6 + 2 Point Deductions

[jazzy]

I'm rapidly getting to the stage where I simply can't be arsed about football in general and Everton particular.

Pathetic on my part but I seem consumed by our difficulties and could be time to take a step back and find something else to do with my time.

 

[Dixieslaces]

Who is she? I have to google her.. I'm strangely attracted to her.

Caroline Dineage


Someone already said Daughter of Fred!

 

[Toffeepot]

Will we ever get to a time when the focus of the sport isnt on referees or accounting?

We did already
It has passed now

 

[witchdoc187]

Fantastic comment from the Chair. It's about time someone called them out this hard, the smug clueless idiots. You don't know what your doing

I did enjoy that

 

[witchdoc187]

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Caroline Dineage


Someone already said Daughter of Fred!

Haha I remember him from the news. Would make sense as he was Pompey too

 

[edge]

From the Forest side this is a new experience, but based on what Masters said today we think these are the key points. Would be good if you lads could confirm:

1) Everton (record holders for seasons in the top division) and Forest (twice as many European Cups as City) are ‘small clubs’

2) 1 accusation in 2023 is treated more seriously, and swiftly, than 115 accusations before 2023

3) there is a date to look at City’s alleged offences - this date is a secret, but it won’t be this season. The precise timescale for Forest and Everton being assessed is widely published and any punishment will be this season.

4) Coincidentally, the rules will change between this season and next season

5) alleged offences by Forest and Everton are treated one at a time, and immediately. Alleged offences by City are only assessed once every detail of all 115 is known.

Feel free to correct any of this - it’s a steep learning curve

It's more or less it mate.
Cutting through the mass of information.
You are getting done for wanting to build a team that isn't just cannon fodder for the big 6.
We are getting done because are accountant leader put the loans in one pot, instead of saying we have two pots here, one for the ground one for daily running of the club,
If he had we could have claimed the intrest on the loans for the ground and not been done.
The Premier league just said you got those loans to run the club not to build the ground.
By the way until it passes planning permission none of the millions you have spent counts. Getting the land planning , design ect. Count either,
Like ground s just pop up magically put of the ground, suppose the do if you City or west ham but for the rest of us not very lightly.
We have already been done for two of the seasons under these rules, leaving the prospect that for one season of not meeting the rules you could get done for each of the next two or three seasons for the same offences.
It just rolls over?
We got are punishment in late August and couldn't sell anybody as the tranfer window was shut,
To make up the difference
They have asked for the accounts before the winter window meaning in reality,
When they gave the original penalty they knew full well we were going to fall foul again as they deliberately left us no where /way to get the money in.
Factor in the knew we were on the process of being sold , the old owner wasn't going to put millions on as it was going to be somebody' else problem.
The new owners can't sort it all out as the havnt been passed fit, don't think they will be myself,
All of which the Premier league knew, the government passed them fit three weeks a go, nothing from the league, wonder why?
But the Premier league as you can see have cynically manoeuvred the situation to suit themselves.
Hence you and us getting done before Masters goes before the committee.
It's a play by the league to try and not have someone having a say in the running of there plaything and you and us are unfortunately the ones they have deemed. Fit to throw under the bus.
We are a big established team , they want fresh meat to be served up to the tv brigade
We unfortunately don't fit there profile.
You are the upstarts that had the audacity to dream of joining the club,
Hard luck mate you have just been black balled.
You will pick it up soon enough, fans outside of Everton still havnt a clue what we are going on about, now unfortunately you will have to walk in are shoe's.
Your best bet is if Everton win the appeal and get some pionts back or you will be hammerd as well.
On City just pick one thing they have them bang to rights on, drag them in on that only then say we will deal with the rest at a later date.
Who is to say City are not up to stuff now.
Do they say well we had another 100 charges after that date of the original hundred plus so you can hang on again?

 

[Bebeto]

PSR and FFP are not about competition, they rules are designed to control costs. Nothing more.

If they were about competitive balance, everyone would have the same salary cap.

A salary cap...now that would be a game changer in relation to fair competition...Will never happen though, top 6 would 100% rejected unless their cap is higher than everybody else and stays like that for ever.

 

[Joey66]

A salary cap...now that would be a game changer in relation to fair competition...Will never happen though, top 6 would 100% rejected unless their cap is higher than everybody else and stays like that for ever.

Rugby are thinking of doing it .....

 

[Iana]

Haha I remember him from the news. Would make sense as he was Pompey too

She’s the MP for Gosport so she is well connected with the area around Portsmouth.

 

[trueblue84]

A salary cap...now that would be a game changer in relation to fair competition...Will never happen though, top 6 would 100% rejected unless their cap is higher than everybody else and stays like that for ever.

The players would all go abroad and the league would collapse.

 

[Marius57]

I think people read into these comments a little bit too much.

The independent panel ( boys club ) make the final decision and if they wanted could even increase the deduction.

Oh I know, it won’t have meant anything, but we need more anger at him.

The ‘independent’ panel picked by the ‘independent’ chair who is retained/paid by the PL will make the decision, I know I know.

 

[Ruairi77]

A salary cap...now that would be a game changer in relation to fair competition...Will never happen though, top 6 would 100% rejected unless their cap is higher than everybody else and stays like that for ever.

You'd lose all the super stars to a league with no cap but maybe thats ok

 

[Iana]

Oh I know, it won’t have meant anything, but we need more anger at him.

The ‘independent’ panel picked by the ‘independent’ chair who is retained/paid by the PL will make the decision, I know I know.

But Richard Masters said they were all “respected financial and legal experts”…Mmm.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Brigadier2]

Pompey fans have big issues with the premier league, couldn't of asked for a better person on that panel.

 

[Marius57]

I dont personally think he came out of that Select Committee very well at all, his squirming and lack of comfort where there to see but he is an arrognat POS and i cant wait for him to be booted when a new independent regulator is appointed.

I think a few on here seem to think this was a Everton Select Committee it wasnt it just so happens that the timing was perfect

he is so smarmy. When the first Everton question came up, he immediately put his hands in front of his mouth (as liars do) and could barely sit still, rubbing his hands etc (which distracts from the words coming out of his mouth).