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POLL: Do you want Moyes back?

According to the BBC, Marco Silva is set to be sacked with David Moyes on Everton’s shortlist as a potential replacement.

Do you want David Moyes back as Everton manager? Vote in our poll;

This poll has ended (since 10 months).
No
6,639
Yes
1,586

  1. It’s ace and infuriating at the same time watching all the media fumble around for reasons why Ancelotti would possibly come to Everton when Dave Moyes is available.

  2. [QUOTE=”DanEFC92, post: 7504170, member: 13652″]
    [MEDIA=twitter]1205132650089975809[/MEDIA]
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    That aged well.

  3. I still believe Moyes should be Caretaker.

    By Caretaker I mean Janitor of course. Those bogs don’t clean themselves.

  4. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7486155, member: 3358″]
    Poch said no
    Pereira said no
    Rafa said no
    Emery said no
    Kovac said no
    Ancelotti will say no
    Arteta said no
    Marcelino said no
    Howe said no
    Simeone said no
    ten Hag said no
    Gallardo said no
    Jesus said no
    [/QUOTE]

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  5. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7490036, member: 3358″]
    ??????

    You think Marcel has spent the last week getting knocked back by just Vitor?

    Hes on the blower hourly Mike.
    [/QUOTE]

    id say he has them all in a WhatsApp group just waiting for one of them to bite, Moyes has been removed from the group

  6. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7490036, member: 3358″]
    ??????

    You think Marcel has spent the last week getting knocked back by just Vitor?

    Hes on the blower hourly Mike.
    [/QUOTE]

    I don’t think Carlo Ancelotti is his 14th choice.

  7. [QUOTE=”FTY, post: 7487364, member: 11945″]
    Boris and Moyes. Last month of the decade is gonna be the grimmest
    [/QUOTE]
    Well both would definately keep us out of europe.

  8. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7487356, member: 47334″]
    Carry On Secretary!
    [/QUOTE]
    I think he means this one
    ‘The Secretary’ with James Spader and Maggie Gyllenhaal (maybe nsfw)

  9. [QUOTE=”Gaffa, post: 7488187, member: 33636″]
    New name appeared on the running on Skybet haha

    Adrian Heath haha
    [/QUOTE]
    The new Brad Bobley!

  10. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7490035, member: 17469″]
    Rofling at that
    [/QUOTE]

    ??????

    You think Marcel has spent the last week getting knocked back by just Vitor?

    Hes on the blower hourly Mike.

  11. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7486155, member: 3358″]
    Poch said no
    Pereira said no
    Rafa said no
    Emery said no
    Kovac said no
    Ancelotti will say no
    Arteta said no
    Marcelino said no
    Howe said no
    Simeone said no
    ten Hag said no
    Gallardo said no
    Jesus said no

    The man from Moyes, he said YES.
    [/QUOTE]

    Rofling at that

  12. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486825, member: 47334″]
    Oops meant Kendall!
    [/QUOTE]

    If nothing else, this has to be worth a temp ban.

  13. [QUOTE=”4737carlin, post: 7487656, member: 17264″]
    Dont forget the Derby loss just to rub it in
    [/QUOTE]
    No!!! Dunc showed the good guys can (and will) win

  14. [QUOTE=”Simon (brum), post: 7487535, member: 34066″]
    Didnt he play for Coventry and Wales???………
    [/QUOTE]
    I remember him running around in the nude for Newcastle playing just off of Alan Shearer!

  15. [QUOTE=”Rob17896, post: 7487613, member: 36790″]
    It was called Secretary…not a carry on in name at least.
    [/QUOTE]
    Yeah, but this is my version! lol

  16. [QUOTE=”FTY, post: 7487364, member: 11945″]
    Boris and Moyes. Last month of the decade is gonna be the grimmest
    [/QUOTE]
    Dont forget the Derby loss just to rub it in

  17. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7487356, member: 47334″]
    Carry On Secretary!
    [/QUOTE]
    It was called Secretary…not a carry on in name at least.

  18. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7487209, member: 47334″]
    It was a David Bellamy joke! Mixing up the names, mixing up naturalist for naturist…..

    … oh never mind!
    [/QUOTE]
    Didnt he play for Coventry and Wales???………

  19. [QUOTE=”Rob17896, post: 7487342, member: 36790″]
    Where you a secretary in a film?
    [/QUOTE]
    Carry On Secretary!

  20. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486983, member: 47334″]
    I really deserve it. The worst thing is I made the exact same mistake before, so I really have no excuse.
    [/QUOTE]
    Where you a secretary in a film?

  21. [QUOTE=”Dooguk, post: 7487179, member: 7919″]
    I have never seen him on TV bollocko and he isn’t dead, so no.
    [/QUOTE]
    It was a David Bellamy joke! Mixing up the names, mixing up naturalist for naturist…..

    … oh never mind!

  22. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7487083, member: 47334″]
    David Attenborough – isn’t he the naturist guy who died the other day?
    [/QUOTE]
    I have never seen him on TV bollocko and he isn’t dead, so no.

  23. [QUOTE=”Dooguk, post: 7486090, member: 7919″]
    Just a reminder that we came 4th with a -1 goal difference.

    Weird season
    [/QUOTE]

    Remember we win about six games on the trot with 1-0 🙂

    The Arsenal game at the end totally skewed the goal difference.

  24. [QUOTE=”Dooguk, post: 7487059, member: 7919″]
    Maybe David Attenborough?
    [/QUOTE]
    David Attenborough – isn’t he the naturist guy who died the other day?

  25. [QUOTE=”blue to the bone, post: 7487062, member: 1929″]
    If I was you I’d step away anyway
    Bigging up moyes like you do is bad.
    But not remembering the name of the greatest Evertonian of all is a disgrace!
    [/QUOTE]
    Boneheaded, moronic, foolish and idiotic, yes. Disgraceful, probably not.

  26. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7487028, member: 47334″]
    No, its definitely Moyes. The balding bloke in the well-polished brown shoes….
    [/QUOTE]
    If I was you I’d step away anyway
    Bigging up moyes like you do is bad.
    But not remembering the name of the greatest Evertonian of all is a disgrace!

  27. [QUOTE=”blue to the bone, post: 7487014, member: 1929″]
    Maybe when you keep praising moyes it is a mistake and you really mean someone else !
    [/QUOTE]
    Maybe David Attenborough?

  28. [QUOTE=”blue to the bone, post: 7487014, member: 1929″]
    Maybe when you keep praising moyes it is a mistake and you really mean someone else !
    [/QUOTE]
    No, its definitely Moyes. The balding bloke in the well-polished brown shoes….

  29. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486983, member: 47334″]
    I really deserve it. The worst thing is I made the exact same mistake before, so I really have no excuse.
    [/QUOTE]
    Maybe when you keep praising moyes it is a mistake and you really mean someone else !

  30. [QUOTE=”Rob17896, post: 7486979, member: 36790″]
    They will!
    [/QUOTE]
    I really deserve it. The worst thing is I made the exact same mistake before, so I really have no excuse.

  31. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486889, member: 47334″]
    Its not really a good excuse for such a stupid gaffe, but Kendall was before my time.

    Anyway, I apologise. Feel free to mock me mercilessly!
    [/QUOTE]
    They will!

  32. [QUOTE=”yakublue, post: 7486958, member: 14280″]
    Don’t even know what to say
    [/QUOTE]
    I just typed it without thinking!

  33. [QUOTE=”TippEverton, post: 7486900, member: 6844″]
    An Evertonian mistaking our most successful manager for Howard Wilkinson.

    Easy happen lads,,,, LADS ?
    [/QUOTE]
    Don’t even know what to say

  34. [QUOTE=”blue61, post: 7486930, member: 6603″]
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    [/QUOTE]
    I concur – I made an ass of myself!

  35. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486722, member: 47334″]
    Love how you guys pull one quote out of context and use it to define our most successful manager since Wilkinson.
    [/QUOTE]
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  36. [QUOTE=”TippEverton, post: 7486900, member: 6844″]
    An Evertonian mistaking our most successful manager for Howard Wilkinson.

    Easy happen lads,,,, LADS ?
    [/QUOTE]
    I really have no good excuse – It is a bit like mixing up Jock Stein with Jock Wallace!

  37. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486889, member: 47334″]
    Feel free to mock me mercilessly!
    [/QUOTE]

    You’re advocating David Moyes. I’ll just leave you to it.

  38. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7486874, member: 37364″]
    Which is, what your really mean. And just blurt it out.
    [/QUOTE]
    Its not really a good excuse for such a stupid gaffe, but Kendall was before my time.

    Anyway, I apologise. Feel free to mock me mercilessly!

  39. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486855, member: 47334″]
    It was a Freudian slip!
    [/QUOTE]

    Which is, what you really mean. And just blurt it out.

  40. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7486851, member: 37364″]
    Do you mean Howard Wilkenson, Is Leeds Utd your other team mate?
    [/QUOTE]
    I have actually mixed up their names before. It’s very embarrassing.

  41. [QUOTE=”blue to the bone, post: 7486834, member: 1929″]
    Think you have been rumbled mate.
    [/QUOTE]
    It was a Freudian slip!

  42. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486722, member: 47334″]
    our most successful manager since Wilkinson.
    [/QUOTE]

    Do you mean Howard Wilkenson, Is Leeds Utd your other team mate?

  43. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486722, member: 47334″]
    Love how you guys pull one quote out of context and use it to define our most successful manager since Wilkinson.
    [/QUOTE]
    [USER=1]@GrandOldTeam[/USER] FFS?????

  44. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486825, member: 47334″]
    Oops meant Kendall!
    [/QUOTE]
    Think you have been rumbled mate.

  45. [QUOTE=”blue to the bone, post: 7486754, member: 1929″]
    Wilkinson??
    [/QUOTE]
    Yes, I believe his record trumps Royle’s due to longevity and league performance.

  46. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486722, member: 47334″]
    Love how you guys pull one quote out of context and use it to define our most successful manager since Wilkinson.
    [/QUOTE]
    Wilkinson??

  47. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7486708, member: 37364″]
    Can you imagine another season let alone a decade of that?
    [/QUOTE]
    Love how you guys pull one quote out of context and use it to define our most successful manager since Wilkinson.

  48. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7486668, member: 52747″]
    Is what you’re saying that we bring a knife to a gun fight?
    [/QUOTE]

    Can you imagine another season let alone a decade of that?

  49. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7486668, member: 52747″]
    Is what you’re saying that we bring a knife to a gun fight?
    [/QUOTE]
    Ha ha ha! Anyway, there are much bigger matters at the moment. Looks like the Tories have had their best result since 1987 and Labour their worst since 1929!

  50. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486569, member: 47334″]
    We’ve won 15 major trophies (excluding Charity Shield) in 141 years. Expecting to win silverware seems a bit much. Hoping yes, and expecting to challenge, of course.
    [/QUOTE]
    Is what you’re saying that we bring a knife to a gun fight?

  51. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486569, member: 47334″]
    Expecting to win silverware seems a bit much. Hoping yes, and expecting to challenge, of course.
    [/QUOTE]

    Our failure to win silverware rests squarely with inept board members who insist on hiring managers unsuitable for the job and hoping for a silk purse from a sows ear.

  52. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486569, member: 47334″]
    We’ve won 15 major trophies (excluding Charity Shield) in 141 years. Expecting to win silverware seems a bit much. Hoping yes, and expecting to challenge, of course.
    [/QUOTE]
    You expect mediocrity and you get mediocrity.
    I see now why you are such a Moyse acolyte.
    He delivers to you exactly what you expect,
    nothing.

  53. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486355, member: 8080″]
    Did you watch & observe Davey Moyes during his 11year reign hear as Evrton manager….

    His passion & love for this club was clearly evident….
    [/QUOTE]
    How , please elaborate.
    Just repeating the same meaningless phrase over and over again doesnt make it true.
    Provide some demonstrable evidence of this strong affection you claim he has for us.
    He was here for money, he left for personal glory and with a string of failures behind him he is now desperate to crawl back .
    If there is any relationship here it resembles an abusive one and Everton are cast as the victim.

  54. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7486559, member: 37364″]
    Well the goalposts are exactly the same as when he was at the club as they are now. Evertonians beside yourself, generally expect, not demand, but expect the club considering it’s history to win silverware.

    We don’t need to rewrite history when it comes to David Moyes tenure. Because as you have pointed out, he bought stability, while working under a strict budget. My point is we have had managers before who worked under similar constraints and delivered silverware.

    There is nothing to suggest in his record since leaving the club that he could deliver a trophy, let alone compete. He had ample opportunity to achieve that goal when he went running into the arms of Manchester United.
    [/QUOTE]
    We’ve won 15 major trophies (excluding Charity Shield) in 141 years. Expecting to win silverware seems a bit much. Hoping yes, and expecting to challenge, of course.

  55. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7486559, member: 37364″]
    Well the goalposts are exactly the same as when he was at the club as they are now. Evertonians beside yourself, generally expect, not demand, but expect the club considering it’s history to win silverware.

    We don’t need to rewrite history when it comes to David Moyes tenure. Because as you have pointed out, he bought stability, while working under a strict budget. My point is we have had managers before who worked under similar constraints and delivered silverware.

    There is nothing to suggest in his record since leaving the club that he could deliver a trophy, let alone compete. He had ample opportunity to achieve that goal when he went running into the arms of Manchester United.
    [/QUOTE]
    Is right, Kendall hardly had no bigger spending power than Moist.

  56. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486493, member: 47334″]
    Now you are moving the goalposts. Expecting to compete for honours is vastly different to expecting silverware. And we did in fact compete for honours when he was in charge, both in Europe, and in at home. We lacked the quality of the Sky 4 of course, who had much higher funding.
    [/QUOTE]

    Well the goalposts are exactly the same as when he was at the club as they are now. Evertonians beside yourself, generally expect, not demand, but expect the club considering it’s history to win silverware.

    We don’t need to rewrite history when it comes to David Moyes tenure. Because as you have pointed out, he bought stability, while working under a strict budget. My point is we have had managers before who worked under similar constraints and delivered silverware.

    There is nothing to suggest in his record since leaving the club that he could deliver a trophy, let alone compete. He had ample opportunity to achieve that goal when he went running into the arms of Manchester United.

  57. Wasn’t he rocking up at Carrington before he’d even managed his last game with us?

    Unprofessional at best…

  58. [QUOTE=”blue61, post: 7486496, member: 6603″]
    Ignore him mate, he’s obviously a davek disciple on the wind up.
    [/QUOTE]
    Yeah – Davek adores Moyesie! lol

  59. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486307, member: 8080″]
    Moyes had more passion than Koeman,Martinez & Silva put together & he still loves us….
    [/QUOTE]
    This is true but still dosent mean he is the right man for the job, give Dunc another 3 or 4 games first

  60. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7486483, member: 37364″]
    Spurs haven’t won the league title since the early 60’s, do you think their supporters don’t expect the club to compete for honours. Why do you think they just hired Mourinho? It’s not cause they all wanna sit round and sing kumbaya.

    It’s a statement of intent on behalf of the club just as, disastrously re-hiring David Moyes, would be a statement of intent of our club.
    [/QUOTE]
    Ignore him mate, he’s obviously a davek disciple on the wind up.

  61. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: [COLOR=currentcolor]7486483[/COLOR], member: 37364″]
    Spurs haven’t won the league title since the early 60’s, do you think their supporters don’t expect the club to compete for honours. Why do you think they just hired Mourinho? It’s not cause they all wanna sit round and sing kumbaya.

    It’s a statement of intent on behalf of the club just as, disastrously re-hiring David Moyes, would be a statement of intent of our club.
    [/QUOTE]
    Now you are moving the goalposts. Expecting to compete for honours is vastly different to expecting silverware. And we did in fact compete for honours when he was in charge, both in Europe, and in at home. We lacked the quality of the Sky 4 of course, who had much higher funding.

  62. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486460, member: 47334″]
    You guys are acting like spoiled brats. No team has a right to win ANYTHING. It has to be earned.
    [/QUOTE]

    Spurs haven’t won the league title since the early 60’s, do you think their supporters don’t expect the club to compete for honours. Why do you think they just hired Mourinho? It’s not cause they all wanna sit round and sing kumbaya.

    It’s a statement of intent on behalf of the club just as, disastrously re-hiring David Moyes, would be a statement of intent of our club.

  63. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486460, member: 47334″]
    You guys are acting like spoiled brats. No team has a right to win ANYTHING. It has to be earned.
    [/QUOTE]
    Why on earth are you still in love with this guy ? He’s a proven loser

  64. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486460, member: 47334″]
    You guys are acting like spoiled brats. No team has a right to win ANYTHING. It has to be earned.
    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah we know. That’s why we don’t want a manager who in a 20 year career has won, I think, one manager of the month award.

  65. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486444, member: 47334″]
    You expect silverware? It’s been a quarter of a century since we last won a cup!
    [/QUOTE]
    From a manager coming back I’d at least like to think it was because he won something in his decade when first in charge

  66. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486444, member: 47334″]
    You expect silverware? It’s been a quarter of a century since we last won a cup!
    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah actually I do. It’s called being an Evertonian mate.

  67. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7486424, member: 37364″]
    So achievement is based on stability and working on a limited budget? He really did achieve by not achieving then. Mediocrity personified.

    Personally, my expectations for the club include winning silverware. We’ve had managers at the club who have done that before, on a limited budget and when we were nearer the bottom of the league than the top.

    I don’t know if they were in your lifetime but they’re my yardstick.
    [/QUOTE]
    You expect silverware? It’s been a quarter of a century since we last won a cup!

  68. [QUOTE=”Rudolf Hucker, post: 7486395, member: 40648″]
    ^^^ This.

