New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

davek said:
It doesn't feel like Everton's stadium or a fortress at all. It's not presented as that, it's presented as an entertainment hub and fans pick up on that and feel dispensable rather than identifying with it and owning it. Only when you have a sense of proprietorship do you get people being immersed in a venue.

It's all too anodyne. If they have intentions of getting statues at the stadium and increasing the club's name inside and outside it they better get a move on with it. The novelty is wearing off / worn off and they cant rely on that anymore
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I get the concerns, but you can't go from a ground that has been your home for 100+ years and expect to instantly feel the same connection or affinity to the new ground. Goodison had a romance to it, and its own unique character that can not just be replaced or replicated. But in the modern game, most successful teams or those hunting success have made similar.moves or re builds, can't be avoided. Anyone who is not impressed by the new stadium has expectations way beyond my own. Went to the game last night and did the tour today (yes I'm a wool - 80s child) impressive is not a fitting term for it. If I am honest, at this current time with this current team , it feels to big and too amazing, especially for some of the current players - the great teams of the past would have been more fitting players to grace this new stadium . I get the fans need to feel connected and I agree that the ground needs more of an 'everton' feel. The tour guides themselves said this was a work in progress- might be a poor analogy but when you move home , it takes a while for you to put your mark on it and for it to feel like 'home' . I share the concerns over ticketing and also concerns over the costs - hot dog and large chips £17 quid . My wife kept repeating to me ' that I thought you said this was the people club' and I accept the stadium cost a lot of money and needs paying for but I think the owners would do well to remember that everton are 'the people club' and that the connection with the fans is what ultimately makes the club. But ultimately we can't turn back, and nor should we , Everton now has possibly the best stadium in Britain , to the locals, the true die hard blue blood everton fans - I say help make this your home, and I am sure at some point we will have a team that can create many special nights
 
It's going to take a while for it to feel like home. Honestly I think an extra year of everton-ifying the place up would have done a world of good short term but I understand if it's functional then bringing in revenue asap is the goal.

One day it will be everything everyone envisioned.
 
Big chunks of Seat Unique seats were empty, and loads dotted around the ground. There can’t have been more than 50k in the ground.

Midweek games in the depths of winter that are all televised, watching a low quality mid-table team in a new stadium, which has yet to work up any atmosphere despite being a magnificent place. Not surprising I couldn’t offload my Brentford ticket on the resale, and am guessing my Leeds ticket will be the same.
 
Phil1978 said:
I get the concerns, but you can't go from a ground that has been your home for 100+ years and expect to instantly feel the same connection or affinity to the new ground. Goodison had a romance to it, and its own unique character that can not just be replaced or replicated. But in the modern game, most successful teams or those hunting success have made similar.moves or re builds, can't be avoided. Anyone who is not impressed by the new stadium has expectations way beyond my own. Went to the game last night and did the tour today (yes I'm a wool - 80s child) impressive is not a fitting term for it. If I am honest, at this current time with this current team , it feels to big and too amazing, especially for some of the current players - the great teams of the past would have been more fitting players to grace this new stadium . I get the fans need to feel connected and I agree that the ground needs more of an 'everton' feel. The tour guides themselves said this was a work in progress- might be a poor analogy but when you move home , it takes a while for you to put your mark on it and for it to feel like 'home' . I share the concerns over ticketing and also concerns over the costs - hot dog and large chips £17 quid . My wife kept repeating to me ' that I thought you said this was the people club' and I accept the stadium cost a lot of money and needs paying for but I think the owners would do well to remember that everton are 'the people club' and that the connection with the fans is what ultimately makes the club. But ultimately we can't turn back, and nor should we , Everton now has possibly the best stadium in Britain , to the locals, the true die hard blue blood everton fans - I say help make this your home, and I am sure at some point we will have a team that can create many special nights
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Good post mate. Agree with all of that.

The identity thing though is just not happening fast enough for me.
 
davek said:
It doesn't feel like Everton's stadium or a fortress at all. It's not presented as that, it's presented as an entertainment hub and fans pick up on that and feel dispensable rather than identifying with it and owning it. Only when you have a sense of proprietorship do you get people being immersed in a venue.

It's all too anodyne. If they have intentions of getting statues at the stadium and increasing the club's name inside and outside it they better get a move on with it. The novelty is wearing off / worn off and they cant rely on that anymore to be an attraction.
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I posted the below when we played Brentford. Not sure what's missing, but something is; hopefully it's just a case of needing to settle into the new stadium and making it "ours".

Cels said:
I don't think The Hill Dickinson Stadium is the fortress we hoped it would be.
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MikeyMike said:
Big chunks of Seat Unique seats were empty, and loads dotted around the ground. There can’t have been more than 50k in the ground.

Midweek games in the depths of winter that are all televised, watching a low quality mid-table team in a new stadium, which has yet to work up any atmosphere despite being a magnificent place. Not surprising I couldn’t offload my Brentford ticket on the resale, and am guessing my Leeds ticket will be the same.
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Completely true.

But if they're sold they'll go toward the attendance total.

More of a concern for the club is that due to a combo of things over a thousand supporters have been lost by the club since the start of the season.
 
Cels said:
I posted the below when we played Brentford. Not sure what's missing, but something is; hopefully it's just a case of needing to settle into the new stadium and making it "ours".


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In a nutshell: the football is rubbish; the stadium feels like a facility rather than an Everton stadium; the transportation links are abysmal.

That'll lose you over a thousand attendees in the worst months of winter.
 
My mate worked late and came straight the ground, so ended up getting his tea down at the concourse.

£19 for a burger, a few chips and a beer hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
Ray Purchase said:
The number, and quality of the loo's are excellent.

Important for us oldie males.
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Putting my entrepreneurial hat on for a second: heated gilets could do a roaring trade for the club if they sold them for that stadium. It's 'kin freezing.

Older neighbour of mine wont go into that stadium without his charged up.

£40 a pop with an Everton badge on them; they'd fly off the club shop shelves.
 

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