2025/26 David Moyes

[ToffeeScot]

I'd be very surprised if he gets canned this summer. I think the board will be more than happy for another season of stability and all the riches the PL brings.

But I wouldnt be giving him much to spend. I'd tell him he'll need to generate his funds from his poor signings last summer and the players he hasn't used anywhere near enough.

That's what worries me about keeping him for another season. We aren't going to be able to keep pumping money into transfers without sales and we have already wasted half of last year's budget on signings Moyes hasn't played. It's risky to then do the same thing summer and then next summer we have a manager who will play every signing but doesn't have as big a transfer kitty and is stuck with the lumps that Moyes didn't play or use.

 

[davek]

Moyes for months has been talking up Europe, then when it gets to the crunch he wouldn't entertain talk of it in his press conference the other day.

That tells you all you need to know about Moyes when expectations are heightened.

He'll always be that manager who recoils from taking the big step forward.

 

[jceverton]

And what if they do?

Hes still spent money.

If you spend money you get from work, do you count that as not spending it because you didnt have it before you got paid?

That makes no sense. They’ve got a negative net spend over his management. That’s the context in which he’s operated and that’s what’s relevant.

 

[maccavennie]

That's what worries me about keeping him for another season. We aren't going to be able to keep pumping money into transfers without sales and we have already wasted half of last year's budget on signings Moyes hasn't played. It's risky to then do the same thing summer and then next summer we have a manager who will play every signing but doesn't have as big a transfer kitty and is stuck with the lumps that Moyes didn't play or use.

I think the only signing he would replace given half a chance is another striker. I think he'd be more than happy to continue with the same full backs, same midfield and same wide options.

Some serious questions need to be asked about his squad rotation if/when we don't make Europe because all eyes should be on him.

I certainly wouldn't be confident in him identifying 100m worth of players. Give him 25m and anything else past that should come through player sales from players he doesn't play.

 

[blueblood]

Harrison Armstrong is another bizarre case. He put in some very good performances, particularly that Villa away game. He was then played as a left winger in the Man United game, predictably didn’t offer much and hasn’t been seen since.
Can’t help but feel he’d have been better off staying at Preston where he was playing week in week out in his best position.

 

[jceverton]

That's what worries me about keeping him for another season. We aren't going to be able to keep pumping money into transfers without sales and we have already wasted half of last year's budget on signings Moyes hasn't played. It's risky to then do the same thing summer and then next summer we have a manager who will play every signing but doesn't have as big a transfer kitty and is stuck with the lumps that Moyes didn't play or use.

This is why we shouldn’t have let him dictate his terms. We should’ve held firm and said we’re sticking with DOF model, take the job or leave it. Instead TFG folded.

 

[blueboy72]

I'd be very surprised if he gets canned this summer. I think the board will be more than happy for another season of stability and all the riches the PL brings.

But I wouldnt be giving him much to spend. I'd tell him he'll need to generate his funds from his poor signings last summer and the players he hasn't used anywhere near enough.

TFG haven’t come in just to survive, we’ve done that for 70yrs

And I wouldn’t let Moyes spend what he brings in. He need binning and the committee need to get a manager who’s on the same page with their strategy moving forward

 

[jceverton]

Harrison Armstrong is another bizarre case. He put in some very good performances, particularly that Villa away game. He was then played as a left winger in the Man United game, predictably didn’t offer much and hasn’t been seen since.
Can’t help but feel he’d have been better off staying at Preston where he was playing week in week out in his best position.

Yep and if Moyes doesn’t start playing the lad, he’ll be moving on. His agent has already had conversations with Moyes.

 

[jackyboy]

Bottom half would be quite something after potentially going two points behind the reds last week. Never ever change Everton.

 

[ToffeeScot]

Shows how silly these things are sometimes, doesn't it?

Kind of, but at the same time O'Neil managed to keep Bournemouth up and then got sacked. Everyone thought that was a mistake and then they hired Iraola and they've been much better for it. Sometimes there is method to the madness.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Moyes for months has been talking up Europe, then when it gets to the crunch he wouldn't entertain talk of it in his press conference the other day.

That tells you all you need to know about Moyes when expectations are heightened.

He'll always be that manager who recoils from taking the big step forward.

When the season came down to the wire he’s absolutely flapped it as usual. 1 point from Brentford Liverpool and West Ham when then first two were in rubbish form and West Ham were under a ton of pressure.

We had a free swing but played like the relegation team in all 3.

Moyes will see that as only 1 point behind par though, Everton should only really get away draws and obviously aren’t good enough to ever get anything v Liverpool so he’ll have had us down for getting 2 points from those games and will be perplexed why fans are disappointed with 1.

 

[jceverton]

I'd be very surprised if he gets canned this summer. I think the board will be more than happy for another season of stability and all the riches the PL brings.

But I wouldnt be giving him much to spend. I'd tell him he'll need to generate his funds from his poor signings last summer and the players he hasn't used anywhere near enough.

No I would avoid that like the plague, the guy will end up selling Armstrong. If you don’t trust him to spend money wisely then you’ve got to bin him off and get a new manager in.

 

[FrannyJeffersLeftEar]

Nothing has changed with him, since his last stint. if you want a steady side, he's your man. If you want a bit of ambition, then roll the dice on another manager, because Moyes will never change.

 

[hallamblue]

Chickens have come home to roost this season unfortunately. Can only run from it for so long.

I don’t agree that “mentality” is the issue. We score a lot of late goals, and in fact our whole season has been built on scrappy points won away from home. The spirit in the team is the difference between being mid-table and being Spurs right now.

The problem is the team has too many poor players within it. This is due to poor recruitment and poor squad management through the season. Both are at the feet of the manager.

We don’t buy a right back, so a promising CB in O’Brien has to play there and a fading Tarkowski plays every minute. Or our best midfielder Garner gets pulled out of that spot to fill in.

We botch the RW signing and Moyes refuses to try to bring Dibling along through the year. So when we’re chasing a goal the only attacking player he fancies to bring on is George (who has barely shown more than Dibling) and so our best attacking player Ndiaye is moved out of position and neutered.

It also means McNeil, who was supposed to be sold four months ago, starts every game and struggles horribly.

We don’t sign a first team LB and Moyes refuses to try to bring Aznou along so the worst player in the league Mykolenko plays every minute, and costs us points every other week.

We botch the striker signing and expect someone like Barry to play in the exact same way as Beto, when they are completely different players.

Rohl can’t get a look in, Armstrong has disappeared. Alcaraz is thrown the odd bone when he is fit. Gueye plays every single game at 47 years old regardless of form or fitness.

Every little mistake made since July has added up and caused a ripple effect across the pitch. We are now relying on our handful of remaining good players to do it almost single-handedly (KDH is doing his best on that front) while relying on miraculous late winners and equalisers. It’s not sustainable, and it has flipped.

Either Moyes needs to approach this summer and next season entirely differently, or we’ll need a different manager. Because the same thing will happen if we do the same things again.

This is overlooked by the Moyes fans. If KDH hadn't had a very good season we'd be in relegation trouble. I wouldn't trust Moyes to improve it for next season as he's ostracised our new signings and devalued them in the process so we either sell them and lose half of our money or we get a manager in who will play them, and move the club forward.

 

[Blue Parkender]

We played better football in Moyes' last season than in Martinez's first.

Don't know were you get that from. Martinez's first season was the best football I've seen since the 80s. Entertainment is the name of the game and what we get now is not entertaining.