    He belongs in the bin with Pardew & Hughes & Malkie Mackay. He took us as far as he could, that was clear to see. He’s a dinosaur & threatens to slap women.
    [/QUOTE]
    Yep, it’s a measure of how far we have fallen, how small time our mentality is that we would go BACK to a manager that plays for draws and has never won a thing of note in 20 years!
    So sad

  69. Chairman of our shareholders association is suitably scathing about Moyes in this from about 25:00

    Says he thinks the only reason he’s in the conversation is journalists trying to make a story out of limited insight. Doesn’t believe even Kenwright wants him. Doesn’t see any place for him in the current structure of the club. Is a failure. Nobody else wants him. Would bring back his old staff. Would be an indictiment of total failure at every level of the club.

    He’s good on how he thinks the process works straight after the Moyes stuff too.

    [MEDIA=youtube]NotgYxrh-VE[/MEDIA]

  70. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486335, member: 47334″]
    Funny how people attack him, call him uninspiring, etc, but then totally discount all the stuff he achieved at the club!
    [/QUOTE]

    So achievement is based on stability and working on a limited budget? He really did achieve by not achieving then. Mediocrity personified.

    Personally, my expectations for the club include winning silverware. We’ve had managers at the club who have done that before, on a limited budget and when we were nearer the bottom of the league than the top.

    I don’t know if they were in your lifetime but they’re my yardstick.

  71. [QUOTE=”bol-uk, post: 7486356, member: 11150″]
    He can’t get or keep a job anywhere for a reason
    [/QUOTE]

    ^^^ This.

    He belongs in the bin with Pardew & Hughes & Malkie Mackay. He took us as far as he could, that was clear to see. He’s a dinosaur & threatens to slap women.

  72. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486355, member: 8080″]
    Did you watch & observe Davey Moyes during his 11year reign hear as Evrton manager….

    His passion & love for this club was clearly evident….
    [/QUOTE]

    His passion and love was that great that the snide ran his contract down, whilst he was in talks with Man U behind the clubs back.

    Then promised that he wouldn’t come back for any players, then did his best to unsettle Baines and Coleman.

    He’s a snake of the highest order.

  73. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486355, member: 8080″]
    Did you watch & observe Davey Moyes during his 11year reign hear as Evrton manager….

    His passion & love for this club was clearly evident….
    [/QUOTE]

    Where was his love when he lied to his employer and the supporters about his intentions to stay?

  74. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7486328, member: 52747″]
    How does this love express itself, exactly?
    [/QUOTE]

    Did you watch & observe Davey Moyes during his 11year reign hear as Evrton manager….

    His passion & love for this club was clearly evident….

  75. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486279, member: 8080″]
    Exactly, we have tried the young ambitious foreign managers it has not worked…..

    Moyes knows Everton he loves Everton & he has the passion to get us back up that table & into Europe…

    The same posters on here moaning about Davey Moyes are the very same posters who take the xxxx out of DCL which really is unforgivable & clearly wrong just as they are about Moyes….
    [/QUOTE]
    Good god

  76. Funny how people attack him, call him uninspiring, etc, but then totally discount all the stuff he achieved at the club!

    If he was so uninspiring, why where we the hardest working side in the league?

  77. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486307, member: 8080″]
    Moyes had more passion than Koeman,Martinez & Silva put together & he still loves us….
    [/QUOTE]
    I may have a different concept of ‘love ‘ than you. My understanding is that you do not slyly deceive the object of your love, nor do you desert that object of your affection no matter what the temptation and you certainly don’t attempt to bully and sneer at your love after you have deserted them for someone else.
    None of that suggests love to me.
    But maybe I am just an old romantic in this cynical modern world.

  78. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486307, member: 8080″]
    Moyes had more passion than Koeman,Martinez & Silva put together & he still loves us….
    [/QUOTE]

    How does this love express itself, exactly?

  79. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7486300, member: 52747″]
    Listen Dave, I’ve tried to be diplomatic and measured in why I don’t want you back but let’s get down to brass tacks. You called Everton fans disgusting, weaseled your way out of the club by running down your contract so the richest team in the world wouldn’t compensate us whilst lying straight to our faces and, most damningly, you’re a serial failure and nobody else in football will touch you,

    You’re only in the conversation here because you know how to find the canteen, basically.
    [/QUOTE]

    Your disgruntled I get that..

    But hear is the thing who else do you suggest we get…

    Moyes is our best bet it is the stability we need first before we can move on….

  80. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486307, member: 8080″]
    Moyes had more passion than Koeman,Martinez & Silva put together & he still loves us….
    [/QUOTE]
    So does speedo mick

  81. [QUOTE=”Eggsyblueskin, post: 7486299, member: 22869″]
    There is no extant evidence that I know of that can give proof to your risible claim that Moyes ever ‘loved’ Everton.
    I am , however , certain he loved the generous wages and the rather undemanding performance targets.
    [/QUOTE]

    Moyes had more passion than Koeman,Martinez & Silva put together & he still loves us….

  82. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486279, member: 8080″]
    Exactly, we have tried the young ambitious foreign managers it has not worked…..

    Moyes knows Everton he loves Everton & he has the passion to get us back up that table & into Europe…

    The same posters on here moaning about Davey Moyes are the very same posters who take the xxxx out of DCL which really is unforgivable & clearly wrong just as they are about Moyes….
    [/QUOTE]

    Listen Dave, I’ve tried to be diplomatic and measured in why I don’t want you back but let’s get down to brass tacks. You called Everton fans disgusting, weaseled your way out of the club by running down your contract so the richest team in the world wouldn’t compensate us whilst lying straight to our faces and, most damningly, you’re a serial failure and nobody else in football will touch you,

    You’re only in the conversation here because you know how to find the canteen, basically.

  83. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486279, member: 8080″]
    Exactly, we have tried the young ambitious foreign managers it has not worked…..

    Moyes knows Everton he loves Everton & he has the passion to get us back up that table & into Europe…

    The same posters on here moaning about Davey Moyes are the very same posters who take the xxxx out of DCL which really is unforgivable & clearly wrong just as they are about Moyes….
    [/QUOTE]
    There is no extant evidence that I know of that can give proof to your risible claim that Moyes ever ‘loved’ Everton.
    I am , however , certain he loved the generous wages and the rather undemanding performance targets.

  84. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486279, member: 8080″]
    Exactly, we have tried the young ambitious foreign managers it has not worked…..

    Moyes knows Everton he loves Everton & he has the passion to get us back up that table & into Europe…

    The same posters on here moaning about Davey Moyes are the very same posters who take the xxxx out of DCL which really is unforgivable & clearly wrong just as they are about Moyes….
    [/QUOTE]
    Maybe this will jog some memories:

    in the decade before he was appointed Everton manager the Blues had managed one single top half finish, in 1996 under Joe Royle.

    From two skin of the teeth relegation escapes in 1994 and 1998 – and successive finishes of 15th, 17th, 14th, 13th, 16th and 15th – Moyes guided Everton to seventh, 17th, fourth, 11th, sixth, fifth, fifth, eighth, seventh, seventh, sixth and fifth.

    Also a first cup final in 14 years.

    Of Everton’s five youngest players in history, four were blooded on his watch – Wayne Rooney, Jose Baxter, Jack Rodwell and James Vaughan.

    Moyes was also behind the move to bring the first team and youth squads together on one site while in 2009 Everton had five youth academy products in their playing squad. Only Manchester United had more.

    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-david-moyes-ever-everton-12635316[/URL]

  85. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486248, member: 47334″]
    So if you won 100K on the lottery you would say you lost, as you didn’t win the jackpot?!?

    There is way more to evaluating a manager’s performance than just winning trophies. If that was the case managers would not leave Celtic to work in the Championship
    [/QUOTE]
    This is a competitive sport , success is measured in silverware.
    Survival is the bare minimum required .
    All that lies in between is mediocre.
    Moyes was mediocre.
    Plus he’s a particularly uninspiring manager.

  86. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486235, member: 47334″]
    What I find weird is the likes of Silva and Martinez have more goodwill than a manager who was with the club through 11 years and nursed it through some of its toughest times. All because he took the biggest job in football management?!? (With the possible exception of Real Madrid)
    [/QUOTE]

    Exactly, we have tried the young ambitious foreign managers it has not worked…..

    Moyes knows Everton he loves Everton & he has the passion to get us back up that table & into Europe…

    The same posters on here moaning about Davey Moyes are the very same posters who take the xxxx out of DCL which really is unforgivable & clearly wrong just as they are about Moyes….

  87. [QUOTE=”Real_madras, post: 7486253, member: 2185″]
    If he gets the job, I will support him as much as anyone else. If I was him I wouldn’t take it though. Obviously the owner doesn’t really want him and a large section of the fans.
    [/QUOTE]

    I normally support our managers, but I wont support him, I will of course support the team, but when he comes in, I want him out as soon as that whistle blows at Wembley in the cup final.

  88. [QUOTE=”bol-uk, post: 7486254, member: 11150″]
    What, failed to win a single thing or beat big 6 away. Sorry but you just found nostalgic for very average times in the history of EFC
    [/QUOTE]
    He beat Man City away.

  89. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486192, member: 8080″]
    Glad it gave you a wry smile….

    However I hope you take my point seriously as we have had Martinez,Koeman & Silva since Moyes all who have failed to achieve what Moyes achieved here….

    My point was a fair one considering some animosity when Moyes left for Man utd & some fans will never forgive him for doing that no matter what he did here under the restraints he had….
    [/QUOTE]
    What, failed to win a single thing or beat big 6 away? Sorry but you just sound nostalgic for very average times in the history of EFC

  90. If he gets the job, I will support him as much as anyone else. If I was him I wouldn’t take it though. Obviously the owner doesn’t really want him and a large section of the fans.

  91. [QUOTE=”Eggsyblueskin, post: 7486238, member: 22869″]
    Actually all the managers you mention achieved exactly the same as Moyes, absolutely nothing.
    They just took less time.
    [/QUOTE]
    So if you won 100K on the lottery you would say you lost, as you didn’t win the jackpot?!?

    There is way more to evaluating a manager’s performance than just winning trophies. If that was the case managers would not leave Celtic to work in the Championship

  92. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486192, member: 8080″]
    Glad it gave you a wry smile….

    However I hope you take my point seriously as we have had Martinez,Koeman & Silva since Moyes all who have failed to achieve what Moyes achieved here….

    My point was a fair one considering some animosity when Moyes left for Man utd & some fans will never forgive him for doing that no matter what he did here under the restraints he had….
    [/QUOTE]
    Actually all the managers you mention achieved exactly the same as Moyes, absolutely nothing.
    They just took less time.

  93. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486226, member: 8080″]
    I find this peculiar…

    Plenty of Moyes fans out there being drained out or to frightened to voice their opinion through fear of being ridiculed by social media etc….
    [/QUOTE]
    What I find weird is the likes of Silva and Martinez have more goodwill than a manager who was with the club through 11 years and nursed it through some of its toughest times. All because he took the biggest job in football management?!? (With the possible exception of Real Madrid)

  94. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486226, member: 8080″]
    I find this peculiar…

    Plenty of Moyes fans out there being drained out or to frightened to voice their opinion through fear of being ridiculed by social media etc….
    [/QUOTE]

    Moyes fans should be openly mocked.

  95. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7485763, member: 1″]
    It’s our obligation to inform you that we ran background checks on your account.

    We had genuine reason to suspect you was David Moyes’ agent which would call into question the integrity of your posts.

    It appears we were not correct, please accept our apology for the intrusion.
    [/QUOTE]

    I find this peculiar…

    Plenty of Moyes fans out there being drained out or to frightened to voice their opinion through fear of being ridiculed by social media etc….

  96. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7486213, member: 3358″]
    Mate I was pro-Moyes long after everybody else hated him.

    His comments at United didnt bother me regarding Felli and Baines, nor when he said Everton fans are a disgrace, I dont and have never blamed him for leaving for United.

    What he did here, with the resources he had was nothing short of marvelous, he took us from the bottom to near the top, but that was a long time ago and at the end I was kind of glad to see him go, simply cos no matter his strengths, his weaknesses were always going to hold us back.

    Since he left us hes stank at United, stank in Spain, took Sunderland down and had a terrible win rate at West Ham.

    Appointing him would do the same as when we appointed Sam, it highlighted just how much of a nothing club we are, cos managers like Moyes and Sam only join nothing teams.

    Moyes has been without question our best manager since Kendall first time around, but just cos Martinez, Koeman and Silva were crap, it doesnt mean we go back to a manager whos best year in his whole career ended with defeat at Wembley or getting knocked out of the CL at the first proper hurdle.

    People have different reasons why they dont want Moyes back, for me its cos hes a really crap manager.
    [/QUOTE]
    Bit arrogant to say Man Utd, Real Sociedad, Sunderland and West Ham are nothing teams. Seriously, get a grip.

    Even in league one Sunderland is a massive club with a lot of history.

  97. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7486192, member: 8080″]
    Glad it gave you a wry smile….

    However I hope you take my point seriously as we have had Martinez,Koeman & Silva since Moyes all who have failed to achieve what Moyes achieved here….

    My point was a fair one considering some animosity when Moyes left for Man utd & some fans will never forgive him for doing that no matter what he did here under the restraints he had….
    [/QUOTE]

    Mate I was pro-Moyes long after everybody else hated him.

    His comments at United didnt bother me regarding Felli and Baines, nor when he said Everton fans are a disgrace, I dont and have never blamed him for leaving for United.

    What he did here, with the resources he had was nothing short of marvelous, he took us from the bottom to near the top, but that was a long time ago and at the end I was kind of glad to see him go, simply cos no matter his strengths, his weaknesses were always going to hold us back.

    Since he left us hes stank at United, stank in Spain, took Sunderland down and had a terrible win rate at West Ham.

    Appointing him would do the same as when we appointed Sam, it highlighted just how much of a nothing club we are, cos managers like Moyes and Sam only join nothing teams.

    Moyes has been without question our best manager since Kendall first time around, but just cos Martinez, Koeman and Silva were crap, it doesnt mean we go back to a manager whos best year in his whole career ended with defeat at Wembley or getting knocked out of the CL at the first proper hurdle.

    People have different reasons why they dont want Moyes back, for me its cos hes a really crap manager.

  98. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486205, member: 47334″]
    Obviously I knew what you meant – Ferguson retired years ago. But the big man is too much of a gamble, and he admits he is not ready to be a manager yet.

    Let’s be honest too, Saturday was great, but Chelsea could have scored a bundle with more incisive play. Of course, you need luck, but let’s see how things pan out on Saturday trying to play 4-4-2 against a counter-attacking Man Utd team.
    [/QUOTE]
    If they dont commit it will end up like when they gave unsey the helm then panicked and brought in Allardyce

  99. [QUOTE=”steveojcc, post: 7486198, member: 2826″]
    Stop pretending it was sarcasm. You honestly thought I meant Alex haha!

    What would be the point bringing in Moyes short term? Or at all.

    If they are still looking then leave Big Dunc in charge until then.

    That’s what I was saying.
    [/QUOTE]
    Obviously I knew what you meant – Ferguson retired years ago. But the big man is too much of a gamble, and he admits he is not ready to be a manager yet.

    Let’s be honest too, Saturday was great, but Chelsea could have scored a bundle with more incisive play. Of course, you need luck, but let’s see how things pan out on Saturday trying to play 4-4-2 against a counter-attacking Man Utd team.

  100. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486189, member: 47334″]
    Really – I hadn’t realized!
    [/QUOTE]

    Stop pretending it was sarcasm. You honestly thought I meant Alex haha!

    What would be the point bringing in Moyes short term? Or at all.

    If they are still looking then leave Big Dunc in charge until then.

    That’s what I was saying.

  101. [QUOTE=”bol-uk, post: 7484896, member: 11150″]
    From 6 years ago

    [ATTACH=full]73690[/ATTACH]L
    [/QUOTE]
    [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7485635, member: 1″]
    Appreciate the feedback but have to admit to it raising a wry smile.

    We could have used one in a Real Soci, or West Ha…. or Sunderland? Like we did for our social media posts on the subject but nah, we used one of him while manager at one of, if not the worlds biggest clubs – the biggest job he’ll ever have.

    Your own connotation with that picture are exactly that, your own.

    There’s no “if” as to whether we’ll continue to ‘do’ polls, we’ll always quantify sentiment. Whether that’s a poll asking whether a new transfer is a good one – like with [URL=’https://www.grandoldteam.com/2019/08/08/everton-sign-alex-iwobi/’]Iwobi here[/URL], or thoughts on prospective managers – we asked the same question regarding Moyes in 2016, you’ll be glad to know we used a picture of him from his Everton days in that poll – the margin against him was 92% against;

    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.grandoldteam.com/2016/05/26/poll-want-moyes-back/[/URL]
    [/QUOTE]
    [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7485916, member: 47334″]
    People dismissing Moyes out of hand could do with a recap of his time here, as time tends to cloud things.

    This is a good video where you actually get to see how he thought about things tactically, and how he evolved the squad over time.

    [MEDIA=youtube]PdLKZ408Sls[/MEDIA]
    [/QUOTE]

    Glad it gave you a wry smile….

    However I hope you take my point seriously as we have had Martinez,Koeman & Silva since Moyes all who have failed to achieve what Moyes achieved here….

    My point was a fair one considering some animosity when Moyes left for Man utd & some fans will never forgive him for doing that no matter what he did here under the restraints he had….

  102. [QUOTE=”steveojcc, post: 7486185, member: 2826″]
    I was talking about big dunc as in the guy at the helm right now.
    [/QUOTE]
    Really – I hadn’t realized! :p

  103. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486148, member: 47334″]
    Would love Sir Alex myself!
    [/QUOTE]
    I was talking about big dunc as in the guy at the helm right now.

  104. [QUOTE=”Real_madras, post: 7486169, member: 2185″]
    Very true, but they had a better side than we did in that season.
    [/QUOTE]

    They were better than most back then. Did they win the league when we finished 4th? Ancient history to me.

  105. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486161, member: 47334″]
    Worst that happens is he comes here, steadies the ship and gets mugged of in August.
    [/QUOTE]

    Worst that happens is he does what he did a every other job he’s had and oversees a slide down the table.

    BOOOOOOOOO!

