Clarky cat
Player Valuation: £35m
Can he beat his own record and get to 14 games without a win?…
What. A. Manager.
We need to talk about Nottingham Forest.
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What. A. Manager.
Toffeeslam
Player Valuation: £40m
If that happens with this Forest squad he deserves to get banished from every thing football
It’s a bit sad how anyone could defend the bloke who made going to the game an absolute misery, but you do you, mate. At least you’ve got the Scabs as a second team now that the “messiah” has returned.Its been boringly done to death at this stage mate, there just isn't new ground to break to be honest, you can say 1 point above relegation, someone else can say he was about five odd points or the like of being safe for the season etc - its boring.
He ran out of road for sure, he had no authority in the end given his contract situation, TFG were courting new managers for the summer and he lost all credibility and authority because of it all. His position was untenable. It was right that everyone move on.
I find it a bit sad, people cant wish him luck, the first season and a half was a real contribution and service to the club in what was probably its darkest time in our history existentially . Points deductions, zero budget, selling best players etc.
Find the resentment kind of like - if your house was on fire and a fire fighter turns up, puts it out -saving your house, then you get annoyed with them because your furniture got wet.
Personally will always be grateful to him.
We wont break new ground on Dyche overall - but its far from simplistically about 1 point above the relegation zone.
We've moved on, he's moved on, - wish him the very best of luck.
I don’t need to defend him, the facts or how you choose to to interpret them is an individual choice, for me are enjoying being a PL club at the moment due in no small part to his contribution.
We aren’t spending 100+ mill on transfers and owned by Texan Tea billionaires, if we went down after the Lampard debacle or Points deduction seasons.
Each to their own as you say, he deserves a good luck from us at the very least in my opinion but I won’t loose aleep
Over it, but hey you gotta be you!
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Wait until you hear what it thinks of the professional occupation of Pitch Inspector.
Harryflashman
Player Valuation: £60m
I appreciate it’s an unpopular decision but I think he did very well when he first arrived and during the points deduction.Its been boringly done to death at this stage mate, there just isn't new ground to break to be honest, you can say 1 point above relegation, someone else can say he was about five odd points or the like of being safe for the season etc - its boring.
He ran out of road for sure, he had no authority in the end given his contract situation, TFG were courting new managers for the summer and he lost all credibility and authority because of it all. His position was untenable. It was right that everyone move on.
I find it a bit sad, people cant wish him luck, the first season and a half was a real contribution and service to the club in what was probably its darkest time in our history existentially . Points deductions, zero budget, selling best players etc.
Find the resentment kind of like - if your house was on fire and a fire fighter turns up, puts it out -saving your house, then you get annoyed with them because your furniture got wet.
Personally will always be grateful to him.
We wont break new ground on Dyche overall - but its far from simplistically about 1 point above the relegation zone.
We've moved on, he's moved on, - wish him the very best of luck.
That’s not to say I think that his performance dropped because it did and we were certainly underperforming for much of his later career here .
I’m certainly grateful for some of his efforts however his attitude towards the club and general public persona made it very difficult for me to, and I think much of the fan base to take to him.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Radio DJ they told us. Meanwhile Dyche is now preparing for Porto in the Europa league.
Good post mate, he definitely had limits and he ran out of road here, but he was the right manager for the first 18 months, considering what was going on.
Always amazes me people get annoyed and resentful about - when you need a fire fighter, you employ a fire fighter, the fire fighter fire fights, puts out fires, then get annoyed with them for being a fire fighter.
When the fire is out you move on and say thanks very much!
Harryflashman
Player Valuation: £60m
My problem , along with his persona , was he seemed to be unwilling to see beyond putting the fire out . Even when it was out he wasn’t turning off the hoses .Good post mate, he definitely had limits and he ran out of road here, but he was the right manager for the first 18 months, considering what was going on.
Always amazes me people get annoyed, when you need a fire fighter, you employ a fire fighter, the fire fighter fire fights, then get annoyed with him for being a fire fighter.
When the fire is out you move on and say thanks very much!
Also that winless run was unacceptable at pretty much any club in the football world
Clarky cat
Player Valuation: £35m
Personally I don’t think a good “firefighter” starts the fires he wants the accolades for putting out.Good post mate, he definitely had limits and he ran out of road here, but he was the right manager for the first 18 months, considering what was going on.
Always amazes me people get annoyed and resentful about - when you need a fire fighter, you employ a fire fighter, the fire fighter fire fights, puts out fires, then get annoyed with them for being a fire fighter.
When the fire is out you move on and say thanks very much!
I think that his ceiling mate and i dont think hes very aware of it either. He actually let a massive chance that last year career wise go begging in my opinion.
I find the interesting thing with him is he has 0 PR skills to.
Lampard is still massively popular, but is a worse manager - but he convinced people "he get us" and essentially blew smoke up peoples backsides with no substance, fans and media. Dyche is the opposite, at times he gave stick to the fans and media. Lampard is still more popular then Dyche. Though Dyche is the better manager.
Its amazing the influence PR has on people perceptions, that they arent aware.
Dyche went about it all wrong, but i find that a bit endearing if im honest, in an old school way, but it contributed to the toxicity around him.
I dont judge Dyche the way i do other Everton manager - winless run etc - on the basis of the club being an absolute skip fire internally and being attacked so unfairly externally - with 0 money to spend selling out best players - its not a normal context to judge a manager off.
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He hit a ceiling his last year for sure mate, but he walked into a maunure show as we know on the pitch and internally.
Hes a limited fire fighter, but i respect what he did here - in the context of the time and im grateful to him.
He’s getting no good luck from me, I hope he takes them down, they’re not a very nice club.I don’t need to defend him, the facts or how you choose to to interpret them is an individual choice, for me are enjoying being a PL club at the moment due in no small part to his contribution.
We aren’t spending 100+ mill on transfers and owned by Texan Tea billionaires, if we went down after the Lampard debacle or Points deduction seasons.
Each to their own as you say, he deserves a good luck from us at the very least in my opinion but I won’t loose aleep
Over it, but hey you gotta be you!
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