Relegation 2022/23

[davek]

Hard to argue with any of that a Chara, I’d throw in a coup,e of creative players too, if we’re going down let’s at least do it with style.

Think it’s between us, Southampton, Wolves, Forest, Leeds and Bourmouth.

Bar Southampton, the rest look capable of picking up results.

Sadly I think this is done.

All those teams you mention can score more goals than us - or have the ability to score more goals than us.

Richarlison kept us up ultimately. We have...nothing...and it looks very much like we have nothing in terms of cash to throw at this.

This will be it now. We face a long 5 months into the abyss. That's how I genuinely see it without wishing to be dramatic.

 

[Neiler]

Sadly I think this is done.

All those teams you mention can score more goals than us - or have the ability to score more goals than us.

Richarlison kept us up ultimately. We have...nothing...and it looks very much like we have nothing in terms of cash to throw at this.

This will be it now. We face a long 5 months into the abyss. That's how I genuinely see it without any drama.

In the old days, even five years ago, you know we would have went out and beat City against the odds, i Wouldn't back us at 50-1.

We played with fire last season, went out and sold our best player - when you look at it what did we think would happen…… That transfer fee is going to be a very expensive 50 million.

 

[GoldenToffee]

One of the most scary things is the fact we seem to have assembled a squad that genuinely wouldn't look out of place towards the lower echelons of the Championship.

Yesterday, after the defeat, I spent a good amount of time trying to formulate a post on here demonstrating what formations and players we could use that would have us performing better or being more clinical.

Alas I ended up deleting it because no matter what I tried, we still only have one (piss poor) left back in the squad, three wingers who aren't Premier League quality, two of which almost certainly wouldn't have any takers if they were put up for sale tomorrow, absolutely nobody with an ounce of creativity who can pick a pass, no real number 10, and no striker that can be relied upon at all.

You can look past one, maybe two of the above (you can play without a number 10 and with one poor full back, for example), but ALL of the above is going is relegate you very quickly.

Put us in the Championship and we'll also have Begovic as our first choice goalkeeper, and will likely be replacing Onana with Tom Davies. That's probably the reason why he hasn't left yet tbh, as the club may yet want to keep him after selling the Belgian to offset the huge losses we will incur.

That would be a starting XI with Davies, Mykolenko, McNeil, Gray, Maupay and possibly Gordon in it. Six absolutely terrible players.

 

[jonnyboy316]

Sadly I think this is done.

All those teams you mention can score more goals than us - or have the ability to score more goals than us.

Richarlison kept us up ultimately. We have...nothing...and it looks very much like we have nothing in terms of cash to throw at this.

This will be it now. We face a long 5 months into the abyss. That's how I genuinely see it without wishing to be dramatic.

We need a Kevin Campbell and that ain’t Elanga

 

[jonnyboy316]

One of the most scary things is the fact we seem to have assembled a squad that genuinely wouldn't look out of place towards the lower echelons of the Championship.

Yesterday, after the defeat, I spent a good amount of time trying to formulate a post on here demonstrating what formations and players we could use that would have us performing better or being more clinical.

Alas I ended up deleting it because no matter what I tried, we still only have one (piss poor) left back in the squad, three wingers who aren't Premier League quality, two of which almost certainly wouldn't have any takers if they were put up for sale tomorrow, absolutely nobody with an ounce of creativity who can pick a pass, no real number 10, and no striker that can be relied upon at all.

You can look past one, maybe two of the above (you can play without a number 10 and with one poor full back, for example), but ALL of the above is going is relegate you very quickly.

Put us in the Championship and we'll also have Begovic as our first choice goalkeeper, and will likely be replacing Onana with Tom Davies. That's probably the reason why he hasn't left yet tbh, as the club may yet want to keep him after selling the Belgian to offset the huge losses we will incur.

That would be a starting XI with Davies, Mykolenko, McNeil, Gray, Maupay and possibly Gordon in it. Six absolutely terrible players.

I said that yesterday. We have an oven ready championship side

 

[blue to the bone]

Last season I was on of the few who said I thought we would stay up even when we were in a worse position. After Burnley especially I still felt we would get out of it .
This season I think we will go..what kept us last season was the fans and Richarlison. I'm not sure the fans will have the same impact and obviously we don't have Richy.

