the likelihood of you doing well in the league are MUCH better if you're not in any cups - which lets face it is the most important thing! So the sooner you are out the better!
I say this because there are ACTUALLY no benefits for winning the cups! Absolutely none....contrary to what we may want to believe! It's a nice little bonus but nothing else! Barely any prize money, and you don't get into the CL for winning them. I know you get into the Europa but that's a rubbish competition too! It's all about the CL cause that's where the money's at and that's where the big players want to play! If you got into the CL, then great, go all out for the cups, but sadly that's not the case. Mid table/average players may enjoy winning the FA Cup, cause that's all they might ever have the chance to win, but quality players like Bale and Fellaini aren't gonna decide their fate on if their team wins the FA Cup this year, they just want CL, and clubs need to dictate to what their big players want otherwise they end up leaving and that's when you're screwed! Even the likes of Birmingham and Portsmouth have won cups recently FFS, and where did that get them? Relegation! There's just no benefit to these s***ty cups anymore, and it's all the FA's fault for not making them desirable/rewarding enough to win!
Fans need to wake up, it's not the 1980's anymore! The FA Cup and Carling Cup are simply not what they used to be, and the bigger teams view them as more of an annoyance to their league and CL hopes. We as fans may not like it, and it's sad for British football, but it's the truth! These cup competitions only become SLIGHTLY relevant if a team hasn't won anything for a long time (like Arsenal - and even then Arsene Wenger doesn't seem arsed about getting knocked out of them early, cause he is then able to focus on top 4 more so than the other teams which is why he achieves it every single year)! And this is crucial to Arsenal's long-term growth and stability!
IMO you should only take the cups remotely seriously if you've got the squad, otherwise it can do serious damage to your league form, as proven numerous times - look at Liverpool last year, won the Carling Cup and got to the FA Cup final but finished 8th in the league as a result, and watching Pool last year it's obvious the cups had an effect! United and City can take them somewhat seriously cause they've got the squad, but even then they chose not to the vast majority of the time because they view them as a hindrance. E.g. the last time United won the FA Cup was in 04, and if they wanted to win it again they could have EASILY, but they simply just cant be arsed with it anymore cause it's a s*** competition! They only field their full strength team in the cup when they're playing a City or something.
So yeah, they are distractions until you reach the semis, and once you reach the final stages in April/May you try to rest your players in the league game, which has proven to be costly to league form. No matter how much you try to sugar coat it the likelihood of you doing well in the league are MUCH better if you're not in any cups - which lets face it is the most important thing! So the sooner you are out the better!
I say this because there are ACTUALLY no benefits for winning the cups! Absolutely none....contrary to what we may want to believe! It's a nice little bonus but nothing else! Barely any prize money, and you don't get into the CL for winning them. I know you get into the Europa but that's a rubbish competition too! It's all about the CL cause that's where the money's at and that's where the big players want to play! If you got into the CL, then great, go all out for the cups, but sadly that's not the case. Mid table/average players may enjoy winning the FA Cup, cause that's all they might ever have the chance to win, but quality players like Bale and Fellaini aren't gonna decide their fate on if their team wins the FA Cup this year, they just want CL, and clubs need to dictate to what their big players want otherwise they end up leaving and that's when you're screwed! Even the likes of Birmingham and Portsmouth have won cups recently FFS, and where did that get them? Relegation! There's just no benefit to these s***ty cups anymore, and it's all the FA's fault for not making them desirable/rewarding enough to win!
JamesBT
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Cocaine is a hell of a drug....
cardinal18
Player Valuation: £225k
Great reply! I take it you'd rather win a Cup than finish 4th? Youre choice mate......all the best 
JamesBT
Player Valuation: £30m
Great reply! I take it you'd rather win a Cup than finish 4th? Youre choice mate......all the best
When you look back in history do you get judged on 4th place finishes or Trophies? It is an easier route into Europe than the league. FA Cup is huge. Man u could have easily won it? Gimme a break.
icburns
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This. Always will be. There's something special about cup footy.
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