  106. [QUOTE=”roydo, post: 7486165, member: 6929″]
    Lets face it, Arsenal under George Graham defended their way to 2 championships.
    [/QUOTE]
    Very true, but they had a better side than we did in that season.

  107. [QUOTE=”LEONARD, post: 7486164, member: 42514″]
    Anybody would think we were some kind of poisoned chalice.

    :coffee:
    [/QUOTE]
    Yes with the odd bit of hope added now and again. We have never really had it good though. 1914 champions, world war 1 started. 1939 world war 2 started. 1984 Hissel banned from Europe. 1987 Kendal left

  108. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7486155, member: 3358″]
    Poch said no
    Pereira said no
    Rafa said no
    Emery said no
    Kovac said no
    Ancelotti will say no
    Arteta said no
    Marcelino said no
    Howe said no
    Simeone said no
    ten Hag said no
    Gallardo said no
    Jesus said no

    The man from Moyes, he said YES.
    [/QUOTE]
    Ya right.

  109. [QUOTE=”Real_madras, post: 7486159, member: 2185″]
    Remember we got battered twice by Arsenal. The away match was after we had achieved 4th. But was a season when we defended our way to 4th.
    [/QUOTE]

    Lets face it, Arsenal under George Graham defended their way to 2 championships.

  110. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7486155, member: 3358″]
    Poch said no
    Pereira said no
    Rafa said no
    Emery said no
    Kovac said no
    Ancelotti will say no
    Arteta said no
    Marcelino said no
    Howe said no
    Simeone said no
    ten Hag said no
    Gallardo said no
    Jesus said no

    The man from Moyes, he said YES.
    [/QUOTE]
    Worst that happens is he comes here, steadies the ship and gets mugged of in August.

  111. [QUOTE=”Dooguk, post: 7486090, member: 7919″]
    Just a reminder that we came 4th with a -1 goal difference.

    Weird season
    [/QUOTE]
    Remember we got battered twice by Arsenal. The away match was after we had achieved 4th. But was a season when we defended our way to 4th.

  112. [QUOTE=”Zezti, post: 7486128, member: 29740″]
    You can’t give Moyes credit for what a team did after he left (he didn’t bring in Lukaku btw), while ignoring the fact he was abysmal with a team that were reigning champions.
    [/QUOTE]
    I think you can. Compare Moyes’ last season and Martinez’ first. Then compare to the following two seasons when Martinez had more control. It suggest that Moyes’ was more influential in that success than Bobby.

  113. [QUOTE=”blue to the bone, post: 7486142, member: 1929″]
    How do we know we have.
    Pereira and emery only 2 definite?
    [/QUOTE]

    Poch said no
    Pereira said no
    Rafa said no
    Emery said no
    Kovac said no
    Ancelotti will say no
    Arteta said no
    Marcelino said no
    Howe said no
    Simeone said no
    ten Hag said no
    Gallardo said no
    Jesus said no

    The man from Moyes, he said YES.

  114. [QUOTE=”blue to the bone, post: 7486136, member: 1929″]
    You are like Geoffrey boycott batting .
    A boring and unspectacular innings like your posts .
    [/QUOTE]
    That’s a class simile lol

  115. [QUOTE=”steveojcc, post: 7486133, member: 2826″]
    I’d rather give Ferguson a shot than hire Moyes again. As long as they are actively after the other qualified targets that have been mentioned.

    Moyes did a good job but that’s the past and everything he has touched since has been awful.

    Sometimes in life there are those that speak in one job and fail at everything else that for me is Moyes.
    [/QUOTE]
    Would love Sir Alex myself!

  116. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7486081, member: 3358″]
    If we appointed Moyes last week, I would have been livid, but sadly the facts are that so far we have approached about 10 managers and every single 1 of them has told us to jog on.

    Nobody can accuse us of not trying.
    [/QUOTE]
    How do we know we have.
    Pereira and emery only 2 definite?

  117. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7485901, member: 47334″]
    When he left in 2013 we finished above them in the league. We were actually in a position of strength after years of building, and a few additions would have seen us top four.

    Sadly Martinez [B]squandered this legacy[/B] and then Moshiri came and and managed to make the team worse despite spending hundreds of millions in transfer fees.
    [/QUOTE]

    What legacy? Hiding under the radar and simply existing in the division without a chance of winning anything.

    If Martinez revolution had been funded properly at the end of the first season we would have had the last of Moyes boys replaced and cracked on attempting a legacy in line with historic Everton rather than the craven Everton created by the Moyes/Kenwright pact

  118. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486057, member: 47334″]
    Not all fans think the same way. Many think it would be good to have a safe, stable manager in charge. At least for a while.

    The club has been an unstable mess for years, and someone with a strong character needs to come in and sort it out.
    [/QUOTE]
    You are like Geoffrey boycott batting .
    A boring and unspectacular innings like your posts .

  119. [QUOTE=”4737carlin, post: 7486102, member: 17264″]
    Yeah I agree with this, none of the fancy names will come, we have to accept where we are, that’s why it will be Moyes, and I do believe we have tried.

    But since Moshiri has come we have done nothing but decline, its depressing, that’s why the standard is dropping.
    Sam to Silva to Moyes, grim times
    [/QUOTE]

    Its just not a very appealing job midseason, our options increase so much in the summer.

  120. I’d rather give Ferguson a shot than hire Moyes again. As long as they are actively after the other qualified targets that have been mentioned.

    Moyes did a good job but that’s the past and everything he has touched since has been awful.

    Sometimes in life there are those that speak in one job and fail at everything else that for me is Moyes.

  121. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486116, member: 47334″]
    So, Everton’s recent peak is David Moyes’ last team/Martinez Year One.

    Yet it is a retrograde step to get in Moyes?!? He is the guy that built that team!
    [/QUOTE]
    You can’t give Moyes credit for what a team did after he left (he didn’t bring in Lukaku btw), while ignoring the fact he was abysmal with a team that were reigning champions.

  122. [QUOTE=”4737carlin, post: 7486102, member: 17264″]
    Yeah I agree with this, none of the fancy names will come, we have to accept where we are, that’s why it will be Moyes, and I do believe we have tried.

    But since Moshiri has come we have done nothing but decline, its depressing, that’s why the standard is dropping.
    Sam to Silva to Moyes, grim times
    [/QUOTE]
    So, Everton’s recent peak is David Moyes’ last team/Martinez Year One.

    Yet it is a retrograde step to get in Moyes?!? He is the guy that built that team!

  123. [QUOTE=”StreetEndBlue, post: 7486105, member: 44832″]
    Erm no. He threw his hat into the ring last time it was available and Stoke looked elsewhere. After over a year and half without a job, he’s in no position to turn anyone down.

    And it seems you’re determined to get Moyes a job. Well can you tell your hero there’s a few teams in the Zingari league looking for managers…but he’d probably get rejected by them too!
    [/QUOTE]
    Thats not true.

  124. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486027, member: 47334″]
    Erm, no. Moyes has knocked back Stoke three or four times now!
    [/QUOTE]

    Erm no. He threw his hat into the ring last time it was available and Stoke looked elsewhere. After over a year and half without a job, he’s in no position to turn anyone down.

    And it seems you’re determined to get Moyes a job. Well can you tell your hero there’s a few teams in the Zingari league looking for managers…but he’d probably get rejected by them too!

  125. [QUOTE=”MarcelsGoat, post: 7486081, member: 3358″]
    If we appointed Moyes last week, I would have been livid, but sadly the facts are that so far we have approached about 10 managers and every single 1 of them has told us to jog on.

    Nobody can accuse us of not trying.
    [/QUOTE]
    Yeah I agree with this, none of the fancy names will come, we have to accept where we are, that’s why it will be Moyes, and I do believe we have tried.

    But since Moshiri has come we have done nothing but decline, its depressing, that’s why the standard is dropping.
    Sam to Silva to Moyes, grim times

  126. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486057, member: 47334″]
    Not all fans think the same way. Many think it would be good to have a safe, stable manager in charge. At least for a while.

    The club has been an unstable mess for years, and someone with a strong character needs to come in and sort it out.
    [/QUOTE]

    You’re presenting opinion as fact. “Safe, stable manager” “Strong character” I’m not sure the clubs he’s mismanaged after he left would agree with you. Hence why he is unemployed.

    However those details are unimportant when you spin your distortions to suit your narrative.

    Moyes would be an unmitigated disaster for the club. It should set off red flags when the only people pushing for his appointment are ex-reds and hacks with an axe to grind.

  127. [QUOTE=”4737carlin, post: 7486077, member: 17264″]
    Its going to be Moyes, Moshiri is the nightmare that keeps giving.
    [/QUOTE]

    If we appointed Moyes last week, I would have been livid, but sadly the facts are that so far we have approached about 10 managers and every single 1 of them has told us to jog on.

    Nobody can accuse us of not trying.

  128. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486057, member: 47334″]
    Not all fans think the same way. Many think it would be good to have a safe, stable manager in charge. At least for a while.

    The club has been an unstable mess for years, and someone with a strong character needs to come in and sort it out.
    [/QUOTE]
    That someone better not be David”well past my sell by date ” Moyes. Last guy this club needs.

  129. [QUOTE=”Encoder, post: 7486040, member: 11540″]
    It’s not even about the ambition. It’s about having self respect. I respect Everton too much to have that knobhead back after stringing us along in his last year and his subsequent conduct at United. I would take pretty much anyone over that dour bellend. Obviously you don’t respect Everton or its fans at all.
    [/QUOTE]
    Not all fans think the same way. Many think it would be good to have a safe, stable manager in charge. At least for a while.

    The club has been an unstable mess for years, and someone with a strong character needs to come in and sort it out.

  130. Moyes is currently being overlooked for a fella whos managed 1 club game in his whole career, thats how little he is thought of.

    Im not saying he wont be given the job, as I keep saying, we aint attracting anybody we really want in December 2 points off relegation, but lets hope Duncan can keep picking up the results so we dont have to get this clown in.

  131. [QUOTE=”Khalekan, post: 7483554, member: 7226″]
    I think if Moyes was coming he would have been in for the Chelsea game.

    Or, if we had lost that, he might have held the club to ransom for an extended contract, just like Sam did after the defeat to Saints,

    That Chelsea victory, the manner in which it was achieved and the feel good factor around the ground before, during, afterwards and in the days following the game has taken so much pressure off.

    Three massive games in a row coming up and I am happy enough right now to see what Dunc can do in them.

    As ever…..Big Nev puts is best.

    [MEDIA=twitter]1204468790672678912[/MEDIA]
    [/QUOTE]

    Dave ain’t gonna like that

  132. [QUOTE=”COYBL25, post: 7486035, member: 8087″]
    Why, because the press want to keep us in our place ???

    This exactly why we don’t need the likes of Moyes, as it just reaffirms us a small club, with a small time mentality.
    [/QUOTE]
    Perhaps. But everyone laughed at Leicester when they appointed Claudio Ranieri.

  133. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486030, member: 47334″]
    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.espn.com/soccer/everton/story/4011408/everton-need-a-reality-check-moyes-is-the-best-they-can-get[/URL]
    [/QUOTE]
    It’s not even about the ambition. It’s about having self respect. I respect Everton too much to have that knobhead back after stringing us along in his last year and his subsequent conduct at United. I would take pretty much anyone over that dour bellend. Obviously you don’t respect Everton or its fans at all.

  134. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7486030, member: 47334″]
    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.espn.com/soccer/everton/story/4011408/everton-need-a-reality-check-moyes-is-the-best-they-can-get[/URL]
    [/QUOTE]

    Why, because the press want to keep us in our place ???

    This exactly why we don’t need the likes of Moyes, as it just reaffirms us a small club, with a small time mentality.

  135. [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.espn.com/soccer/everton/story/4011408/everton-need-a-reality-check-moyes-is-the-best-they-can-get[/URL]

  136. [QUOTE=”StreetEndBlue, post: 7485978, member: 44832″]
    He was in the running for the vacant Stoke job about a month ago and even they said thanks but no thanks. Doesn’t that tell you everything?

    People who want him back think we’d be getting the Moyes of 2002 which was a young, hungry fired-up manager. He’s a shell of that thesedays. His experience at Man Utd has simply destroyed him yet you get false bravado like saying he saw himself as a ‘Champions League level manager’ the day he was unveiled as Sunderland boss.

    Moyes is absolutely finished as a top level manager. Over 18 months on the dole tell you that. He’ll be lucky to get a gig anywhere thesedays, let alone in the Premier League.
    [/QUOTE]
    Erm, no. Moyes has knocked back Stoke three or four times now!

  137. [QUOTE=”Bluetintedspecs, post: 7485975, member: 4288″]
    Seven seasons ago we finished above an RS team that finished 7th. So what? No, we wouldn’t have reached the top four if he’d stayed. We peaked in 2007/08 and 2008/09 with our highest points under Moyes, but we stagnated and started to decline a bit in the seasons after that. I think we, and he, had grown a bit stale and both needed a fresh start. His record since he left us has been dire, however you care to dress it up.

    Also, you should never go back. Howard Kendall Mark 2 and 3 illustrates that. I can’t think of any manager, apart from Mourinho, who had a successful return to a club as manager. If there were any, they were few and far between.
    [/QUOTE]
    Jupp Heynkes, Walter Smith, Fabio Capello, Nigel Pearson, Billy McNeill, Graeme Taylor…

  138. I’d roll with Big Dunc as long as he keeps our head above water. However if we have consecutive uninspiring performances, not losses but Norwich/Sheffield/Villa type performances, I’d turn to Moyes and give it to him for the rest of the year. So keep Moyes waiting in the wings, but don’t hand it to him unless it goes off the rails.

    Then at the end of the year look for a proven and experienced long-term guy who plays counter attacking football.

  139. He was in the running for the vacant Stoke job about a month ago and even they said thanks but no thanks. Doesn’t that tell you everything?

    People who want him back think we’d be getting the Moyes of 2002 which was a young, hungry fired-up manager. He’s a shell of that thesedays. His experience at Man Utd has simply destroyed him yet you get false bravado like saying he saw himself as a ‘Champions League level manager’ the day he was unveiled as Sunderland boss.

    Moyes is absolutely finished as a top level manager. Over 18 months on the dole tell you that. He’ll be lucky to get a gig anywhere thesedays, let alone in the Premier League.

  140. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7485901, member: 47334″]
    When he left in 2013 we finished above them in the league. We were actually in a position of strength after years of building, and a few additions would have seen us top four.

    Sadly Martinez squandered this legacy and then Moshiri came and and managed to make the team worse despite spending hundreds of millions in transfer fees.
    [/QUOTE]

    Actually we should have qualified for the CL that season.

    We were in the top four in January when he started playing silly buggers over his contract.

    We subsequently discovered the reason he was doing this was because he was negotiating with United.

    He lost focus and our form suffered.

    No way back for Moyes at this club.

  141. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7485901, member: 47334″]
    When he left in 2013 we finished above them in the league. We were actually in a position of strength after years of building, and a few additions would have seen us top four.

    Sadly Martinez squandered this legacy and then Moshiri came and and managed to make the team worse despite spending hundreds of millions in transfer fees.
    [/QUOTE]

    Seven seasons ago we finished above an RS team that finished 7th. So what? No, we wouldn’t have reached the top four if he’d stayed. We peaked in 2007/08 and 2008/09 with our highest points under Moyes, but we stagnated and started to decline a bit in the seasons after that. I think we, and he, had grown a bit stale and both needed a fresh start. His record since he left us has been dire, however you care to dress it up.

    Also, you should never go back. Howard Kendall Mark 2 and 3 illustrates that. I can’t think of any manager, apart from Mourinho, who had a successful return to a club as manager. If there were any, they were few and far between.

  142. [QUOTE=”COYBL25, post: 7485956, member: 8087″]
    Changes nothing.

    He needs to swallow his pride and drop down a division and rebuild his cred

    The Premier League isn’t for him anymore.
    [/QUOTE]
    Way it looks he will end up here or West Ham. I just think he is a good bet to lay some foundations and build a team. The big question would be would he work with Brands at the helm?

  143. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7485763, member: 1″]
    It’s our obligation to inform you that we ran background checks on your account.

    We had genuine reason to suspect you was David Moyes’ agent which would call into question the integrity of your posts.

    It appears we were not correct, please accept our apology for the intrusion.
    [/QUOTE]
    Hahaha!

    Hang on, this is a joke?!

  144. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7485953, member: 47334″]
    Keeping Sociedad up was also a success, though he failed to kick on in season 2. And at Man Utd he actually has a better win ratio than the great Louis Van Gaal and the not-so great Ole Gunnar Solskjær.
    [/QUOTE]

    Changes nothing.

    He needs to swallow his pride and drop down a division and rebuild his cred

    The Premier League isn’t for him anymore.

  145. [QUOTE=”COYBL25, post: 7485935, member: 8087″]
    Yet he’s been a complete failure at everywhere else he‘s been.

    Unless you count keeping West Ham up as success.

    He’s yesterday’s man, same as Pardew, same as Allardyce, same as Pulis.

    There’s a good reason that they haven’t got clubs. Footy has moved on and past them by.
    [/QUOTE]
    Keeping Sociedad up was also a success, though he failed to kick on in season 2. And at Man Utd he actually has a better win ratio than the great Louis Van Gaal and the not-so great Ole Gunnar Solskjær.

  146. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7485916, member: 47334″]
    People dismissing Moyes out of hand could do with a recap of his time here, as time tends to cloud things.

    This is a good video where you actually get to see how he thought about things tactically, and how he evolved the squad over time.

    [MEDIA=youtube]PdLKZ408Sls[/MEDIA]
    [/QUOTE]

    Yet he’s been a complete failure at everywhere else he‘s been.

    Unless you count keeping West Ham up as success.

    He’s yesterday’s man, same as Pardew, same as Allardyce, same as Pulis.

    There’s a good reason that they haven’t got clubs. Footy has moved on and past them by.

  147. People dismissing Moyes out of hand could do with a recap of his time here, as time tends to cloud things.

    This is a good video where you actually get to see how he thought about things tactically, and how he evolved the squad over time.

