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Yarrgh said:
No way will they bankrupt them, that goose lays too many golden eggs for them to be that stupid.

Honestly you have to at least respect the way that they can sweat at asset that much and people still throw their hard earned dough at them. I suspect we'll only know when they've ran the place into the ground when they sell the club for one last payday and leave some other schmuck with the wreckage.
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You know they were major backers of the euro super league. Control of the manchester united on the cusp of a 'whole new ball game'. They could practically taste the broadcasting rights. There's the other gateaux on the sweet trolley, individual digital international broadcast rights (streaming made legit around the globe). This will see 3pm Saturdays into the bin. It'll be 9pm kick offs to satisfy certain markets first, then, eventually, competitive games played live from the Dubai superdome, the Beijing Olympic stadium etc. "the game has no boundaries, it's a global league now, everywhere (that can afford it) deserves a taste of the live action"...

They also won't sell up with a new stadium in the offing, I wonder if they try to outdo the rungadro at 114k.
 

Rita_Poon said:
You know they were major backers of the euro super league. Control of the manchester united on the cusp of a 'whole new ball game'. They could practically taste the broadcasting rights. There's the other gateaux on the sweet trolley, individual digital international broadcast rights (streaming made legit around the globe). This will see 3pm Saturdays into the bin. It'll be 9pm kick offs to satisfy certain markets first, then, eventually, competitive games played live from the Dubai superdome, the Beijing Olympic stadium etc. "the game has no boundaries, it's a global league now, everywhere (that can afford it) deserves a taste of the liveI' action"...

They also won't sell up with a new stadium in the offing, I wonder if they try to outdo the rungadro at 114k.
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I'd like to disagree with you and call you crazy, but ...

At least we can all be happy when the Kuala Lumpa* Red Sox leave the city.









*Could be Oslo if they decide to stay local.
 

Milk said:
Interesting.... two credit rating agencies have raised red flags against Ineos
Apparently they have debts north of £10bn
No wonder Ratcliffe wants government to subsidise a new stadium
And perhaps there are legs in a Saudi buyout after all
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Ineos modus operandi is to buy failing companies with debt, strip them back (in the name of efficiencies), make them profitable and sell them on.

This brings in profits for the owners and helps service the debt. The issue is that they are now struggling to make these companies profitable, so they're laden.

It looks as if they are failing to do the same at United!
 
PhilM said:
Ineos modus operandi is to buy failing companies with debt, strip them back (in the name of efficiencies), make them profitable and sell them on.

This brings in profits for the owners and helps service the debt. The issue is that they are now struggling to make these companies profitable, so they're laden.

It looks as if they are failing to do the same at United!
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Excellent article in the Times by Matthew Syed recently on Ratcliffe and how he manages to mess up every sport he gets involved in. All Blacks now suing him for unpaid sponsorship monies as well as Ben Ainslie accusing him of breaking all sorts of agreements.

It will end in tears at Utd. The parallels with us are quite instructive
 
Milk said:
Excellent article in the Times by Matthew Syed recently on Ratcliffe and how he manages to mess up every sport he gets involved in. All Blacks now suing him for unpaid sponsorship monies as well as Ben Ainslie accusing him of breaking all sorts of agreements.

It will end in tears at Utd. The parallels with us are quite instructive
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And they thought the Glazers were bad..
 
Milk said:
Excellent article in the Times by Matthew Syed recently on Ratcliffe and how he manages to mess up every sport he gets involved in. All Blacks now suing him for unpaid sponsorship monies as well as Ben Ainslie accusing him of breaking all sorts of agreements.

It will end in tears at Utd. The parallels with us are quite instructive
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Yep, it’s frightening.
 
PhilM said:
Ineos modus operandi is to buy failing companies with debt, strip them back (in the name of efficiencies), make them profitable and sell them on.

This brings in profits for the owners and helps service the debt. The issue is that they are now struggling to make these companies profitable, so they're laden.

It looks as if they are failing to do the same at United!
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Ineos is a company that anyone, who has or is working there, will advise you to avoid like the plague.

They expect a pound of flesh for paying rates that aren't any great shakes.
 

Yarrgh said:
Ineos is a company that anyone, who has or is working there, will advise you to avoid like the plague.

They expect a pound of flesh for paying rates that aren't any great shakes.
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I've heard very, very similar things. I posted this back in December.

PhilM said:
Maybe, or maybe it's a reflection of how Ratcliffe and Ineos run as a business model, which isn't always great for the staff who work there.

Their root and branch review, led by a scouse RS*, was done in a way that is typical with their modus operandi of reshaping failing or fledgling industries.

It wasn't run in a way that you'd normally attribute with a football club, so the shorter contract length would suggest they want quick changes with lower risk to them.

This is about improving their top line - nothing more, nothing less. Upsetting people along the way, including the fans, won't be something they'll worry about.

*a HR man, and no experience within professional football.
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PhilM said:
They are like Blockbusters: great in the day (the brand for the weekend), but they have slowly sleep-walked into a crisis that is only getting deeper and deeper.

Old Trafford is a dump, Carrington has been starved as investment (being there regularly, it's shabby!) and they have spent hundreds of millions on rubbish.

Out of today's starting XI, how many would get into most of the top six teams? Top eight? K'in ell, how many would we take off them, even on the cheap?

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I even checked for injuries and it's Shaw, Martinez, Mount, Evans, Diallo and Eriksen, so you couldn't even say that is a real issue. It's just a poor squad!

With how much they have wasted on spending and PSR, they are going to struggle to rebuild quickly, and that's only if they can get rid of lots of the dross.

They aren't going down this year (not with the teams below them), although I do think they may continue to slip into midtable abyss for a year or two.
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Dorgu
Garnacho
Mainoo
Diallo
Hojlund

All have promise...but i wouldnt fancy any of the others in our team.

Thats Man Utd. A great 3 signings by Thelwell in the summer and i think we'll finish quite far north of them next season.

Saint Domingo said:
Only United could have got rid of a bloke who won 2 cups in previous seasons. Their entitlement knows no limit. They should have kept Mourinho, they’d be a lot better off now, but the hipsters have pervaded their fan base so badly they won’t accept anyone who actually puts value in organising a defence.
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Im still bewildered they binned him & that Spurs torpedoed themselves before the cup final.

He could have stayed at either side for a long time and broken his 3 year voodoo.
 

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