We need to talk about Nottingham Forest.

Final position

  • Top 4

    Votes: 22 6.4%
  • Other European Qualification

    Votes: 63 18.4%
  • Top 10 outside Europe

    Votes: 57 16.7%
  • Complete capitulation bottom half.

    Votes: 200 58.5%

  • Total voters
    342
Thank god Moyes got more out of mostly those same players last season then or there’s a good chance we wouldn’t be in the PL now.

A good chance?! Leicester went down on 25 points! You don’t think we’d have got 9 points from 18 games? Even Moyes said there wasn’t much wrong. We went going down that season, threat was much greater in 2023, the teams at the bottom were much better.
 
Again you’re just arguing that managers are irrelevant. Following your logic, if everything is down to the players, then why are you angry at Dyche? Everything bad that happened is his fault but anything decent is the players? Convenient narrative.

Dyche got more out of poorer players than Rodgers did out of better ones in the run in to season end 23, hence we stayed up.
Not angry at him. I just don't think he was the Anne Sullivan to our Helen Keller that you seem to think he was. And his cowardly exit and denigrating comments since haven't merited any kind of adulation, at least not from me. You feel he's worthy of a pedestal, fine. You and the sour citrus are welcome to it. Me, I'm just happy to be shut of him.
 

'We can't make basic errors like that'published at 14:55 GMT​

14:55 GMT​

FT: Aston Villa 3-1 Nottingham Forest
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Nottingham Forest

Nottingham Forest boss Sean Dyche, speaking to Sky Sports:
"The whole game-plan was to frustrate them. It's tough as a manger because the players did everything we asked of them in the first half.

"Simple, basic errors. It's unfortunate because we've done that too many times. We gave away the third - a mix-up and mistake. It's a tough one because the players put a lot into that. We can't keep making basic errors like that. We have to change and learn from it.

"Our shape was good. I don't think they hardly laid a glove on us until they scored."

On goalkeeper John Victor: "He will be alright. He has come out too far."

On West Ham on Tuesday: "This is a juggling act. Lots of games. I knew this wasn't going to be a walk in the park. There was a lot of honesty and hard yards. But it's a big learning curve over these four games."
The same muck he came out with when he was with us. He almost states that they didn't try to win but just frustrate Villa. Terrible.
 
A good chance?! Leicester went down on 25 points! You don’t think we’d have got 9 points from 18 games? Even Moyes said there wasn’t much wrong. We went going down that season, threat was much greater in 2023, the teams at the bottom were much better.
I think Leicester would have got more if another team was still in the mix. But yeah, Dyche had only got 17 points up to then. So it’s not a massive stretch considering we had only won 1 game in the previous 11
 
A good chance?! Leicester went down on 25 points! You don’t think we’d have got 9 points from 18 games? Even Moyes said there wasn’t much wrong. We went going down that season, threat was much greater in 2023, the teams at the bottom were much better.
I think we would have struggled to amass those points under Dyche, yes

He'd clearly thrown in the towel by then and was out of ideas

I won't take away from him the things he achieved whilst here, but anyone arguing he wasn't deservedly sacked when he was, and that sacking him essentially rescued the season, has an agenda and nothing more IMO
 
The obsession with this manager is off the charts.

He's living in so many people's heads because they've convinced themselves he was the enemy of Everton Football Club...when in reality he saved our arses twice in three seasons from oblivion.

I can only think that these same people punch their parents in the face every time they see them.

It's that whacked.

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I think we would have struggled to amass those points under Dyche, yes

He'd clearly thrown in the towel by then and was out of ideas

I won't take away from him the things he achieved whilst here, but anyone arguing he wasn't deservedly sacked when he was, and that sacking him essentially rescued the season, has an agenda and nothing more IMO
Bear in mind as well that one of the big Moyes results initially was a win over Leicester

Do we win that with Dyche at the helm?
 
I dont care what happens to Forest or Dyche (certainly not Forest) but I know one thing: I will be eternally grateful we had a manager like Dyche at the helm when the world came at us to try and destroy us as a top flight club. He faced that challenge and got us through it.

That's something no one can ever take away from him.
 
Lol. Yes it was: "that was me" pointing out how much this feller lives in some peoples heads 24/7.

I wouldn't give him the space in my head, this is a Forest thread and had nothing to do with him before he somehow managed to get himself in the door. It was more of a humour thread for me watching things play out with their shocking owner. But a club that sings poverty chants and a manager that does nothing much more then "Speak".

They are deserved of each other.
 

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