6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Shibbywiggles]

I dislike Everton but werent our fans signing about Chelsea rent boys last week?

Lets not pretend our poo doesnt stink.

That’s a shame, didn’t hear that tbh but I don’t doubt you, every club has some bells

 

[Toffeelover]

Interesting why the 3 who wanted to screw us are keeping quiet.

 

[matty1878]

Of course he wont be, but saying small clubs just shows his little disregard for teams other than the super duper massively awesome hugely legendary fabulous enormous clubs... He is CEO of the league he shouldn't be using terms like small clubs to describe members.. When the super duper massively awesome hugely legendary fabulous enormous clubs went about destroying football where was he? only handing out insignificant fines.

completely agree i’m praying to god justice prevails it’s so not right

 

[Dixieslaces]

so richard masters is screwing us over?

I dont personally think he came out of that Select Committee very well at all, his squirming and lack of comfort where there to see but he is an arrognat POS and i cant wait for him to be booted when a new independent regulator is appointed.

I think a few on here seem to think this was a Everton Select Committee it wasnt it just so happens that the timing was perfect

 

[matty1878]

Interesting why the 3 who wanted to screw us are keeping quiet.

stones at they’re windows

 

[PeregrineT]

I think its far more complex than is being suggested. Here’s my reading of the problem

The written reasons goes into quite some detail about the capitalism of stadium costs prior to planning consent being granted in Feb 21 which as that date fell in the 20/21 accounting year costs could be capitalised for 20/21 et seq


In effect some £39.3 million had to be included in the profit and loss and couldn’t because of accounting convention be discounted when it came to the P&S (FFP ) submissions. In effect the 2017/18, 2018/ 2019 and 2019/20 numbers were impacted. This problem was identified by Everton

After much pressure from the Everton heiracy the PL based on projections agreed that for the period ending 30/6/22 it looked as if Everton would exceed the £105 million but it wouldn’t if the costs re the stadium were excluded. So in August 21 the PL Board agreed that as long any 3 year breech didn’t exceed £105 million + the uncapitalised sums then the stadium costs would be excluded.

Alas as we now know they did exceed £105 + the uncapitalised costs so that extra concession didn’t happen.

When it comes to the Interest that Everton wanted to claim but the PL disallowed then that’s a whole different debate and to be honest looking the written reasons it was basically a schoolboy error which seems to have had significant impact.

Oh yes, I agree that when it comes down to it its all about the pre-planning stadium costs the PL would NOT allow us to exclude. That basically started an inevitable snowball to where we are now.

 

[matty1878]

I dont personally think he came out of that Select Committee very well at all, his squirming and lack of comfort where there to see but he is an arrognat POS and i cant wait for him to be booted when a new independent regulator is appointed.

I think a few on here seem to think this was a Everton Select Committee it wasnt it just so happens that the timing was perfect

is this guna help our situation?

 

[WestStandLower]

Chelsea question - maybe I’m remembering wrong but I’m old and angry so…

Foreseeable events - loss of sponsorship.

How shortsighted of the Everton board not to realise there was going to be a war in Europe and their main sponsor was going to be blocked.

Everton lost all USM sponsorship and stadium naming rights payments to complete BMD. Hence the need for payday loans.

How much of this income was replaced with new/replacement deals? Was there a shortfall in the new contracts?



PL are a private organisation and government should not interfere in domestic leagues - according to uefa/fifa iirc.



Why then, did the government ‘take over’ the running and financing of Chelsea when Ukraine kicked off?

Effectively putting Chelsea in a bubble till a mega rich owner was found and all their finances were sorted so they never lost a penny. They have in fact, now been able to invest more than Abramovich was willing to invest and come up with new ways of buying players.



Why did the PL allow this interference? Chelsea should have foreseen this event was going to happen and taken steps to avoid problems.

They were given a distinct advantage over others who had sponsorship from blacklisted companies.



How can the PL allow one club to be protected by an outside entity and tell another club the same excuse is invalid?



Why didn’t our defence include this unfair comparison of ours and Chelsea’s finances?

Alas I suspect your memory may well be playing tricks.

First at no point did the Government take over and finance the running of Chelsea. Far from it the club had to function initially from its own resources but later on Abromavich had to inject yet further capital even though he was told he had to sell and been barred by thePL under the fit and proper rules

Chelsea couldn’t sell tickets, merchandise, weren’t allowed to negotiate new contracts, register players had the sum that could be expended in matchday organisation, away game travel and even when late in the day when it was agreed to sell tickets the proceeds of sale had to be donated to charity

Several of the big sponsors such as 3 suspended their deals in effect withholding staged payments.

 

[pfim]

PSR and FFP are not about competition, they rules are designed to control costs. Nothing more.

If they were about competitive balance, everyone would have the same salary cap.

 

[Drico]

Within them 100+ charges against City I'd be very surprised if at least one of them isn't the same charge as against us/Forest.. therefore charge them for that and sort the rest out later.
To say that the details can't be released is a cop out..I hope this 'super silk' is onto things like this.

They're not interested in that. The game has been captured. They are interested in finding a way to pretend they are regulating the game while doing the bidding of their nation state masters - who cannot be regulated by anything other than another nation state. Unfortunately, the UK nation state decided that it was in the national interest to allow Newcastle United be taken over by Saudi Arabia. Nobody is going to cross a nation state now, lest they end up in pieces in a suitcase at the Turkish consulate.

The Premier League's race to the bottom merely reflects Britain in 2024: captured by far-right interests.

 

[RomanReigns]

I dislike Everton but werent our fans singing about Chelsea rent boys last week?

Lets not pretend our poo doesnt stink.

i didn't hear this chant at all during the chelsea game

 

[Dixieslaces]

is this guna help our situation?

Who knows Mate, the way the inner circles work is beyond mere mortals like us but i have to be honest and say I think it did shine a bit of a light on the PL overall.

I tend to think that while the overall aspect of 2 offences being levied against us is extremely concerning, the result of the Appeal for me, if successful lends itself to the second one being dismissed with perhaps a punishment more fitting of the off field issues.

 

[Cjplennon]

is this guna help our situation?

Unlikely, i think its helping the PL being in the news for charging clubs. Its giving an impression that they have power, clout and are a respected authority just applying the 'rules'.
Of course some fans of other clubs think that we should be punished, and this is all great work from the PL for some reason, mainly because they dont understand thecircumstances or they are holier than thou RS.

 

[Goat]

i didn't hear this chant at all during the chelsea game

The 10 green bottles song Spud.

 

[Dixieslaces]

Te

stones at they’re windows

Tell John, no matter how much he begs we cant afford him right now!!