 

[Drico]

Last season I was on of the few who said I thought we would stay up even when we were in a worse position. After Burnley especially I still felt we would get out of it .
This season I think we will go..what kept us last season was the fans and Richarlison. I'm not sure the fans will have the same impact and obviously we don't have Richy.

That blue flares stuff was, essentially, a distress call. The fans, to their credit, saved the club last season. But that only works once. It'll be parody stuff if it is expected to work again this season.

 

[nsno-chris]

Once we go, we go and won’t be seen for a while.

If people think we’re backup the following year they’re mistaken. This could be another a situation similar to Notts Forrest.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we tumbled into the First division along the way

 

[gazzaa2]

Get to the last few home games and it'll be left to the crowd to drag us over the line again.

 

[Drico]

Get to the last few home games and it'll be left to the crowd to drag us over the line again.

We don't have the quality to be dragged over the line any more. In the absence of a fit DCL and Richarlison, we're not scoring the goals we need to win the key games. And the manager has been exposed as the face some always suspected him of being. There's nothing there, nothing to get behind. I think we will finally drop this season barring the Christ-like resurrection of DCL or a competent new manager allowed to buy a decent forward in the coming month.

 

[davek]

In the old days, even five years ago, you know we would have went out and beat City against the odds, i Wouldn't back us at 50-1.

We played with fire last season, went out and sold our best player - when you look at it what did we think would happen…… That transfer fee is going to be a very expensive 50 million.

The deal had to be done because the PL had to be boxed off and satisfied. However, what cash we had was wasted on ineffectual players like Maupay, Onana and McNeill. That was the issue. That's down to Thelwell and Lampard.

Rondon is gone and I expect at least one in during January. It'll be a throw of the dice move.

If we had the wherewithal to buy players I'd get shut of Lampard now.

 

[daza_1973]

Nine wins from this lot
with Frank - impossible
without Frank - still unlikely
Plus Arsenal away too somewhere

 

[NathDogg]

Last season I was on of the few who said I thought we would stay up even when we were in a worse position. After Burnley especially I still felt we would get out of it .
This season I think we will go..what kept us last season was the fans and Richarlison. I'm not sure the fans will have the same impact and obviously we don't have Richy.

That blue flares stuff was, essentially, a distress call. The fans, to their credit, saved the club last season. But that only works once. It'll be parody stuff if it is expected to work again this season.

Get to the last few home games and it'll be left to the crowd to drag us over the line again.

I said it after the nightmare last season - not sure the fans have got another great escape in us. I certainly don’t think I have, last season was traumatic and exhausting for me personally. The sleepless nights, stress and worry aren’t something I can go through again, so I think I’ve made a conscious decision to try and not let it affect me as much, and maybe that’s taken away some of my “enthusiasm” at the match, but I think im protecting myself, and I am sure others are - the crowd was quiet yesterday, but I’m not going to blame or go in on any fan for protecting themselves and not giving as much “support”at the game. It can’t keep falling to the fans to spark these players into action - it should be the other way round.

Lampard telling the fans to be patient and stick with the team is a kick in the balls after last season tbh. Frustration and anger from us to get forward in the final minutes and try to win, instead of fannying about at the back is entirely understandable - I shocked he and others are shocked.

 

[Drico]

I said it after the nightmare last season - not sure the fans have got another great escape in us. I certainly don’t think I have, last season was traumatic and exhausting for me personally. The sleepless nights, stress and worry aren’t something I can go through again, so I think I’ve made a conscious decision to try and not let it affect me as much, and maybe that’s taken away some of my “enthusiasm” at the match, but I think im protecting myself, and I am sure others are - the crowd was quiet yesterday, but I’m not going to blame or go in on any fan for protecting themselves and not giving as much “support”at the game. It can’t keep falling to the fans to spark these players into action - it should be the other way round.

Lampard telling the fans to be patient and stick with the team is a kick in the balls after last season tbh. Frustration and anger from us to get forward in the final minutes and try to win, instead of fannying about at the back is entirely understandable - I shocked he and others are shocked.

The only thing keeping Lampard in a job were the fans. His little dig at them will do him no favours whatsoever. If the players - and the manager - can't cope with fan expectation, maybe they shouldn't be at the club.

 

[NSNO1878EFC]

We escaped from this position last season so it’s not as desperate as this yet but we’re going to need a great January where we get at least a striker and a creative player in or I can’t see things improving much with the squad we have unless Calvert Lewin can stay fit.