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[peteblue]

The country is in contraction, which is the opposite of growing.

Wreck might be a bit dramatic, but we have a deficit approaching 100% of GDP. It's a big problem mate.

I honestly have no idea what working people going on strike have to do with this. My partner was on strike recently. It's not people like us who have caused this mess Pete. We are the victims of it. I'd love to see a Tory MP come to my house and try that schtick and try to insult me and my family with that nonsense.

We will probably recover, it's a great country, but it's going to be a lot more difficult. You can minimise the pound and gilts, but it means we are having to pay more in terms of day to day items, and more on mortgages. No idea if you're a mortgage holder, but when our fix comes up, it is going to be horrendous. I'm still not sure how we will afford it.

But hey, if my partner goes on strike for a pay rise a tiny fraction of the increase in mortgages, she/we are the problem?

Worth noting, tory MPs always give themselves a substantial wage rise too (way beyond the plebs like us get, the mugs who have to work to provide the money for them).

Its woeful, and I think a lot of people are at their wits end, and just cant hear "oh it might get better". A tory MP better stay away from our house come election time.

We are all affected, everyone’s family... Tories and Labour alike……

 

[Blue 1]

The economy is not wrecked. We had problems with the £ and Gilt %. They will resolve themselves. The U.K. economy is fine and growing. The only thing that will slow it down is union strikes and the BBC and co trying to run us down. The government is screwed, Truss made a mess of the mini budget, but where were the permanent secretaries within our rolls royce civil service who advise them. A lot has gone wrong but it can all be fixed…..

Where were the permanent secretaries?

Kwarteng sacked his, Peter, and replaced him with a yes man.

FFS.

 

[peteblue]

Then show some common sense and stop voting for the idiots who caused it, Jesus.

It would make no difference. Every Labour government has done the same. I’ve seen this played out numerous times in my life …..

 

[catcherintherye]

We are all affected, everyone’s family... Tories and Labour alike……

Of course.

Its going to be difficult and cant be minimised.

We will get through it, but there will be real pain along the way. It didnt have to be this difficult though.

 

[catcherintherye]

It would make no difference. Every Labour government has done the same. I’ve seen this played out numerous times in my life …..

The thing is, Labour have to inherit the mess of the tories, and generally do things fine.

Black Monday, this shambles, the 80s recessions. The tories just keep repeating the same mistakes.

I'm not a massive fan of Brown, but at least the country/economy was growing, and when a crisis his, he stepped in and sorted it quickly.

 

[Taifi gorm]

So she's not even the worst person in the family

Oh there may be more

 

[summerisle]

The economy is not wrecked. We had problems with the £ and Gilt %. They will resolve themselves. The U.K. economy is fine and growing. The only thing that will slow it down is union strikes and the BBC and co trying to run us down. The government is screwed, Truss made a mess of the mini budget, but where were the permanent secretaries within our rolls royce civil service who advise them. A lot has gone wrong but it can all be fixed…..

Yep, it's all going swimmingly.

UK is only G7 country with smaller economy than before Covid-19

ONS says GDP grew by 0.2% in three months to June, suggesting Britain is not in recession

www.theguardian.com

 

[peteblue]

The thing is, Labour have to inherit the mess of the tories, and generally do things fine.

Black Monday, this shambles, the 80s recessions. The tories just keep repeating the same mistakes.

I'm not a massive fan of Brown, but at least the country/economy was growing, and when a crisis his, he stepped in and sorted it quickly.

Gordon Brown screwed the U.K. pensions, he screwed the U.K. telecoms industry and opened it to China, he wasted money like it was going out of fashion, and then before being thrown out of office raised the top rate of tax to 45% as a bear trap for the Tories, his scorched earth approach is what Cameron and Osborne had to deal with. The man was a disgrace….

 

[JammyP]

 

[peteblue]

Of course.

Its going to be difficult and cant be minimised.

We will get through it, but there will be real pain along the way. It didnt have to be this difficult though.

Of course not, but this is not just the U.K. even though everyone likes to think it is….

 

[summerisle]

The economy is not wrecked. We had problems with the £ and Gilt %. They will resolve themselves. The U.K. economy is fine and growing. The only thing that will slow it down is union strikes and the BBC and co trying to run us down. The government is screwed, Truss made a mess of the mini budget, but where were the permanent secretaries within our rolls royce civil service who advise them. A lot has gone wrong but it can all be fixed…..

They 'left' or were sacked.

Understanding the UK Civil Service - Dismissal - Permanent Secretaries

Peter Kemp, Philip Rutnam, Richard Heaton, Simon McDonald, Jonathan Slater, Mark Sedwill

www.civilservant.org.uk

 

[peteblue]

Anyway, just been reading that Boris is picking up support at a rate of knots…but I really must go to bed now…

 

[JammyP]

Anyway Ladies and Gents, enjoy your evening crowing over the demise of Truss, and slag off the Tories to your hearts content. But remember this, they will still be in charge for at least the next two years…I’m off to bed…..

Don't fret Pete, the COVID Inquiry will have got to corruption in procurement by then. Toast.
Hopefully for generations. Miserable that they and you think they should have 2 more years to crown the last 12 years of "success".

 

[JammyP]

We are all affected, everyone’s family... Tories and Labour alike……

Yes Pete. That is the point.

 

[JammyP]

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