    [MEDIA=youtube]PdLKZ408Sls[/MEDIA]

  148. [QUOTE=”Bluetintedspecs, post: 7485871, member: 4288″]
    So because Moyes was manager when we last beat the RS 9 years ago and finished above them 15 years ago, that makes him the ideal man for the job now? Times have changed, and Moyes, like a lot of his dinosaur contemporaries (Allardyce, Hughes, Pardew, etc.) has failed to adapt. On top of that, off the top of my head, here’s a list of why I think he shouldn’t get the job:

    1) Lost count of the number of times under Moyes when we drew at home to inferior teams because he always set us up not to lose, instead of going all out for the win. So frustrating.

    2) That same fear of losing made him reactive, rather than proactive, when it came to making substitutions to change the course of a game. For example, the 2012 FA Cup semi against the RS. When we were 1-0 up, it was clear that the balance of the game was changing and he needed to make a change, but he waited. They equalised, but because we weren’t losing, he still waited. They score again in the last few minutes and then he makes the change. Too late!

    3) The “Let’s get to 40 points first” mantra that he trotted out every season. He gave people the impression that plucky little Everton were punching above our weight. We’re not Norwich FFS.

    4) The disrespectful comments he came out with when he was rebuffed in his efforts to sign Fellaini and Baines from us on the cheap. He said he knew better than Martinez how it works at Everton and we were holding back their careers. He didn’t have to say anything. The fact he did, and that he was oblivious to how the fans of the club he managed for 11 years would react to that, shows the arrogance of the man.

    5) He’s failed at every club he’s managed since he left us, apart from West Ham, but I’d argue that any half decent manager could have got that West Ham team to safety.

    6) As Sunderland manager, before the start of the season when they got relegated, he said in an interview that his team would be fighting relegation. This was before a ball had been kicked. I remember thinking at the time, that’s really going to instill confidence in his players and will be the kiss of death to their chances of staying up. They would probably have got relegated regardless, but why say it? I’ll tell you why. He wanted to get his excuses in early and give the impression that even a manager of his abilities would struggle with the squad of players he had.

    I could go on….

    Also, not really a reason, but I always found that People’s Club saying very cringey. It’s the sort of thing kopites would come out with.
    [/QUOTE]
    When he left in 2013 we finished above them in the league. We were actually in a position of strength after years of building, and a few additions would have seen us top four.

    Sadly Martinez squandered this legacy and then Moshiri came and and managed to make the team worse despite spending hundreds of millions in transfer fees.

  149. [QUOTE=”peteblue, post: 7485761, member: 8392″]
    David Moyes deserves nothing. He was plucked from a lower division, paid handsomely, never given a hard time by the Chairman and could probably have stayed as long as he wanted. Instead he ran down his contract, buggered off to Utd and tried to stiff us on the purchase of our two best players. Instead of complaining that he was dressed in Utd garb, I’d have had him dressed as Judas Iscariot…..
    [/QUOTE]

    Bravo. Peter.

  150. [QUOTE=”Billysgingham., post: 7485865, member: 50853″]
    I can’t remember the lads name who went on talksport yesterday and put them straight about moyes and him coming back to Everton.He was something to do with G OT because him told them about the poll that’s running othats , and they seemed shocked.
    [/QUOTE]
    Adam Partington it was who does GOT tv, was a great listen

  151. [QUOTE=”Billysgingham., post: 7485865, member: 50853″]
    I can’t remember the lads name who went on talksport yesterday and put them straight about moyes and him coming back to Everton.He was something to do with G OT because him told them about the poll that’s running othats , and they seemed shocked.
    [/QUOTE]

    Adam that mate [USER=24960]@Adam-GOTTV[/USER] – the audio is here;

    [MEDIA=youtube]6QZYK3zMHo0[/MEDIA]

  152. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7485749, member: 47334″]
    Can anyone tell me who the last manager to beat Liverpool is? Also, who is the last manager to finish a season above Liverpool in the league?

    Given their greater resources, I feel this a good yardstick to measure a manager’s performance.

    If we have the opportunity to secure such a manager it would certainly be a positive step from the club after many years of regression.
    [/QUOTE]

    So because Moyes was manager when we last beat the RS 9 years ago and finished above them 15 years ago, that makes him the ideal man for the job now? Times have changed, and Moyes, like a lot of his dinosaur contemporaries (Allardyce, Hughes, Pardew, etc.) has failed to adapt. On top of that, off the top of my head, here’s a list of why I think he shouldn’t get the job:

    1) Lost count of the number of times under Moyes when we drew at home to inferior teams because he always set us up not to lose, instead of going all out for the win. So frustrating.

    2) That same fear of losing made him reactive, rather than proactive, when it came to making substitutions to change the course of a game. For example, the 2012 FA Cup semi against the RS. When we were 1-0 up, it was clear that the balance of the game was changing and he needed to make a change, but he waited. They equalised, but because we weren’t losing, he still waited. They score again in the last few minutes and then he makes the change. Too late!

    3) The “Let’s get to 40 points first” mantra that he trotted out every season. He gave people the impression that plucky little Everton were punching above our weight. We’re not Norwich FFS.

    4) The disrespectful comments he came out with when he was rebuffed in his efforts to sign Fellaini and Baines from us on the cheap. He said he knew better than Martinez how it works at Everton and we were holding back their careers. He didn’t have to say anything. The fact he did, and that he was oblivious to how the fans of the club he managed for 11 years would react to that, shows the arrogance of the man.

    5) He’s failed at every club he’s managed since he left us, apart from West Ham, but I’d argue that any half decent manager could have got that West Ham team to safety.

    6) As Sunderland manager, before the start of the season when they got relegated, he said in an interview that his team would be fighting relegation. This was before a ball had been kicked. I remember thinking at the time, that’s really going to instill confidence in his players and will be the kiss of death to their chances of staying up. They would probably have got relegated regardless, but why say it? I’ll tell you why. He wanted to get his excuses in early and give the impression that even a manager of his abilities would struggle with the squad of players he had.

    I could go on….

    Also, not really a reason, but I always found that People’s Club saying very cringey. It’s the sort of thing kopites would come out with.

  153. I can’t remember the lads name who went on talksport yesterday and put them straight about moyes and him coming back to Everton.He was something to do with G OT because he told them about the poll that’s running and they seemed shocked.

  154. [QUOTE=”DaviesIsTheFuture, post: 7483410, member: 47338″]
    What are the odds for the new manager today?

    Who are the top 2-3 mentioned?

    I think way too many on here are overreacting with Moyes. He is not my first choice, but I wouldn’t hate it if he’s brought back.
    [/QUOTE]

    I think the views on the forum aren’t always reflective of the whole fan base.

    [QUOTE]My concerns before yesterday’s game were that, if the team put in another Blackburn-esque performance, Mr Kenwright was in danger of being publicly lynched!! I couldn’t have been wider of the mark. When the image of Mr Kenwright appeared on the screen and people began cheering, I’ve got to say I was shocked to the core.[/QUOTE]

    Most people on here hate Kenwright and would tell anyone who’d listen to them that all fans do. There’s more moderate viewed fans than they’d be prepared to admit.

    Just because some people shout louder than others doesn’t mean they speak for everyone.

  155. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7485841, member: 1″]
    You photoshopped that.
    [/QUOTE]
    I’ll admit to it if you unban [USER=6137]@ijjysmith[/USER]

  156. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7485763, member: 1″]
    It’s our obligation to inform you that we ran background checks on your account.

    We had genuine reason to suspect you was David Moyes’ agent which would call into question the integrity of your posts.

    It appears we were not correct, please except our apology for the intrusion.
    [/QUOTE]
    Accept* FFS.

  157. [QUOTE=”JobForTheMoyes, post: 7485749, member: 47334″]
    Can anyone tell me who the last manager to beat Liverpool is? Also, who is the last manager to finish a season above Liverpool in the league?

    Given their greater resources, I feel this a good yardstick to measure a manager’s performance.

    If we have the opportunity to secure such a manager it would certainly be a positive step from the club after many years of regression.
    [/QUOTE]

    It’s our obligation to inform you that we ran background checks on your account.

    We had genuine reason to suspect you was David Moyes’ agent which would call into question the integrity of your posts.

    It appears we were not correct, please accept our apology for the intrusion.

  158. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7485369, member: 8080″]
    The poll has a bias slant as picture displayed at start of the poll has David Moyes in a Man utd tracksuit surrounded by Man utd players…

    If we do polls in the future they must be non bias with no picture slant that would lead voters to be swayed on one particular side…

    David Moyes deserves the respect surely after being our manager for 11 years…

    He could still become our manager for a second time & it’s biased polls like these which is not helping the team or the club at this present time.
    [/QUOTE]

    David Moyes deserves nothing. He was plucked from a lower division, paid handsomely, never given a hard time by the Chairman and could probably have stayed as long as he wanted. Instead he ran down his contract, buggered off to Utd and tried to stiff us on the purchase of our two best players. Instead of complaining that he was dressed in Utd garb, I’d have had him dressed as Judas Iscariot…..

  159. [QUOTE=”Gwladysstreetlad, post: 7484756, member: 30862″]
    Martin O’Neil would be a way better option over David Moyes! Hell I’d sooner see BFS back running Everton Football Club for the foreseeable future over Moyes at this point. 🙁
    [/QUOTE]
    Based on what exactly? Certainly not on football performance.

  160. Can anyone tell me who the last manager to beat Liverpool is? Also, who is the last manager to finish a season above Liverpool in the league?

    Given their greater resources, I feel this a good yardstick to measure a manager’s performance.

    If we have the opportunity to secure such a manager it would certainly be a positive step from the club after many years of regression.

  161. [QUOTE=”4737carlin, post: 7484634, member: 17264″]
    He might talk some nonsense about football but i cant think of anyone apart from Tories not liking him, even all my red mates like him
    [/QUOTE]
    Me I don’t… my grandad met him and asked him for an autograph for me. My grandad followed Everton everywhere and Nev told him to something off

  162. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7485369, member: 8080″]
    The poll has a bias slant as picture displayed at start of the poll has David Moyes in a Man utd tracksuit surrounded by Man utd players…

    If we do polls in the future they must be non bias with no picture slant that would lead voters to be swayed on one particular side…

    David Moyes deserves the respect surely after being our manager for 11 years…

    He could still become our manager for a second time & it’s biased polls like these which is not helping the team or the club at this present time.
    [/QUOTE]

    Appreciate the feedback but have to admit to it raising a wry smile.

    We could have used one in a Real Soci, or West Ha…. or Sunderland? Like we did for our social media posts on the subject but nah, we used one of him while manager at one of, if not the worlds biggest clubs – the biggest job he’ll ever have.

    Your own connotation with that picture are exactly that, your own.

    There’s no “if” as to whether we’ll continue to ‘do’ polls, we’ll always quantify sentiment. Whether that’s a poll asking whether a new transfer is a good one – like with [URL=’https://www.grandoldteam.com/2019/08/08/everton-sign-alex-iwobi/’]Iwobi here[/URL], or thoughts on prospective managers – we asked the same question regarding Moyes in 2016, you’ll be glad to know we used a picture of him from his Everton days in that poll – the margin against him was 92% against;

    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.grandoldteam.com/2016/05/26/poll-want-moyes-back/[/URL]

  163. Going down the line it is like playing Monopoly, all the good propertied have gone and you are left with Whitechapel Road (aka Moyes)

  164. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7459804, member: 1″]
    [URL=’https://www.grandoldteam.com/2019/12/05/poll-do-you-want-moyes-back/’]Continue reading…[/URL]
    [/QUOTE]

    The poll has a bias slant as picture displayed at start of the poll has David Moyes in a Man utd tracksuit surrounded by Man utd players…

    If we do polls in the future they must be non bias with no picture slant that would lead voters to be swayed on one particular side…

    David Moyes deserves the respect surely after being our manager for 11 years…

    He could still become our manager for a second time & it’s biased polls like these which is not helping the team or the club at this present time.

  165. Ahem…

    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.theguardian.com/football/2005/sep/02/sport.blueprintforabetterfootball[/URL]

  166. [QUOTE=”polish, post: 7484627, member: 14634″]
    It would be like Leicester appointing Martin O’Neil when they got rid of Puel.
    [/QUOTE]
    Martin O’Neil would be a way better option over David Moyes! Hell I’d sooner see BFS back running Everton Football Club for the foreseeable future over Moyes at this point. 🙁

  167. [QUOTE=”MrGrumpy, post: 7483620, member: 29172″]
    Sorry but Nev is an idiot always has been, spouts utter crap and isnt a very nice fella
    [/QUOTE]
    He might talk some nonsense about football but i cant think of anyone apart from Tories not liking him, even all my red mates like him

  168. If we take Moyes back it basically confirms that Kenwright is still running the club, It also confirms that Moshiri is completely clueless and a fraud..

  169. [QUOTE=”MrGrumpy, post: 7483696, member: 29172″]
    It’s defo not Moyes if Fergy taking Sunday
    [/QUOTE]
    Maybe they want to protect him from the crowd? Given it’s man utd we’re playing he’ll be getting boos from all 4 corners! And rightly so

  170. [QUOTE=”MrGrumpy, post: 7483620, member: 29172″]
    Sorry but Nev is an idiot always has been, spouts utter crap and isnt a very nice fella
    [/QUOTE]

    lol

  171. Say no to sentimentality. Moyes doesn’t deserve the handout. Bill would gladly have him, but I have no doubts that Moshiri wouldn’t sanction it and neither would Brands.

  172. [QUOTE=”Khalekan, post: 7483554, member: 7226″]
    I think if Moyes was coming he would have been in for the Chelsea game.

    Or, if we had lost that, he might have held the club to ransom for an extended contract, just like Sam did after the defeat to Saints,

    That Chelsea victory, the manner in which it was achieved and the feel good factor around the ground before, during, afterwards and in the days following the game has taken so much pressure off.

    Three massive games in a row coming up and I am happy enough right now to see what Dunc can do in them.

    As ever…..Big Nev puts is best.

    [MEDIA=twitter]1204468790672678912[/MEDIA]
    [/QUOTE]
    Sorry but Nev is an idiot always has been, spouts utter crap and isnt a very nice fella

  173. I think if Moyes was coming he would have been in for the Chelsea game.

    Or, if we had lost that, he might have held the club to ransom for an extended contract, just like Sam did after the defeat to Saints,

    That Chelsea victory, the manner in which it was achieved and the feel good factor around the ground before, during, afterwards and in the days following the game has taken so much pressure off.

    Three massive games in a row coming up and I am happy enough right now to see what Dunc can do in them.

    As ever…..Big Nev puts is best.

    [MEDIA=twitter]1204468790672678912[/MEDIA]

  174. Moshiri and Kenwright need to think very carefully about bringing Moyes back and if it’s really worth it. I’ve put up with a lot of crap from this club over the years but bringing Moyes back is one insult to many. I just need one really good excuse stop going the match and I swear, I’ll do it and never look back.

    Every year like clockwork around Christmas I always have to start justifying my season ticket for the following year to both the myself and the missus and every year I get past It and renew (more out of habit then anything else at this point!) but if they push me on this, I’m done.

    I can stand us being crap but I refuse part with a penny more if the club is going to disrespect me like that. Its not about Moyes himself, its what he symbolizes, its the clubs way of saying “yeah we know he’s crap and we’re crap but there’s nothing to be done about it and you’re just gonna have to deal with. And you will, because you and and all the other mugs are just going to keep renewing no matter what, aren’t you soft lad?! Sorry about that! Lol!”

  175. What are the odds for the new manager today?

    Who are the top 2-3 mentioned?

    I think way too many on here are overreacting with Moyes. He is not my first choice, but I wouldn’t hate it if he’s brought back.

  176. [QUOTE=”Gaffa, post: 7483332, member: 33636″]
    Literally the only people I want less than Moyes is Hughes and Pardew
    [/QUOTE]

    Big Neil Warnock fan then.

  177. [QUOTE=”royalblue66, post: 7482986, member: 15740″]
    A mate of mine(friend of a director at Arsenal FC) has just text me to say that Arsenal are about to appoint David Moyes as manager, I kid you not.
    [/QUOTE]
    [USER=16002]@orly[/USER] INDEX ARSE

  178. [QUOTE=”royalblue66, post: 7482986, member: 15740″]
    A mate of mine(friend of a director at Arsenal FC) has just text me to say that Arsenal are about to appoint David Moyes as manager, I kid you not.
    [/QUOTE]
    Have a bet on that then, you shouldn’t get less than 33/1 for that.

  179. [QUOTE=”Groucho, post: 7483116, member: 11868″]
    If you don’t want Moyes back can I suggest stopping phoning talk sport about him?

    That’s all that’s keeping him in the news.
    [/QUOTE]
    Fair enough Groucho, but it is also letting people know how much Everton fans are against him coming back.

  180. Just seen the bbc sport lead page……..”Everton: David Moyes still under consideration” 😡

    The problem with this is if we lose the next two, the shouts about needing a firefighter to save us will resurface.

  181. It ultimately comes down to what better managers can we get on a temporary basis. If none then it’s probably Moysie for us; unless you back Big Dunc.

    I would personally hope that Moyes wouldn’t force us to compensate him if we told him to get lost at the end of the season, given the history.

    But there is the inherent danger of him succeeding too much.

  182. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7483093, member: 37364″]
    How long is it before the season ticket holders and the match paying supporters go, enough is enough? It doesn’t matter if there is a promise of a brand new stadium on the horizon.

    When you have to justify to your wife and kids, exactly why are you paying all this money to make you miserable every weekend? Coming out of your wages.

    We can talk about our history or say it’s just around the corner. Eventually it just becomes empty rhetoric. Especially when the neighbors go from strength to strength. That’s the tipping point. When the supporters will no longer accept incompetence.

    It’s coming. Sure as hell. We’re a proud city. Don’t ask for whom the bell tolls. The board should keep that in mind.
    [/QUOTE]
    If you have to justify your spending to the kids then the balance of power in the house is a little out

  183. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482992, member: 1″]
    Not sure if you agree?

