JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £50m
I bet his hoop was blowing like those pan pipes watching the 1st half on Sat.
Yea was gobsmacked at the R word being the first thing he said. Unbelievable, but not surprising. I also find all this talk about him letting off the handbrake when we get to 40 points. Never done that before imo. Let’s see if he does
Words don't get you points, results do.
hippopotamus
Player Valuation: £2.5m
That's what he said after the game:
“I don’t want to come in here and say we’re trying to avoid relegation. I don’t want to do that because Everton have had too much bad news and bad publicity, so I’d rather come in here and say we’re having a go at Europe.
“You might laugh at me in a few weeks’ time and say, ‘How stupid was I’, but I’d rather be positive and try to make the players know that is what I want. They do know, they know as well and they are well aware that we’d like to do that.”
hippopotamus
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
It's more supporters who continue to mock the impatient pissy pants fans who are holding a grudge from over ten years ago and refuse to admit that Moyes is actually doing a good job because his name is David Moyes and they're still fuming that he put a bid in for Baines and Fellaini and left us for Man United.It’s weird this thread. Supporters who won’t hear any bad word said against Moyes & believe we can’t change him at any point because we will mess it up & get relegated (as though Mosh & Uncle Bill are still running the show) against the polar opposite arguing he should go now highlighting the various deficiencies they see.
The reality is he is doing a very good job to get us to where we are now after the recent seasons issues.
It is also a reality that he isn’t a top elite manager although highly competent & experienced in the premier league.
It also a reality that he isn’t immortal. You can’t wheel him into the changing room in his eighties telling the team to keep it tight
The question should be at what point it maybe appropriate to change & if that decision is made then who.
Clearly the first pinchpoint is this summer when Moyes probably either needs his contract extending or a new manager appointing. I assume TFG would be giving this some thought, especially in the knowledge that there will be a number of high achieving managers out of contract this summer who potentially won’t be available thereafter.
Considerations could be the extent of TFG’s short/medium term ambitions, where we are at the end of the season, what Moyes may want & if any high profile manager may be interested in joining & what players if any they may attract.
I don’t think posters pointing out his merits or deficiencies is going to be a significant factor so it would seem pointless to continue going around in circles arguing about them, although some people may find it entertaining to do so!
It's just sad, sad bitter men who can't let go of the past.
There are a few genuine reasons to actually be unhappy with his performance. They're the cup exits, the home form, the team selection and some shouts about the style of play. There's some fair criticism to be levelled at him there but that's not what's driving it all, nope it's all just bitter middle aged men holding grudges.
Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
There's plenty who wouldn't have taken it if you'd have told them the man behind it is David Moyes.
They hate him that much for hurting their feelings the first time he left.
Don't even think this is the anti-Moyes brigade, more so that people have been saying he's always been negative and will always be and apparently were wrong, whereas he's still saying "we might be relegated here lads, vital points to survive" while this is the league table at the time of him saying that:
God forbid an ounce of actual positivity is shown without first bringing down the mood for no reason. Considering the age we're in and the fact we allegedly have PRs, maybe they should've talked to him or something?
I'm not in the Moyes out camp at all but would prefer it if we stop this "it's as best as we can do" nonsense honestly. We knew his limitations when he came here and it's 100% okay to criticise things like the home form, the cup exits (as expected sadly), some baffling team selections/subs (or lack of), forfeiting at least 45 min a game for the last 3 months, keeping with the knife to a gunfight talk in the press, etc., as well as say he's done a wholly fantastic job to keep us at a better level than we were before (which was, again, expected and wholeheartedly welcomed I think, as he is a good manager).
Plus, it's always the fans who are wrong.
They prefer 'Look. LOOK. He said relegation'
Daytripper
Player Valuation: £50m
I didn’t realise how much Tottenham have spent, they have regressed in the league so much as well
Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
Are you happy with the results so far? I don't see why anyone wouldn't be.
Yes, there's fair grumbles to be had but no manager we were replacing Dyche with was going to be perfect. He's doing an excellent job and most of the reasons I see posters upset with him are because of long memories and sins committed in his first spell.
I wish people would let that go and focus on the now and the very good job he's done without constantly moaning about him having a glass ceiling or knives to gunfights.
Who's arsed? We are in the top half and pushing for Europe. As long as he keeps improving our league positions any of the posters hoping he gets moved on in the summer are probably going to be very upset seeing him take preseason training.
BackRow PE6
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Great to see a number of players plus Moyes come out over the last few weeks to say Europe is the goal.
8th in the table, one of the meanest defences in the league, a pretty much fully fit squad finally and excellent away form - we have the platform to achieve Europe in my view.
All rests on how much we can sort ourselves out in the final third. Be bolder at home and play to see teams off rather than nick one. Moyes has to try to deliver that over the remainder of the season
8th in the table, one of the meanest defences in the league, a pretty much fully fit squad finally and excellent away form - we have the platform to achieve Europe in my view.
All rests on how much we can sort ourselves out in the final third. Be bolder at home and play to see teams off rather than nick one. Moyes has to try to deliver that over the remainder of the season
Oh no. I can see Carragher getting on his high horse about our net spend being so low. He'll demand a 20 points reduction.
