2025/26 Adam Aznou

Nymzee said:
Nah, even though Moyes doesn't use him I don't think he'd risk just 1 LB in the whole squad (and academy)
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You’re probably right but Moyes’ "there's strong competition (at left back)" comment (mad thing to say like) doesn’t bode well for the lad.

Would be nice to see him get minutes here and there out on the left wing though.
 
davek said:
The simple calculation to be made is this:

do we benefit more on the left by having Aznou there with his attacking game or do we benefit more by having Mykolenko (theoretically) offering more stability by staying in his own half.

Most people will probably go with the former option and can see the knock on benefit to Grealish.

A positive manager goes for that option too. We have a negative manager with an ingrained bias against young players.

So Aznou wont be used much more this season...and, Moyes being Moyes, he will have heard about all this chatter among fans and want to reinforce the point that he makes the decisions....becausse that's what he does.

For the umpteenth time: Moyes makes decisions to suit Moyes, not Everton. Sometimes those two outcomes coincide, sometimes they clash - this is one of the one's that clash.

I feel sorry for the lad. If I was him I'd be off like a 'kin shot.
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Look, I'd agree with a lot of this if it wasn't for the fact that we've been able to see Aznou a few times before Saturday and he genuinely did look physically miles away. That's not a figment of Moyes's imagination, so I can't blame Moyes for not picking him ahead of Mykolenko given the evidence we all had access to.

I would agree, however, that there have been games before Saturday (I'm thinking two games against Forest, home to Fulham and maybe Mansfield) where there were opportunities for him to get a few mins here and there on the wing, so Moyes isn't blameless here
 
LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
You’re probably right but Moyes’ "there's strong competition (at left back)" comment (mad thing to say like) doesn’t bode well for the lad.

Would be nice to see him get minutes here and there out on the left wing though.
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I actually thought he was talking about LW there which makes a lot more sense

Still unforgivable to give him 0 sub minutes there until now
 
toffeeblue9 said:
Look, I'd agree with a lot of this if it wasn't for the fact that we've been able to see Aznou a few times before Saturday and he genuinely did look physically miles away. That's not a figment of Moyes's imagination, so I can't blame Moyes for not picking him ahead of Mykolenko given the evidence we all had access to.

I would agree, however, that there have been games before Saturday (I'm thinking two games against Forest, home to Fulham and maybe Mansfield) where there were opportunities for him to get a few mins here and there on the wing, so Moyes isn't blameless here
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People tend to point at the Roma game. He'd been here a few weeks with new team mates. Moyes since then has largely ignored him.

There was no ability for us to 'see' him because he simply was never on the pitch.

I said for months on here that seeing is believing and that I'd rather be able to dismiss Aznou myself rather than rely on Moyes' self-serving judgements. And I was right to say that too.

Moyes has undermined that lad since he arrived. He was dismissing him on the preseason tour after about half a game.

There's something wrong with Moyes and young players. There always has been. That's a problem we have to contend with having him as manager.
 
davek said:
People tend to point at the Roma game. Held been here a few weeks with new team mates. Moyes since then has largely ignored him.

There was no abilklity for us to 'see' him because he simply was never on the pitch.

I said for months on here that seeing is believing and that Ild rather be able to dismiss Aznou myself rather than rely on Moyes' self-serving judgements. And I was rightly to say that too.

Moyes has undermined that lad since he arrived. He was dismissing him on the preseason tour after about half a game.

There's something wrong with Moyes and young players. There always has been. That's a problem we have to contend with having him as manager.
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He played in two U21 games which were televised mate, one of those against a football league side. We were able to have a look at him and it didn't look good. If it had just been the Roma game, I'd have agreed but we had three chances to have a look and it was worrying.

That said, he's clearly got talent so, as he did with likes of Coleman in years gone by, there should have been a plan to expose him to first team football in other ways before now IMO, but there's no way anyone with a sane mind could have seen the evidence we had at our disposal and suggest playing him at left back in the first team.
 
toffeeblue9 said:
He played in two U21 games which were televised mate, one of those against a football league side. We were able to have a look at him and it didn't look good. If it had just been the Roma game, I'd have agreed but we had three chances to have a look and it was worrying.

That said, he's clearly got talent so, as he did with likes of Coleman in years gone by, there should have been a plan to expose him to first team football in other ways before now IMO, but there's no way anyone with a sane mind could have seen the evidence we had at our disposal and suggest playing him at left back in the first team.
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Not remotely interested in that for reasons Ive outlined here over the last few days mate.

Those players at that level generally speaking are not on the same wavelength as a quality player and can make them look terrible just being in their company.
 
Pickford
JOB Tarks Branthwaite Myco

Garner KDH Aznou

Ilyman Barry Grealish

Subs:
Gueye
Beto
Dibling
Rohl
Keane
Alcaraz
Armstrong
Iroegbunam
Patterson
Travers

Here is an option that Moyes could take if he wanted to go the same development route as Coleman. It does show that with everyone fit and ready we could have quite a formidable side. It also highlights that with a dedicated LB and RB who could overlap that and a mobile, intelligent Striker, that we are on a good path.
 
davek said:
Not remotely interested in that for reasons Ive outlined here over the last few days mate.

Those players at that level generally speaking are not on the same wavelength as a quality player and can make them look terrible just being in their company.
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That's fine, but it shouldn't mean that he looked like a child in a man's game and was being bullied and not looking interested. Those three games are all we had seen until Saturday and it was pretty awful, worryingly so. I can accept him having a poor game, but we are talking about attitude and physicality, which is a bare minimum.

Again, that's not to absolve Moyes of blame for not managing to find a way to give him some exposure to the first team in other ways, but if Aznou was anything like as much of a fanny as he looked in those games in training than you'd have to have taken leave of your senses to throw him in at left back.
 

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