    It’s clear to me that I completely disagree with you.

    Everton won’t get relegated – the thought of such shouldn’t play any role in appointing the next manager of the club. Let’s not repeat Allardyce.

    As I said in another thread before;
    [/QUOTE]

    Yep id completely disagree, there is a real risk there in my opinion, we are approaching half way now and dont have half the points to 40, poor form over five games and a wrong appointment away from that not improving.

    I wish i had your confidence though.

  184. I don’t particularly want him back, but there’s a lot of “if we appoint him I’m not going the match again, I’m finished with them”.

    Firstly, yes you will.

    And secondly, get over yourself.

  185. No although I suspect the likes of Phil Kirkbride and Dave Prentice will have their first drafts written by now to hold back the flames.

  186. I definitely don’t want Moyes back but i do almost feel a bit sorry for him as to how against having him back Evertonians are given he did a better job here than every manager since. I know he’s been turbo gash ever since but still…

  187. Most Everton of Everton if we reappoint.
    The high of beating Chelsea to an all time this.
    Big Sam was testing the waters.
    Moyes would be concrete boots.

  188. If you don’t want Moyes back can I suggest stopping phoning talk sport about him?

    That’s all that’s keeping him in the news.

  189. [QUOTE=”radiostar, post: 7483099, member: 12065″]
    Very worrying trend going on today in the press and media.

    Moyes is being hailed left right and centre, the club are deffo putting out feelers and trying to soften the blow when he’s announced.

    This is while Carlo Ancelotti is available, be criminal if we didn’t attempt to get him.
    [/QUOTE]

    Do you not agree [USER=40160]@Seathestars[/USER] ?

  190. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7483093, member: 37364″]
    How long is it before the season ticket holders and the match paying supporters go, enough is enough? It doesn’t matter if there is a promise of a brand new stadium on the horizon.

    When you have to justify to your wife and kids, exactly why are you paying all this money to make you miserable every weekend? Coming out of your wages.

    We can talk about our history or say it’s just around the corner. Eventually it just becomes empty rhetoric. Especially when the neighbors go from strength to strength. That’s the tipping point. When the supporters will no longer accept incompetence.

    It’s coming. Sure as hell. We’re a proud city. Don’t ask for whom the bell tolls. The board should keep that in mind.
    [/QUOTE]

    I will not be renewing my ST if Moyes comes in. I already stopped going under his first reign.

  191. Very worrying trend going on today in the press and media.

    Moyes is being hailed left right and centre, the club are deffo putting out feelers and trying to soften the blow when he’s announced.

    This is while Carlo Ancelotti is available, be criminal if we didn’t attempt to get him.

  192. How long is it before the season ticket holders and the match paying supporters go, enough is enough? It doesn’t matter if there is a promise of a brand new stadium on the horizon.

    When you have to justify to your wife and kids, exactly why are you paying all this money to make you miserable every weekend? Coming out of your wages.

    We can talk about our history or say it’s just around the corner. Eventually it just becomes empty rhetoric. Especially when the neighbors go from strength to strength. That’s the tipping point. When the supporters will no longer accept incompetence.

    It’s coming. Sure as hell. We’re a proud city. Don’t ask for whom the bell tolls. The board should keep that in mind.

  193. [QUOTE=”TheBigIguana, post: 7483006, member: 23570″]
    The second paragraph is easier said than done. Those types of managers don’t exactly grow on trees so attracting one isn’t straightforward at all. Plus Pochettino wouldn’t qualify by that standard but someone like Emery would and no one would want him.
    [/QUOTE]

    I hear you on that. But it comes down to money. We’re told that ya man who nobody wanted is staying in China for a $30 mil wedge, is that true? I don’t know. What I will say is this, offer people a decent amount to work on oil rigs or feckin Alaska, you’ll get someone.

    Would I work in China, no. Not a chance, if you offer me an absurd amount of money. I’d consider it. That’s the kicker. Man City were a joke. If you’re playing silly buggers and you really want to compete. You have to spend the money.

    Would we get the best, probably not, however you’re on the ladder. We’re not even close though. The club is playing at being a player. That’s what the muppets in the media are fed. Moshiri wanted a “Hollywood name”. We ended up getting the Southampton manager, Alladyce and the Hull manager. That’s a piss take.

  194. He was interviewed before Koeman was appointed, he wasn’t deemed appropriate then, nothing he has done since makes him appropriate now.

    Kenwright driving this bus. The damage that man has done to his boyhood club is going to take decades to undo.

  195. [QUOTE=”royalblue66, post: 7482986, member: 15740″]
    A mate of mine(friend of a director at Arsenal FC) has just text me to say that Arsenal are about to appoint David Moyes as manager, I kid you not.
    [/QUOTE]

    [IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gbgPNOWtSGYkkQU/giphy.gif[/IMG]

  196. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7483028, member: 1″]
    The poll was before Chelsea, and when he was the favourite according to BBC.

    If we ran it now, I think the vote would be higher than 80% against tbh.
    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah good point that.

    My curiosity makes me game for a new vote to see where we are at. lol

  197. [QUOTE=”Lob, post: 7483019, member: 17797″]
    Even though the poll is showing that the vast majority of people dont want Moyes back, i find it very alarming that out of the 8225 people who voted, 1586 people actually do want him back. It is absolutely mind boggling tbh.
    [/QUOTE]

    The poll was before Chelsea, and when he was the favourite according to BBC.

    If we ran it now, I think the vote would be higher than 80% against tbh.

  198. [QUOTE=”Papa Shango, post: 7483000, member: 9453″]
    I would rather you take a poop in my hands and clap than take Moyes back…
    [/QUOTE]
    DM me we can arrange this

  199. [QUOTE=”royalblue66, post: 7482986, member: 15740″]
    A mate of mine(friend of a director at Arsenal FC) has just text me to say that Arsenal are about to appoint David Moyes as manager, I kid you not.
    [/QUOTE]

    BS

  200. Even though the poll is showing that the vast majority of people dont want Moyes back, i find it very alarming that out of the 8225 people who voted, 1586 people actually do want him back. It is absolutely mind boggling tbh.

  201. [QUOTE=”royalblue66, post: 7482986, member: 15740″]
    A mate of mine(friend of a director at Arsenal FC) has just text me to say that Arsenal are about to appoint David Moyes as manager, I kid you not.
    [/QUOTE]
    Oh you’ve got one of THOSE friends too? There’s always one isn’t there?

  202. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7482982, member: 37364″]
    Moshiri really needs to put his cards on the table. Literally it’s time to stop talking and walk the walk. A Moyes appointment would be pathetic. To invest nearly half a billion and your return is where we started? That’s worse than a bad coke habit.

    If you are serious about reinvigorating the club, appoint a manager who has a track record of winning something. Not in some two horse race league. A proven winner. Show intent that you mean business. That’s how successful business operate.

    Unless of course your sole reason to be here, is to sell on real estate from the dock.
    [/QUOTE]
    The second paragraph is easier said than done. Those types of managers don’t exactly grow on trees so attracting one isn’t straightforward at all. Plus Pochettino wouldn’t qualify by that standard but someone like Emery would and no one would want him.

  203. [QUOTE=”Yorkie89, post: 7482981, member: 39375″]
    I would rather take a poop in my hands and clap then take Moyes back but there is a real possibility this happens which is terrifying. Let’s hope the Ancelotti talks are real
    [/QUOTE]

    I would rather you take a poop in my hands and clap than take Moyes back…

  204. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482874, member: 1″]
    I very much doubt Moshiri/Brands know what Grand Old Team is mate lol
    [/QUOTE]
    Ha ha as I said Employees of the club will peruse forums Of course brands and Moshiri won’t have a clue about any forum but I think the forum result with over 8000 voting will have somehow been noticed by someone in a senior position at the club

  205. [QUOTE=”royalblue66, post: 7482986, member: 15740″]
    A mate of mine(friend of a director at Arsenal FC) has just text me to say that Arsenal are about to appoint David Moyes as manager, I kid you not.
    [/QUOTE]

    Hahahaha oh I would love that to be true!!!

    Maybe it’s Arsenal Ladies? He could give them a slap.

  206. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7482977, member: 32″]
    Not sure, i agree with you there, i think there is a real risk we could get relegated both with the competency on and off the field. If i was that confident we wouldn’t id just give it to Duncan until the need of the year. But i think we are long way off of definitely not getting relegated or at least the risk is real.
    [/QUOTE]

    Not sure if you agree?

    It’s clear to me that I completely disagree with you.

    Everton won’t get relegated – the thought of such shouldn’t play any role in appointing the next manager of the club. Let’s not repeat Allardyce.

    As I said in another thread before;

    [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482887, member: 1″]
    No matter who we bring in…

    At best 8th
    At worst 12th.

    In reality, the margins between the two will be very small between at best and at worst.

    That’s why the last three seasons we’ve finished 7th, 8th, 8th

    It is what it is. Only a top, top manager supported by a top DOF (Is that Brands? We’ll see…) will progress Everton.

    Until then, we’re pissing in the wind.
    [/QUOTE]

  207. A mate of mine(friend of a director at Arsenal FC) has just text me to say that Arsenal are about to appoint David Moyes as manager, I kid you not.

  208. Moshiri really needs to put his cards on the table. Literally it’s time to stop talking and walk the walk. A Moyes appointment would be pathetic. To invest nearly half a billion and your return is where we started? That’s worse than a bad coke habit.

    If you are serious about reinvigorating the club, appoint a manager who has a track record of winning something. Not in some two horse race league. A proven winner. Show intent that you mean business. That’s how successful business operate.

    Unless of course your sole reason to be here, is to sell on real estate from the dock.

  209. I would rather take a poop in my hands and clap then take Moyes back but there is a real possibility this happens which is terrifying. Let’s hope the Ancelotti talks are real

  210. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482872, member: 1″]
    My point is, as it was prior Allardyce – we won’t be relegated to why knee-jerk?

    Moyes also wouldn’t be interim, any view of “it’s only for 6 months” is wrong. Even if it was correct, the damage it would do to the relationship between clubs boardroom and fans wouldn’t be worth it.
    [/QUOTE]

    Not sure, i agree with you there, i think there is a real risk we could get relegated both with the competency on and off the field. If i was that confident we wouldn’t id just give it to Duncan until the need of the year. But i think we are long way off of definitely not getting relegated or at least the risk is real.

  211. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482876, member: 1745″]
    Hiring Moyes will end Moshiri’s goodwill…already depleted. The fanbase will break around it like this:

    70% appalled
    20% seeing it as the final straw
    10% resignation

    He needs to bring in a decent manager or face those figures.
    [/QUOTE]

    Agreed. It’s make or break time for him.

  212. There’s some great posters on here and we all know who they are. We’re all fed up and pissed, even the win at the weekend is soured by the rumours, that we all check everyday. It’s time for fortitude however.

    This forum amongst others is a powerful mouthpiece and they are not ignored. Sure we may not get our man but don’t underestimate the influence. None of us know for sure who is the best man for the job. The important thing to remember here is, we are not the ones doing the hiring.

    That burden lies on the board and whoever makes that final decision better get it right. Increasingly the spotlight is falling on them.

    We are an institution in this city. A bedrock. If there is profit to be made no-one would begrudge that. Nevertheless our proud history demands respect. And there will be a tipping point.

    We’ve fought off shysters before and we will do again.

  213. [QUOTE=”AussieToffee11, post: 7482894, member: 16329″]
    I’d like to play devil’s advocate just for one moment. For the record, I don’t want Moyes.

    But…

    Isn’t what we loved about Dunc’s return at the weekend was the passion and “dogs of war” style of play? The crowd reacting, the players sticking it in, and the tenacity brilliant.

    Isn’t that exactly what Moyes would bring? It’s what we had when he was here. Consider our best defence of the last decade – Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Coleman. All Moyes men, all hard as, and played the football that we want.

    I hear people say we need a manager that understands what the club wants and is. This guy brings it instantly. Throw in Dunc as his assistant.

    I want Ancelotti badly as it puts us on the map in a big way, makes it easier to bring in better players etc… but Moyes isn’t the disaster that it’s being made out to be.

    (Runs and hides in a corner)
    [/QUOTE]

    What’s the difference between Moyes and Ferguson?

    Ferguson worked for the club for free for two years to set himself on his way as a coach. Worked his way up to a first team coach and picked up the mantle when asked. Made it clear it was about the club, not him, and that’s why he wasn’t applying for the role permanently

    Moyes went behind the clubs back and lied to all and sundry about it so he could move to United, then treated us like something beneath him afterwards. He’s been crap everywhere he went since.

    If we want what we loved about Dunc’s return then what do we need Moyes for?

  214. I’d like to play devil’s advocate just for one moment. For the record, I don’t want Moyes.

    But…

    Isn’t what we loved about Dunc’s return at the weekend was the passion and “dogs of war” style of play? The crowd reacting, the players sticking it in, and the tenacity brilliant.

    Isn’t that exactly what Moyes would bring? It’s what we had when he was here. Consider our best defence of the last decade – Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Coleman. All Moyes men, all hard as, and played the football that we want.

    I hear people say we need a manager that understands what the club wants and is. This guy brings it instantly. Throw in Dunc as his assistant.

    I want Ancelotti badly as it puts us on the map in a big way, makes it easier to bring in better players etc… but Moyes isn’t the disaster that it’s being made out to be.

    (Runs and hides in a corner)

  215. [QUOTE=”bullybeef, post: 7482877, member: 4287″]
    Would rather have big dunc
    [/QUOTE]

    Now if they dressed it up as Dunc with Moyes helping him, until a permanent manager is found, it might be slightly more tolerable.

    this again just goes to highlight the rank amateur approach again from within the football club.

  216. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482878, member: 1″]
    + Brands’, IMO.
    [/QUOTE]
    I see people now having sympathy for Brands: they’ll see him as being a bewildered figure on the end of instructions from a bizarre Jesus Gil type of chairman.

    For me, if Brands wasn’t clever enough to do his own due diligence on a backseat driver like Moshiri he isn’t up to snuff for his job anyway. Must have been desperate for the cash.

  217. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482876, member: 1745″]
    Hiring Moyes will end Moshiri’s goodwill…already depleted. The fanbase will break around it like this:

    70% appalled
    20% seeing it as the final straw
    10% resignation

    He needs to bring in a decent manager or face those figures.
    [/QUOTE]

    + Brands’, IMO.

  218. [QUOTE=”Sentinel, post: 7482853, member: 37364″]
    Sometimes it’s hard to tell whether the regular posters on here are just taking the piss. We read them everyday and it’s all part of the craic. “Put up and shut up”. If you succumb to that, it’s no longer parody. You’re part of the problem.

    It’s tempting to draw parallels from across the park but there’s no need. There’s isn’t one premier team who pretends to have aspirations to compete that would hire David Moyes. That’s just a fact. If we need a firefighter, what is the difference between Allardyce and Moyes?

    Once we get to the stage when the board repeatably make poor decisions, we’re not talking about the supporters, managers or players. The decision making at the club is flawed and their inability to act in the best interests of Everton Football club. As a consequence they must be removed.
    [/QUOTE]
    Hiring Moyes will end Moshiri’s goodwill…already depleted. The fanbase will break around it like this:

    70% appalled
    20% seeing it as the final straw
    10% resignation

    He needs to bring in a decent manager or face those figures.

  219. [QUOTE=”funkygibson, post: 7482867, member: 14933″]
    80% of a sample size of over 8000 people don’t want Moyes. That says it all. Yougov only use sample sizes of a 1000 don’t they? I’m sure every club has employees who peruse their fans forums, surely they’ll be feeding back that there will be carnage if he’s appointed even in an interim capacity
    [/QUOTE]

    I very much doubt Moshiri/Brands know what Grand Old Team is mate lol

  220. [QUOTE=”The Penalty Box Dancer, post: 7482861, member: 38057″]
    He might get us top 10 but does that dictate a new contract?

    We are four games from winning a trophy which is do-able but do we want Moyes in charge of those games?

    Stability-wise it might work but let’s not let him loose on the transfer window. Have a long term option lined up in the summer.
    [/QUOTE]

    My point is, as it was prior Allardyce – we won’t be relegated to why knee-jerk?

    Moyes also wouldn’t be interim, any view of “it’s only for 6 months” is wrong. Even if it was correct, the damage it would do to the relationship between clubs boardroom and fans wouldn’t be worth it.

  221. 80% of a sample size of over 8000 people don’t want Moyes. That says it all. Yougov only use sample sizes of a 1000 don’t they? I’m sure every club has employees who peruse their fans forums, surely they’ll be feeding back that there will be carnage if he’s appointed even in an interim capacity

  222. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482838, member: 1″]
    Last three seasons;

    7th, 8th, 8th.

    We’ll finish top 12 no matter who we bring in.

    That dictates no more Allardyce style sticking plaster.

    But you know all this, as I said, it’s just boring how every time you take the contrarian view. At least try and mix it up.
    [/QUOTE]

    He might get us top 10 but does that dictate a new contract?

    We are four games from winning a trophy which is do-able but do we want Moyes in charge of those games?

    Stability-wise it might work but let’s not let him loose on the transfer window. Have a long term option lined up in the summer.

  223. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482770, member: 1745″]
    If it is Moyes, we have to be grown up about this. He’s defo not my cup of tea – to say the least. However, the club’s well being for the rest of the season is paramount, so we may have to put up with it. Obviously the criticism over any such appointment will be well justified.
    [/QUOTE]

    Sometimes it’s hard to tell whether the regular posters on here are just taking the piss. We read them everyday and it’s all part of the craic. “Put up and shut up”. If you succumb to that, it’s no longer parody. You’re part of the problem.

    It’s tempting to draw parallels from across the park but there’s no need. There’s isn’t one premier team who pretends to have aspirations to compete that would hire David Moyes. That’s just a fact. If we need a firefighter, what is the difference between Allardyce and Moyes?

    Once we get to the stage when the board repeatably make poor decisions, we’re not talking about the supporters, managers or players. The decision making at the club is flawed and their inability to act in the best interests of Everton Football club. As a consequence they must be removed.

  224. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7482832, member: 32″]
    lol

    It is some manure show to be fair, how we got here and worse by spending 100’s of millions is beyond me and back to where we were in 2013 with Davey.

    You actually couldn’t make up, but you will still get people who say The Mostrix and Brands are the best things ever to happen to Everton. I missed the when and how, when that might have happened.

    Whatever you think of Bill, he never presided over the carnage of whats gone on off the field since the takeover. I see quotes of Moshiri taking over the ” next management appointment personally” and it fills me with dread.
    [/QUOTE]
    It’s a mess mate. I see no clear hierarchy. ‘Backseat driver’ I called him for ages. He is exactly that.

    Moyes is the final insult. But he’s placed us in a position where there’s resignation about it. That’s how insidious Moshiri’s failure has been.

  225. [QUOTE=”billyblue80, post: 7482826, member: 28900″]
    I will begrudgingly accept Moyes interim with Big Dunc as his assistant but we need a long term manager with more ambition. None of the names that have been thrown around are stand out or fit us apart from Ancelotti and Marcelino the rest are risks or not attainable for us. So I understand the anger at reappointing Moyes as it shows the failure at the clubs but I would ask who else can we get in the situation we are in? So get Moyes interim then look again in the summer.
    [/QUOTE]
    Leave Duncan there till the summer over moyes. Moyes will have a big backlash from supporters. Duncan will get the points at home matches to keep us up which would make the whole point of a moyes return pointless. I think people underestimate how much respect moyes has lost and they wouldnt be long turning on him at goodison.

  226. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482833, member: 1745″]
    Yes, I did say all that. And recently. This managerial issue since before the derby has run me ragged. I cant thinlk striaght. When that happens you just accept what given. That’s all it is. Ideally I obviously dont want him and said so. Ancelotti would be great, but it seems clear from reports that with eacj]=h failed approach to class managers we have Moyes there waiting. I dont see any escape from it.
    [/QUOTE]

    Last three seasons;

    7th, 8th, 8th.

    We’ll finish top 12 no matter who we bring in.

    That dictates no more Allardyce style sticking plaster.

    But you know all this, as I said, it’s just boring how every time you take the contrarian view. At least try and mix it up.

  227. Farhad Moshiri is a stooge. Hasn’t got a clue how to run a football club successfully. Can’t get his own appointments spot on so has to resort to the biggest embarrassment in the history of all football club owners, Bill Kenwright for his advice on what to do next.
    What a circus this club has become.

  228. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482827, member: 1″]
    Moyes wouldn’t be an Allardyce. He wouldn’t be the fall guy.

    The only way is up with this Everton team, and that direction gets him the gig.

    From a footballing image perspective – he would also be another big nail in Everton’s coffin.

    Always try and give you the benefit of doubt mate, but it’s becoming increasinly apparent to me that you’re just a WUM who goes against the grain.

    I mean, this was before we beat Chelsea;
    [/QUOTE]

    Yes, I did say all that. And recently. This managerial issue since before the derby has run me ragged. I cant think straight. When that happens you just accept what given. That’s all it is. Ideally I obviously dont want him and said so. Ancelotti would be great, but it seems clear from reports that with each failed approach to class managers we have Moyes there waiting. I dont see any escape from it.

  229. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482823, member: 1745″]
    I’m disoriented with this whole process now. It’s done me in. I’m like one of those detainees denied sleep. I’ll agree to anything. I just want them to stop playing Metallica at full volume and allow me to sleep.
    [/QUOTE]
    lol

    It is some manure show to be fair, how we got here and worse by spending 100’s of millions is beyond me and back to where we were in 2013 with Davey.

    You actually couldn’t make up, but you will still get people who say The Mostrix and Brands are the best things ever to happen to Everton. I missed the when and how, when that might have happened.

    Whatever you think of Bill, he never presided over the carnage of whats gone on off the field since the takeover. I see quotes of Moshiri taking over the ” next management appointment personally” and it fills me with dread.

  230. [QUOTE=”Charles Plastusz, post: 7482720, member: 43824″]
    Honestly think this appointment if true is borderline antagonistic, big Dunc helped us regain a sense of unity last week that I truly feel will be shattered by the return of dithering ratboy. Can see us having a very humpty dumpty Christmas. The people making these decisions are like nazi scientists, testing how many times they can break us only for us to heal and return to our seats. Oh well Moyes it is, Barmby as his assistant with a clear succession plan for Gerrard to take over!
    [/QUOTE]
    It’s Bill’s turn

  231. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7482825, member: 52747″]
    It’s been less than a week you maniac!
    [/QUOTE]
    It hasn’t though. Itl;s been a few months since all the talk of Silva on the way out started.

    I dont care who they get in. Get them in – but make sure they know this league. My only criteria. Safety. 40 odd points. Then begin again.

  232. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482814, member: 1745″]
    I;m not mate. I’m dead set against it. I underlined that. I;m just sick of this season and want safety. Motes gets that. Then he can go.
    [/QUOTE]

    Moyes wouldn’t be an Allardyce. He wouldn’t be the fall guy.

    The only way is up with this Everton team, and that direction gets him the gig.

    From a footballing image perspective – he would also be another big nail in Everton’s coffin.

    Always try and give you the benefit of doubt mate, but it’s becoming increasinly apparent to me that you’re just a WUM who goes against the grain.

    I mean, this was before we beat Chelsea;

    [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7429217, member: 1745″]
    I;d have Benitez over Moyes. That’s how much I dont want Moyes back.
    [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7426089, member: 1745″]
    If we end up with Moyes, you’ll know what a chocolate fireguard this feller Brands is.
    [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7472355, member: 1745″]
    People wonder why some of us shudder at the prosepct of a change back to Moyes. One of his acolytes underlined what it’d be like today.

    We cant re-embrace that nonsense. It’s taken us 5 years to get shut of that long ball image that came in even before Moyes was here.
    [/QUOTE]

    [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7431105, member: 1745″]
    Getting use to the idea of this now. It would be emblematic of the failed Moshiri project to have Moyes back.
    [/QUOTE]

  233. I will begrudgingly accept Moyes interim with Big Dunc as his assistant but we need a long term manager with more ambition. None of the names that have been thrown around are stand out or fit us apart from Ancelotti and Marcelino the rest are risks or not attainable for us. So I understand the anger at reappointing Moyes as it shows the failure at the clubs but I would ask who else can we get in the situation we are in? So get Moyes interim then look again in the summer.

  234. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482823, member: 1745″]
    I’m disoriented with this whole process now. It’s done me in. I’m like one of those detainees denied sleep. I’ll agree to anything. I just want them to stop playing Metallica at full volume and allow me to sleep.
    [/QUOTE]

    It’s been less than a week you maniac!

  235. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482814, member: 1745″]
    I;m not mate. I’m dead set against it. I underlined that. I;m just sick of this season and want safety. Moyes gets that. Then he can go.
    [/QUOTE]

    I’ll ask again Dave, why do you think Moyes can do that? And why has nobody else gone near him for 18 months?

  236. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7482797, member: 32″]
    Its the clever play, in a dearth of ropey candidates, obviously Anchelotti would be brilliant, but its pie in the sky sports stuff. This decision is important to the welfare of the club to take risks with in my opinion.

    I do like him more then you though, always have as you know, i actually think he could build something and buy some decent players with money.
    [/QUOTE]

    I’m disoriented with this whole process now. It’s done me in. I’m like one of those detainees denied sleep. I’ll agree to anything. I just want them to stop playing Metallica at full volume and allow me to sleep.

  237. [QUOTE=”brian labone, post: 7482816, member: 30620″]
    Mr Moshiri If you are unsure about how Everton fans feel about the possible signing of Moyes just read the many fans forums and if you go ahead then on your own head be it, he is a loser.
    [/QUOTE]

    If he;s reading that then your request is already redundant…

  238. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482814, member: 1745″]
    I;m not mate. I’m dead set against it. I underlined that. I;m just sick of this season and want safety. Moyes gets that. Then he can go.
    [/QUOTE]

    Nonsense – you see what the contrarian view is and take it, time after time.

  239. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482808, member: 1745″]
    Why get stressed out? Moyes until the summer.
    [/QUOTE]

    Dave has been kidnapped and replaced with some mellow imposter!

  240. Mr Moshiri If you are unsure about how Everton fans feel about the possible signing of Moyes just read the many fans forums and if you go ahead then on your own head be it, he is a loser.

  241. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482811, member: 1″]
    Just going against the grain, as always Dave.

    Boring.
    [/QUOTE]
    I;m not mate. I’m dead set against it. I underlined that. I;m just sick of this season and want safety. Moyes gets that. Then he can go.

  242. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7482806, member: 1″]
    If they do go for Moyes, personally It’ll be the most disappointed I’ve ever been in the club.

    [B]It’ll also be with Brands’ blessing – which contributes to the level of disappointment.[/B]

    At least with Allardyce I understood he was the fall guy until Silva could come in.
    [/QUOTE]
    …worse than that: I think it’d be with his reluctance. Which stores up chaos for the future.

    We should never have started using a DoF.

  243. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482808, member: 1745″]
    Calm? No. Just realistic. The season is over in any case. Why get stressed out? Moyes until the summer.
    [/QUOTE]

    Just going against the grain, as always Dave.

    Boring.

  244. [QUOTE=”Thomasc, post: 7482792, member: 38546″]
    surprisingly calm about this David?

    Sedatives not worn off yet this morning?
    [/QUOTE]
    Calm? No. Just realistic. The season is over in any case. Why get stressed out? Moyes until the summer.

  245. [QUOTE=”Thomasc, post: 7482803, member: 38546″]
    based on what exactly? What he did over 8 years ago?
    [/QUOTE]

    Largely saving us from relegation to qualifying for the CL in 24 odd months.

    I also liked qualifying for Europe regularly on a shoe string, but call me old fashioned.

  246. If they do go for Moyes, personally It’ll be the most disappointed I’ve ever been in the club.

    It’ll also be with Brands’ blessing – which contributes to the level of disappointment.

    At least with Allardyce I understood he was the fall guy until Silva could come in.

  247. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7482797, member: 32″]
    Its the clever play, in a dearth of ropey candidates, obviously Anchelotti wold be brilliant, but its pie in the sky stuff. This decision is important to the welfare of the club do take risks with in my opinion.

    I do like him more then you though, always have as you know, i [B]actually thing he could build something and but some decent players with money.[/B]
    [/QUOTE]

    based on what exactly? What he did over 8 years ago?

  248. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482770, member: 1745″]
    If it is Moyes, we have to be grown up about this. He’s defo not my cup of tea – to say the least. However, the club’s well being for the rest of the season is paramount, so we may have to put up with it. Obviously the criticism over any such appointment will be well justified.
    [/QUOTE]

    Its the clever play, in a dearth of ropey candidates, obviously Anchelotti would be brilliant, but its pie in the sky sports stuff. This decision is to important to the welfare of the club to take risks with in my opinion.

    I do like him more then you though, always have as you know, i actually think he could build something and buy some decent players with money.

  249. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482783, member: 1745″]
    First of all: I dont want him here. But he knows the club. He did ok(ish) with West Ham. I can see him getting a fight out of these players and he has experience in this league.
    [/QUOTE]

    I respect that you don’t want him here. But he’s been on the outside of the club for six years, so does he really know it? We had fight out of the players on Saturday with Goodison absolutely rocking and you know that once he gets his feet back under the table him and Kenwright will be conniving to keep them there.

    Why would we even look at a fella no other club will go near because he knows where the toilets are?

  250. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482770, member: 1745″]
    If it is Moyes, we have to be grown up about this. He’s defo not my cup of tea – to say the least. However, the club’s well being for the rest of the season is paramount, so we may have to put up with it. Obviously the criticism over any such appointment will be well justified.
    [/QUOTE]

    surprisingly calm about this David?

    Sedatives not worn off yet this morning?

  251. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7482779, member: 52747″]
    Why would you trust Moyes with the wellbeing of the club?
    [/QUOTE]
    First of all: I dont want him here. But he knows the club. He did ok(ish) with West Ham. I can see him getting a fight out of these players and he has experience in this league.

  252. [QUOTE=”davek, post: 7482770, member: 1745″]
    If it is Moyes, we have to be grown up about this. He’s defo not my cup of tea – to say the least. However, the club’s well being for the rest of the season is paramount, so we may have to put up with it. Obviously the criticism over any such appointment will be well justified.
    [/QUOTE]

    Why would you trust Moyes with the wellbeing of the club?

  253. The most concerning thing about all of this is that it’d mean that Moshiri and Kenwright simply aren’t allowing Brands to do his job. If I was brought in to make all the footballing decisions for a club and the chairman and owner completely went over my head I’d be off like a shot. They’re playing a very dangerous and quite frankly stupid game if they’re not letting him do what he’s employed to do. No other DoF with an ounce of self respect would come near us afterwards.

  254. If it is Moyes, we have to be grown up about this. He’s defo not my cup of tea – to say the least. However, the club’s well being for the rest of the season is paramount, so we may have to put up with it. Obviously the criticism over any such appointment will be well justified.

  255. Let me just leave this with any Moyes supporters as there are a small minority on here.
    Why don’t Arsenal go after Moyes?

  256. [QUOTE=”mikeh72, post: 7482725, member: 17469″]
    That’s a mad one, did he really say that? So he never believed we could beat Kenny Dalglish’s 8th placed Liverpool side that included Charlie Adam, Stewart Downing, Jay Spearing and Martin Kelly?
    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah I think it was actually in the Sun as well!!!

  257. Moyes was one of the main reasons why I gave up my season ticket I just had enough of the knife to gun fight mentality. Since then nothing has happened that has made me want it back. Some will say I’m not a true supporter but having had a season ticket since I was 12 I didn’t make the decision lightly.

  258. To be honest, the more I think about it, the more I worry that this is a reflection of Kenwright’s influence beginning to grow again.

    This cuts Brands’ legs out from under him and you’d wonder why we would allow this if we have any faith in him.

    That concerns me more than the idea of Moyes himself

  259. [QUOTE=”Charles Plastusz, post: 7482720, member: 43824″]
    Honestly think this appointment if true is borderline antagonistic, big Dunc helped us regain a sense of unity last week that I truly feel will be shattered by the return of dithering ratboy. Can see us having a very humpty dumpty Christmas. [B][SIZE=7]The people making these decisions are like nazi scientists[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=7],[/SIZE] testing how many times they can break us only for us to heal and return to our seats. Oh well Moyes it is, Barmby as his assistant with a clear succession plan for Gerrard to take over!
    [/QUOTE]
    [IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/Qw7gtQtQUa5AFk7WQQ/giphy.gif[/IMG]

  260. [QUOTE=”sharkey1001, post: 7482709, member: 9693″]
    If Moyes gets appointed then Brands will leave, and it is clear that Kenwright has far too much influence and Moshiri will be forever known as “Fraudhad Moshiri”

    Davey Moyes:
    [LIST]
    [*]Called Everton fans a disgrace
    [*]Said 6 months before he got the Utd job that “Everton do not sell players cheaply” – them put in a £25m bid for Baines AND Fellaini.
    [*]Dropped his balls in the Cup final completely
    [*]Never won away at a big club, never even tried
    [*][B]Said on his first visit to Anfield with Man U “finally I have a team that can go and win at Anfield”[/B]. Still lost.
    [*]Bid for Lionel Messi! Like seriously…. ended up with his only signing being Fellaini!!! No big player would even consider signing for him.
    [*]Failed miserably at Man U, Sociedad, Sunderland & West Ham
    [*]Knives to gunfights
    [*]Creating and exacerbating a culture of “plucky little Everton”
    [*]Spread doom and gloom when things were going bad.
    [/LIST]
    I genuinely cannot think of a worse appointment for EFC.

    Lad on talksport called us a “pointless club” this morning… this would confirm this for me.
    [/QUOTE]

    That’s a mad one, did he really say that? So he never believed we could beat Kenny Dalglish’s 8th placed Liverpool side that included Charlie Adam, Stewart Downing, Jay Spearing and Martin Kelly?

  261. [QUOTE=”sharkey1001, post: 7482709, member: 9693″]
    If Moyes gets appointed then Brands will leave, and it is clear that Kenwright has far too much influence and Moshiri will be forever known as “Fraudhad Moshiri”

    Davey Moyes:
    [LIST]
    [*]Called Everton fans a disgrace
    [*]Said 6 months before he got the Utd job that “Everton do not sell players cheaply” – them put in a £25m bid for Baines AND Fellaini.
    [*]Dropped his balls in the Cup final completely
    [*]Never won away at a big club, never even tried
    [*]Said on his first visit to Anfield with Man U “finally I have a team that can go and win at Anfield”. Still lost.
    [*]Bid for Lionel Messi! Like seriously…. ended up with his only signing being Fellaini!!! No big player would even consider signing for him.
    [*]Failed miserably at Man U, Sociedad, Sunderland & West Ham
    [*]Knives to gunfights
    [*]Creating and exacerbating a culture of “plucky little Everton”
    [*]Spread doom and gloom when things were going bad.
    [/LIST]
    I genuinely cannot think of a worse appointment for EFC.

    Lad on talksport called us a “pointless club” this morning… this would confirm this for me.
    [/QUOTE]

    Well said mate, this all day long

  262. Honestly think this appointment if true is borderline antagonistic, big Dunc helped us regain a sense of unity last week that I truly feel will be shattered by the return of dithering ratboy. Can see us having a very humpty dumpty Christmas. The people making these decisions are like nazi scientists, testing how many times they can break us only for us to heal and return to our seats. Oh well Moyes it is, Barmby as his assistant with a clear succession plan for Gerrard to take over!

  263. If the board appoint Moyes, it quite clearly states that
    1 have no ambition
    2 never want us to compete
    3 have no idea what they are doing
    4 the atmosphere on sat will be a distant memory, can you imagine the atmosphere next home match with him in charge,( there will be lots of empty seats that’s for certain, starting with mine)

  264. If Moyes gets appointed then Brands will leave, and it is clear that Kenwright has far too much influence and Moshiri will be forever known as “Fraudhad Moshiri”

    Davey Moyes:
    [LIST]
    [*]Called Everton fans a disgrace
    [*]Said 6 months before he got the Utd job that “Everton do not sell players cheaply” – them put in a £25m bid for Baines AND Fellaini.
    [*]Dropped his balls in the Cup final completely
    [*]Never won away at a big club, never even tried
    [*]Said on his first visit to Anfield with Man U “finally I have a team that can go and win at Anfield”. Still lost.
    [*]Bid for Lionel Messi! Like seriously…. ended up with his only signing being Fellaini!!! No big player would even consider signing for him.
    [*]Failed miserably at Man U, Sociedad, Sunderland & West Ham
    [*]Knives to gunfights
    [*]Creating and exacerbating a culture of “plucky little Everton”
    [*]Spread doom and gloom when things were going bad.
    [/LIST]
    I genuinely cannot think of a worse appointment for EFC.

    Lad on talksport called us a “pointless club” this morning… this would confirm this for me.

  265. [QUOTE=”Bryan, post: 7482701, member: 28206″]
    ?????
    [/QUOTE]

    Well there we have it. The smoking gun. Case closed. Moyes is manager.

  266. Stinks of Kenwright. I’m not 100% against this but it would be the most underwhelming appointment they could make.

  267. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7482687, member: 43971″]
    Doesn’t seem to be any evidence provided in that article.
    [/QUOTE]
    [QUOTE] Moyes, 56, was on the brink of coming back to Goodison Park as the club looked for a short-term solution to their managerial vacancy.[/QUOTE]

    ?????

  268. [QUOTE=”bol-uk, post: 7482685, member: 11150″]
    top of this page mate
    [/QUOTE]

    Doesn’t seem to be any evidence provided in that article.

  269. [QUOTE=”Death, post: 7482680, member: 43971″]
    Seems to be a lot of activity. What is causing people to panic does it seem likely or something? I think I missed some news.
    [/QUOTE]
    top of this page mate

  270. Seems to be a lot of activity. What is causing people to panic does it seem likely or something? I think I missed some news.

  271. [QUOTE=”Bryan, post: 7482635, member: 28206″]
    Joyce has spoken.

    [ATTACH type=”full” alt=”73574″]73574[/ATTACH]
    [/QUOTE]
    Isn’t Joyce Kenwright’s boy? Isn’t this just a PR push from the Blue of the Millennium (or whatever ridiculous title Bill awarded himself)?

  272. worst appointment I could imagine this

    the board will have failed miserably if they have gone from names like poch, carlo, emery, marcelino, kovac and end up with this has been

  273. [QUOTE=”captainvindaloo, post: 7481477, member: 40492″]
    Re-hiring Moyes is equivalent to grabbing last month’s leftover pizza from the back of the fridge.
    The reasoning being: “It tasted alright when I put it in there”
    [/QUOTE]
    Or your bird from 6 years ago who’s gained 50 pounds, smokes like a chimney, her teeth are rotting out of her head and she’s got 3 stinky kids, but wants to get back with you. Oh, and she’s wearing an RS tracksuit.

  274. Does seem strange , Ferguson united us and got the atmosphere rocking Goodison again, he also showed an aptitude for tactical choices. Why wouldn’t we leave him in place if we are so useless we can find no other option in the world of football.
    All the appointment of the bog eyed malignant one will do is divide the support and turn Goodison into a fractious ,ill tempered place.
    Given that Gollum relegated Sunderland (and nearly relegated us in his second season , by the way), it seems a foolish move at best.
    Still hoping it’s fake news, but my anger is growing.

  275. [QUOTE=”Bryan, post: 7482635, member: 28206″]
    Joyce has spoken.

    [ATTACH type=”full” alt=”73574″]73574[/ATTACH]
    [/QUOTE]

    go on Everton do it, give me the permanent excuse to cut you loose from my life.

  276. [QUOTE=”Gwladysstreetlad, post: 7482612, member: 30862″]
    We’d honestly be better off going back to BFS then Moyes. I can’t stand either of them but the fact is that I’d feel totally confident in BFS’s ability to keep us up every season, which is more then I can say for Moyes. Basically if either of those clowns are appointed, I won’t be attending the match for the foreseeable future. Even after they’re gone I won’t be back. Everyone has a limit or a cut off point and the return of Moyes or BFS is my cut off point, I won’t continue to pay good money to be disrespected by the club like that.
    [/QUOTE]
    Couldn’t agree more.

  277. No

    I wish the club would release a statement saying hes not shortlisted.
    Stop talksport and sky pushing this then

  278. We’d honestly be better off going back to BFS then Moyes. I can’t stand either of them but the fact is that I’d feel totally confident in BFS’s ability to keep us up every season, which is more then I can say for Moyes. Basically if either of those clowns are appointed, I won’t be attending the match for the foreseeable future. Even after they’re gone I won’t be back. Everyone has a limit or a cut off point and the return of Moyes or BFS is my cut off point, I won’t continue to pay good money to be disrespected by the club like that.

  279. [QUOTE=”captainvindaloo, post: 7481477, member: 40492″]
    Re-hiring Moyes is equivalent to grabbing last month’s leftover pizza from the back of the fridge.
    The reasoning being: “It tasted alright when I put it in there”
    [/QUOTE]
    actually it was boring and crap when I put it in there and now its just stale bread with a bit of red and yellow on top, but mostly moldy and it will make you sick..

  280. Re-hiring Moyes is equivalent to grabbing last month’s leftover pizza from the back of the fridge.
    The reasoning being: “It tasted alright when I put it in there”

  281. please stop talk of this bog eyed ginger coward.Nothing says Everton are a small club more than people wanting the return of a man who has never done anything of note in 20 years of management

    it’s embarrassing

  282. [QUOTE=”LEONARD, post: 7481095, member: 42514″]
    Just when you think 2019 can’t get any worse.

    Friday morning, Boris Johnson and the Tories get back in, and Moyes is named as our new manager.

    🙁
    [/QUOTE]

    Stuff of nightmares

  283. [QUOTE=”Charles Hawtrey, post: 7481245, member: 32390″]
    Might be the time to change citizenship.
    [/QUOTE]

    I’m off to North Korea, plenty of parades, and none featuring the RS.

    😉

  284. [QUOTE=”LEONARD, post: 7481095, member: 42514″]
    Just when you think 2019 can’t get any worse.

    Friday morning, Boris Johnson and the Tories get back in, and Moyes is named as our new manager.

    🙁
    [/QUOTE]
    Might be the time to change citizenship.

  285. Just when you think 2019 can’t get any worse.

    Friday morning, Boris Johnson and the Tories get back in, and Moyes is named as our new manager.

    🙁

  286. [QUOTE=”Gaffa, post: 7480131, member: 33636″]
    Absolutely not and now I’m worried he’s coming back
    [/QUOTE]

    He won’t mate unless every manager knocks us back, and even then Ferguson deserves it before this dinosaur

  287. There’s nothing to be gained from bringing Moyes back.

    If things are still desperate in January, I’d sooner just re-sign Fellaini and scrap our way out of trouble by launching balls up to his chest.

  288. [QUOTE=”Francis, post: 7479774, member: 46838″]
    Indeed Dunc used Moyes style football, they are match each other, Dunc become no.2 is a good combination with Moyes
    [/QUOTE]

    Ferguson is actually a pretty big Martinez disciple. Given a bit of time his team would resemble a Martinez team more than a Moyes one.

  289. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7479779, member: 52747″]
    So if Duncan Ferguson can play the same football ( I don’t think he did but let’s go with it) and motivate the players… What would we be paying Moyes for?
    [/QUOTE]

    Director of Football

  290. [QUOTE=”Eggsyblueskin, post: 7479825, member: 22869″]
    Moyes doesn’t play with two up front for one thing , so that’s wrong.
    Dunc has the enthusiastic support of the whole crowd, Moyes wouldn’t have that, for another thing.
    Finally Moyes is a despicable, untrustworthy sly , deceitful scumbag for whom I only wish bad things.
    On balance it’s a No from me.
    [/QUOTE]

    Although I know many evertonians are not like Moyes back, I believe he suit to the club and the team, especially several managers after him are disaster and used 200m pound without progress. Sure Rafa is ok for me too, but he seem will not come.

  291. [QUOTE=”Francis, post: 7479774, member: 46838″]
    Indeed Dunc used Moyes style football, they are match each other, Dunc become no.2 is a good combination with Moyes
    [/QUOTE]
    Moyes doesn’t play with two up front for one thing , so that’s wrong.
    Dunc has the enthusiastic support of the whole crowd, Moyes wouldn’t have that, for another thing.
    Finally Moyes is a despicable, untrustworthy sly , deceitful scumbag for whom I only wish bad things.
    On balance it’s a No from me.

  292. [QUOTE=”Francis, post: 7479774, member: 46838″]
    Indeed Dunc used Moyes style football, they are match each other, Dunc become no.2 is a good combination with Moyes
    [/QUOTE]

    So if Duncan Ferguson can play the same football ( I don’t think he did but let’s go with it) and motivate the players… What would we be paying Moyes for?

  293. [QUOTE=”Francis, post: 7479774, member: 46838″]
    Indeed Dunc used Moyes style football, they are match each other, Dunc become no.2 is a good combination with Moyes
    [/QUOTE]

    No its not

  294. Indeed Dunc used Moyes style football, they are match each other, Dunc become no.2 is a good combination with Moyes

  295. It’s never, ever going to happen now. If Moyes couldn’t get the job after Silva first went then he’s never getting it. That was last chance saloon for Moyes. If its true that he wanted a long deal, then he’s even stupider then I thought as he overplayed an extremely weak hand!

  296. I may of misheard it but I think Simon jordon on talkSPORT say moyes has been interviewed along with other managers anyone else catch it ?

  297. Idealistically he’s not a bad idea however he wouldn’t have rye support like Dunc did on Saturday crowd and team morale is most important at the minute unless a top class candidate makes them selfs av

  298. [QUOTE=”Kev The Rat, post: 7479371, member: 23770″]
    As ever that all depends on results
    [/QUOTE]
    To a point , but after eleven years of never once getting a win away at a top club and always failing in the important games, he’d have to up his game and his most recent managerial performances suggest not much has changed.
    Underlying all this is his brazen slyness and general deceit when he was here previously.
    He’s a perpetual mid table manager, that’s all he ever was and all he will ever be. He even demoted the league champions to that position.
    I couldn’t support him anyway.

  299. Just worried that we are going to appoint another foreign coach who over complicates things and doesn’t understand the club and the fans I suppose .

  300. [QUOTE=”Kirkles, post: 7478270, member: 52861″]
    I was against the idea but after Sunday starting to change my mind. And when I see the list of managers – most of who wouldn’t know the club , would probably confuse the players and try and play tika taka footy that most of us don’t like to watch then maybe Moyes with Dunc as number 2? Ticks more boxes than most that have been linked.
    [/QUOTE]

    What would Moyes bring to the table in this scenario?

  301. [QUOTE=”Eggsyblueskin, post: 7479365, member: 22869″]
    If we went down that path I’d rather we just solely appointed Dunc.
    Duncan commands overwhelming support in a way that Moyes never will again.
    [/QUOTE]
    As ever that all depends on results

  302. [QUOTE=”Kirkles, post: 7478270, member: 52861″]
    I was against the idea but after Sunday starting to change my mind. And when I see the list of managers – most of who wouldn’t know the club , would probably confuse the players and try and play tika taka footy that most of us don’t like to watch then maybe Moyes with Dunc as number 2? Ticks more boxes than most that have been linked.
    [/QUOTE]
    If we went down that path I’d rather we just solely appointed Dunc.
    Duncan commands overwhelming support in a way that Moyes never will again.

  303. [QUOTE=”Kirkles, post: 7478270, member: 52861″]
    I was against the idea but after Sunday starting to change my mind. And when I see the list of managers – most of who wouldn’t know the club , would probably confuse the players and try and play tika taka footy that most of us don’t like to watch then maybe Moyes with Dunc as number 2? Ticks more boxes than most that have been linked.
    [/QUOTE]

    And to think that that Continental style of play was the invention of an Englishman (well, a Manc anyway).
    The Continental tag was attached simply because he was managing a Dutch side at the time.

    Guaranteed cure for insomnia.

  304. I was against the idea but after Sunday starting to change my mind. And when I see the list of managers – most of who wouldn’t know the club , would probably confuse the players and try and play tika taka footy that most of us don’t like to watch then maybe Moyes with Dunc as number 2? Ticks more boxes than most that have been linked.

  305. [QUOTE=”dannyboy, post: 7466161, member: 14899″]
    [URL unfurl=”true”]https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50681211[/URL]

    Leon would have him back…
    [/QUOTE]
    yeah he did ok under Moyes.

  306. I’ve even shocked myself with the accuracy of this part of my prediction.

    [QUOTE=”Berenger, post: 7464757, member: 11160″]
    I really don’t think Moyes is out of the question just because he hasn’t come in today.

    There is literally no evidence of the board ever acting with any foresight on managerial matters.

    Yet there is ample evidence of them acting reactively. That’s what they’ve done following the derby, which they were hoping wouldn’t be a thrashing. But it was.

    They think they need to be seen to do something — action is better than inaction for them — and that’s when Kenwright weasels his romanticist PR machine into the process. Last time it was Unsworth. This time it’s Duncan. [B]Next time it will be Sheedy or Ebbrell or Jeffers.[/B]

    For the rest of the season it will probably be Moyes and Cahill.
    [/QUOTE]

    [MEDIA=twitter]1202895409405935616[/MEDIA]

  307. [QUOTE=”smileychap, post: 7465830, member: 35792″]
    Moyes head and shoulders for where we are now. He’ll do an Alladyce job at worse… perhaps not get us up to 8th, is all. But then Alladyce stank for most Everton fans on this forum.

    What we need is more overseas players, less character in squad, higher manager turnover (and spend!) and lower league position. So given the Brands reign is delivering that (I wonder if his salary is affected) many on here should be happy with those other names in the list.

    I commented a month back we should go for Poch when available – based on his pedigree and use of british players at Spurs.
    [/QUOTE]

    Poch apparently has been told by his friends not to touch the Arsenal job but wait until something better comes along.

    He may follow their advice when Arsenal tire of the Ljunberg’s ‘temporary’ tenure but we would hardly be what his friends had in mind.

  308. Moyes would do a job at Watford. Keep them up. I don’t think they’d extend his contract past that. I don’t know, ask the Watford supporters? I don’t think they’d touch him with a barge pole myself.

    Tells you something when he’s been out of the game so long, that the only shouts for him to return are based on, he used to manage us once.

  309. Moyes head and shoulders for where we are now. He’ll do an Alladyce job at worse… perhaps not get us up to 8th, is all. But then Alladyce stank for most Everton fans on this forum.

    What we need is more overseas players, less character in squad, higher manager turnover (and spend!) and lower league position. So given the Brands reign is delivering that (I wonder if his salary is affected) many on here should be happy with those other names in the list.

    I commented a month back we should go for Poch when available – based on his pedigree and use of british players at Spurs.

  310. Can’t really answer this as I have no idea if the incumbent janitor is doing a good job or not.

  311. Like the prefect storm all this.. the red shite pissing the league,were shite and in the bottom 3,manager sacked and now were looking at the ginger prick who stitched us up and then tried to ckme back and take 2 of our best players stating we were holding them back because we wouldnt let them step up… he becomes out manager im off and they can stick my season ticket up their incompetent arses….

  312. [QUOTE=”john jako, post: 7460099, member: 32818″]
    Would rather guide my dad into my mum.
    [/QUOTE]

    I’d rather pay to see that.

  313. 1586 votes for Moyes

    That’s 1583 koppites for sure.

    They would just love that, wouldn’t they.

  314. It’s time the board took a long hard look at themselves. They’ve hid behind managerial appointments and allowed them to be publicly humiliated, going as far back as Martinez. When everybody knew their time was up.

    If the best they can come up with this time around is David Moyes, it’s simply gross incompetence. As was the appointment of Allardyce. To hear his ex-players talking him up, tells you all need to know. Jobs for the boys, shandies all round.

    If that doesn’t raise red flags, we have Carragher saying he’s the best we can hope for. The lot across the park are rejoicing. They know we will never compete if he rolls up.

    And this is the crux. When Benitez called us out as a small club, was he wrong? Absolutely, but we were and have been acting like one. The board is to blame for that, not the managers, players or supporters. It’s on their doorstep.

    They may know about business but they know nothing about football. They need to hire someone who isn’t a yes man, somebody who will rock the boat. Fight, get in the faces of officials, the league, journalists and aggressively pursue what this club was intended to do. Win…Win and win again.

    It makes enemies and your hated. Good. The last time we won the league your Reids, Grays, Van de Hauwes. They knew what it took. Winners, it’s a mentality and a way of life. Our boardroom is filled with cowards who hide behind their asinine appointments.

    They don’t know what they are doing. Appoint someone who does ffs.

  315. [QUOTE=”Ibby, post: 7463481, member: 47160″]
    Well at that time Silva was the manager, out of respect Moyes did not want to talk to them, while a person is in a job.
    [/QUOTE]

    Aye, that sounds like David Moyes…

  316. No

    Firstly I do not believe in the reappointment of a previous manager in principle , especially one who did not leave under positive circumstances ,then after leaving Everton it went rapidly downhill from there !

  317. Putting aside the fact that he ran down his contract and conspired to leave us for Man Utd months before telling Kenwright and the board. He’s just been sacked by four clubs, one of which (Sunderland) he relegated. Would we be considering him had he spent 11 barren years at Villa before being sacked four times?

    If he’s appointed I will get behind him (including in verbal terms, because I sit quite close to the dugout), but he is not the man to keep us up.

  318. [QUOTE=”CairnsToffee, post: 7465288, member: 33497″]
    No its not irrelevant as you have stated what could Tim Cahill offer, what did Mikel Arteta offer to Pep, being one of the number one managers in the world, what was the attraction to Mikel

    I don’t believe that Moyes is the answer, but I believe that someone of Tim ability to work with people could be a great plus, hopefully the same as what Man City get from Arteta.

    I also don’t believe that Duncan Ferguson is a good idea too, as he was the constant in the last four managers who failed

    We have to be realistic on who we can attract, still think the Leeds guys Bielsa (Spelling?) is worth a shout, but as [USER=26361]@Nymzee[/USER] pointed out that would not be a long term appointment, which is probably correct, but have any of our last four been long?

    Its a real problem for the board on who we can attract, word has it that Marcel is looking at the Ajax manager, money is the only attraction to come to this club, as the rest is a poison chalice
    [/QUOTE]
    I get what you’re saying, but you seem to forget he joined a top management team at a top, top club.

    That gives him the opportunity to learn from the best at relatively low risk.

    Everton, in it’s current plight is anything but low risk.

    Why gamble with a totally untried coach and an obsolete manager?

  319. Just can’t believe there is no contingency plan in place. Silva was a decent bet to lose his job this season and this is the Premier League where managers lose their jobs all the time. The club is run so badly…..
    We really shouldnt be appointing anybody short term whilst we look for someone long term. A football club should always be looking long term and they should have had this lined up. Appointing short term just shows how badly the club is run.

  320. [QUOTE=”BNJ1878, post: 7465242, member: 7933″]
    Neither do I, however it’s completely irrelevant to this conversation.

    Arteta would be working alongside arguably the worlds best manager and his already strong backroom team, allowing him time to learn on the job.

    An equally inexperienced Cahill paired with the busted flush that is Moyes, going into a club in turmoil is a massive gamble.

    (by the way I just woke up and see we have Duncan in charge for Saturday. Christ, we are an absolute joke)
    [/QUOTE]

    No its not irrelevant as you have stated what could Tim Cahill offer, what did Mikel Arteta offer to Pep, being one of the number one managers in the world, what was the attraction to Mikel

    I don’t believe that Moyes is the answer, but I believe that someone of Tim ability to work with people could be a great plus, hopefully the same as what Man City get from Arteta.

    I also don’t believe that Duncan Ferguson is a good idea too, as he was the constant in the last four managers who failed

    We have to be realistic on who we can attract, still think the Leeds guys Bielsa (Spelling?) is worth a shout, but as [USER=26361]@Nymzee[/USER] pointed out that would not be a long term appointment, which is probably correct, but have any of our last four been long?

    Its a real problem for the board on who we can attract, word has it that Marcel is looking at the Ajax manager, money is the only attraction to come to this club, as the rest is a poison chalice

  321. [QUOTE=”BNJ1878, post: 7460132, member: 7933″]
    All of it.

    Moyes this, Moyes that.

    If he had stayed at (for example) Southampton for 11 years, did essentially nothing there, and was then:

    Fired from UTD in quick time
    Fired from Spain
    Took Sunderland down
    Fired by West Ham

    You would be livid if he was linked to the job.

    What makes you think for one second getting him back and pairing him with a former player will be a winning combination?

    As others have said, I would HONESTLY sooner stick with Silva.
    [/QUOTE][QUOTE=”CairnsToffee, post: 7465188, member: 33497″]
    Just a thought but what had Arteta done before he became Peps assistant as I dont know?
    [/QUOTE]
    Neither do I, however it’s completely irrelevant to this conversation.

    Arteta would be working alongside arguably the worlds best manager and his already strong backroom team, allowing him time to learn on the job.

    An equally inexperienced Cahill paired with the busted flush that is Moyes, going into a club in turmoil is a massive gamble.

    (by the way I just woke up and see we have Duncan in charge for Saturday. Christ, we are an absolute joke)

  322. [QUOTE=”BiggyRat, post: 7465177, member: 5832″]
    What you need to take from that is that even Osman concedes that it’s a step back! 😉
    [/QUOTE]
    Perhaps. If Osman misses Moyes though, I’d rather the club just sent the two of them go karting together on transfer deadline day.

    Give the manager’s job to someone else.

  323. [QUOTE=”BNJ1878, post: 7460061, member: 7933″]
    You are Bill Kenwright and I claim my 5 pounds prize for guessing.

    Cahill as an assistant? BASED ON WHAT?????

    NO track record as a coach.

    If you think the fact “He was boss in the derby lad!” qualifies him you are part of the all-encompassing malaise around this football club.

    Bill needs running over, and then EVERY NON-PLAYING EMPLOYEE needs to re-interview for the job they are doing.

    Bollocks to sentiment, if you are not fit for the task, get rid.

    Tim Cahill. Christ.
    [/QUOTE]

    Just a thought but what had Arteta done before he became Peps assistant as I dont know?

  324. [QUOTE=”Dwight K Schrute, post: 7465161, member: 26734″]
    And so it begins: [URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/50681211[/URL]

    Old snakey Leon pointing out that ‘a step backward would be a good thing’.

    Makes me sick the way that lot all talk like they built a footballing dynasty.
    [/QUOTE]
    What you need to take from that is that even Osman concedes that it’s a step back! 😉

  325. Get moyesy back until the end of the season to steady the ship. Then look at possibly arteta for the summer.
    I can only see us making a panic decision at the moment, unless it’s moyes short term
    or all out for poch!

  326. And so it begins: [URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/50681211[/URL]

    Old snakey Leon pointing out that ‘a step backward would be a good thing’.

    Makes me sick the way that lot all talk like they built a footballing dynasty.

  327. If or rather when this happens I hope he doesn’t get off to a bad start because things could turn sour fast. Everyone will have to pull together until the summer however hard it is. The major issue is the plan going forward. We need the recruitment to be right.

    The situation is still that with back to back wins we could move up as high as 8th place. There are 6 points separating more than 10 teams! There’s still alot to fight for.

  328. I really don’t think Moyes is out of the question just because he hasn’t come in today.

    There is literally no evidence of the board ever acting with any foresight on managerial matters.

    Yet there is ample evidence of them acting reactively. That’s what they’ve done following the derby, which they were hoping wouldn’t be a thrashing. But it was.

    They think they need to be seen to do something — action is better than inaction for them — and that’s when Kenwright weasels his romanticist PR machine into the process. Last time it was Unsworth. This time it’s Duncan. Next time it will be Sheedy or Ebbrell or Jeffers.

    For the rest of the season it will probably be Moyes and Cahill.

  329. [QUOTE=”Librarian, post: 7462913, member: 8871″]
    He’ll lose his mind when he finds out they’ve wiped down his transfer targets board
    [/QUOTE]

    How hard is it to remember Alan Smith? 😉

  330. Well thank Christ this now looks to be put to bed.

    if it was going to be Moyes then he’d of come straight in I expect.

  331. [QUOTE=”jinkyali, post: 7463485, member: 15827″]
    We’ve probably been through the same ladies at one point.
    [/QUOTE]

    Get yourself to the GUM asap mucker.

  332. Hopefully no, but if it were to happen and it was purely until the end of the season then maybe I could liver with it.

  333. If moyes was going to be in charge, he would have been appointed today.
    I think they have their eye on someone else, but have to negotiate a fee (Eddie howe)?

  334. [QUOTE=”Ibby, post: 7463481, member: 47160″]
    Well at that time Silva was the manager, out of respect Moyes did not want to talk to them, while a person is in a job.
    [/QUOTE]

    Wait the man who spoke to Man U and was our manager? Respect lol he’s got none I hope he stays far far away

  335. [QUOTE=”Ibby, post: 7463481, member: 47160″]
    Well at that time Silva was the manager, out of respect Moyes did not want to talk to them, while a person is in a job.
    [/QUOTE]

    God ;(

  336. [QUOTE=”matty1878, post: 7463472, member: 2298″]
    They’ve had weeks to do so
    [/QUOTE]

    Well at that time Silva was the manager, out of respect Moyes did not want to talk to them, while a person is in a job.

  337. [QUOTE=”Ibby, post: 7463466, member: 47160″]
    The club are now working on it.
    [/QUOTE]

    They’ve had weeks to do so

  338. [QUOTE=”matty1878, post: 7463434, member: 2298″]
    Woudnt be be in now?
    [/QUOTE]

    The club are now working on it.

  339. [QUOTE=”Ibby, post: 7463401, member: 47160″]
    Moyes till end of the season.
    [/QUOTE]

    Woudnt be be in now?

  340. I’m not sure what’s going to be achieved by replacing a recently relegated manager with another recently relegated manager.

  341. [QUOTE=”Diogenes the Cynic, post: 7462845, member: 23738″]
    I lived in Blackpool for 6 months, coldest place in the world. But if you work night shifts like me [B]and want to sing karaoke or watch a Frank Sinatra tribute act at 9 o’clock on a Tuesday morning[/B] it was a fun place.

    Went to Lytham a few times on a night out, place is swarming with sweater neck knotted pretentious pricks who put on fake scouse accents and then look down their noses at you when you open your mouth. [B]Enjoyed ruining a few millionaire’s daughters [/B]during my brief acquaintance with the place though. [B]Used to make one girl dress up in her riding gear to open the door to me. I have a thing about riding gear, it’s sexy and the thought of a thousand Ruby Walsh losing bets gets me to the finish line without sparing the whip[/B].

    Blackpool is cold. Scottish people go there on holiday. I rest my case.
    [/QUOTE]

    I would vote for you no matter what party you aligned with because you are the man I always wanted to be 😉

  342. [QUOTE=”Steve Wigan, post: 7462846, member: 2789″]
    Wolves are 5th in the table, not ‘worse than us’, and have loads of money.
    Leeds manager may not cut it in the Prem.
    I’ve always thought FSW was a good shout, if only to pee off the RS.Unless he turned into ‘Agent Benitez’
    [/QUOTE]
    As I said to another poster Steve,they are names that have been mentioned,Im not saying we CAN get them,Im saying they are 3 managers who took over clubs worse off than us,the choices dont have to be Silva/Moyes,they dont have to be PL experience,theres a world of managers who would jump at a chance to have a go in the PL

  343. [QUOTE=”jaycee, post: 7460470, member: 8176″]
    Theres more than Moist and Silva in the world of football,people say we have no choice,3 names I wouldnt particularly want but have been mentioned a few times
    Benetiz- went to Newcastle when they were in a worse position than us
    Wolves manager- Championship side,worse position than us
    Leeds manager,championship worse than us,theres 3 names without even thinking,Im not saying they would come running here but they are examples of managers that are around
    [/QUOTE]

    Wolves are 5th in the table, not ‘worse than us’, and have loads of money.
    Leeds manager may not cut it in the Prem.
    I’ve always thought FSW was a good shout, if only to pee off the RS.Unless he turned into ‘Agent Benitez’

  344. [QUOTE=”jinkyali, post: 7462714, member: 15827″]
    Hey.
    Royal Lytham is far away from Blackpool thank you!
    [/QUOTE]

    I lived in Blackpool for 6 months, coldest place in the world. But if you work night shifts like me and want to sing karaoke or watch a Frank Sinatra tribute act at 9 o’clock on a Tuesday morning it was a fun place.

    Went to Lytham a few times on a night out, place is swarming with sweater neck knotted pretentious pricks who put on fake scouse accents and then look down their noses at you when you open your mouth. Enjoyed ruining a few millionaire’s daughters during my brief acquaintance with the place though. Used to make one girl dress up in her riding gear to open the door to me. I have a thing about riding gear, it’s sexy and the thought of a thousand Ruby Walsh losing bets gets me to the finish line without sparing the whip.

    Blackpool is cold. Scottish people go there on holiday. I rest my case.

  345. [QUOTE=”magicjuan, post: 7462719, member: 842″]
    Que?
    [/QUOTE]
    A man who owns one watch knows exactly what time it is
    A man who owns two is never quite sure

    I think some Managers are better with their back against the wall, small squad, the same tried and trusted few. Possibly easier to organise and instil siege mentality.

    Give them a big squad with cash and a few signings and it can be a lot different

  346. [QUOTE=”BigBlueConk, post: 7462649, member: 4236″]
    Moyes will not take us down.
    Marco looks incapable of stopping it.
    Moyes is fine for me to see the season out.
    No other realistic candidates will want the job.
    [/QUOTE]

    Moyes Could very easily take us down

  347. [QUOTE=”Del-boy, post: 7462551, member: 33177″]
    Dinosaur of a manger. Games moved on from his style. Recipe for disaster.
    [/QUOTE]

    he kept the hammers up when he was appointed there, so short term I’ll holdmy nose till season is over because the current form suggest we’re going down

    after that we have got to get someone else

  348. [QUOTE=”Seathestars, post: 7462309, member: 40160″]
    Yes, some Managers are better when they have only one watch, they know exactly what time it is
    If they have two they’re never quite sure
    [/QUOTE]

    Que?

  349. [QUOTE=”jinkyali, post: 7462653, member: 15827″]
    He lives two minutes from me in Lytham.
    Done very well for himself.
    [/QUOTE]

    Scottish people bloody love Blackpool.

  350. Moyes will not take us down.
    Marco looks incapable of stopping it.
    Moyes is fine for me to see the season out.
    No other realistic candidates will want the job.

  351. [QUOTE=”LocalNative, post: 7460054, member: 16917″]
    Not really.

    Saying that, don#t understand all the animosity here. If he comes in and steadies the ship like Allardyce done and we restart next Summer i’d be fine with that. Not sure which manager exotic, foreign manager people want to throw into a relegation dogfight with a bunch of players with stinking attitudes. Moyes one of the personalities that could control that.

    Would love a Poch or even Emery, however, got to be realistic about who wants this job with the state the club is currently in.
    [/QUOTE]
    Moyes has got a personality?

  352. Don’t think he will come anyway, he said he would only come if he got a long term contract and I don’t believe Everton are ready to offer him one. If he did by any chance come he would also want full control like he did before and I cant see Moshiri agreeing to that, so its a NO thank you for me.

  353. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7461420, member: 19905″]
    the original job as in at the start

    many many many years ago

    he is by nature a % football exponent. Keep it tight. Control as much as possible what the players do on the pitch. Set up to not lose and hope to grab a win. No interest in much else.

    he occasionally hit a a sweet spot with teams when it clicked and he let them loose to play actual football but as soon as we had a chance of doing something he would go back in his shell. The vast majority was defensive dullness.
    [/QUOTE]

    Football is inherently a game or % though the less you concede and the more you score you win. The vairence in that lies in the context in my opinion, take City you can play the Pep way when you can you invest 500 mill in the squad the balce the percentages in your favour. For everyone esle its about devising a nd building toward success. What Moyes did was manipulate the percentages based on resources which were minimal.

    I think the defensive football thing is a myth, id accept we were hard to beat in his early regin biut for many years with players like the Arteta, Pienaar, Baines, Cahill, Yak etc we played some really lovely effective stuff. It was balanced but more importantly it was effective. I say that to illustrate we have had two managers in Martinez and Silva who play open and expansive stuff, both regimes crashed and burned. some of the virtues you mention in your post are actually whats needed about now, the show pony stuff has failed.

    i think the Moyes type cast is quite lazy, without acknowledging the restrictions he was working while here

  354. [QUOTE=”Izzy1878, post: 7461600, member: 47766″]
    Hearing the words “This season is a right off” is becoming a bit familiar. Getting Moyes in is just embarrassing. Tim Cahill as his assistant to soften the blow is not going to work with me. What has he actually done since he left us?
    [/QUOTE]
    Got some lovely pay offs from Utd, That Spanish club and Sunderland. He’s doing ok for himself.

  355. Not particularly, no.

    But if Silva chopped, and Moyes is the candidate – I’ll obviously hope he does well and get behind him 100%.

  356. [QUOTE=”magicjuan, post: 7461555, member: 842″]
    I’d rather not if it’s all the same…

    His best sides were the ones he was forced to play through injuries and suspensions.
    [/QUOTE]
    Yes, some Managers are better when they have only one watch, they know exactly what time it is
    If they have two they’re never quite sure

  357. Don’t really want him but if it’s him he needs to be given a 2 year deal from the off.
    You can’t stabilise a club in 6 months. We would be back to square one the next season.
    Big Sam should have been given the same. We wouldn’t be here now if that happened.

  358. His press conference will be all about him and keeping Everton up with a big smug grin on his face the rat.

  359. After the psychological damage of the united gig Moyes is not the manager he used to be, and even if he was, football itself has moved on. Big risk to keep Silva, but it would be a bigger risk to get Moyes in. Reeks of desperation and backwards negativity! What would there be to look forward to?

    Keep Silva if this is all you’ve got up your sleeve, and spend the money it will cost to replace Moyes, on some better players who have the composure to play at the highest level.

    Is this what we have a director of football for? Do these people have any imagination whatsoever?

    Moyes!

    I don’t think the people running us, actually support us!

  360. [QUOTE=”magicjuan, post: 7461555, member: 842″]
    I’d rather not if it’s all the same…

    His best sides were the ones he was forced to play through injuries and suspensions.
    [/QUOTE]
    Lucky we’ve got plenty of injuries for him then

  361. Anyone who wants him needs to take a long hard look at themselves and ask the question. Do I even support Everton?

    Utter embarrassment of a choice

  362. Hearing the words “This season is a right off” is becoming a bit familiar. Getting Moyes in is just embarrassing. Tim Cahill as his assistant to soften the blow is not going to work with me. What has he actually done since he left us?

  363. I’d rather not if it’s all the same…

    His best sides were the ones he was forced to play through injuries and suspensions.

  364. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7461297, member: 32″]
    Id want him as Everton manager doing all of those things to other clubs to be honest.

    I thought he wasnt given a fair crack at Utd to be honest, but i think differently about managers and short term reigns then most, i think every manager needs three years min.
    [/QUOTE]

    the respect is gone mate. I can’t recall any former players/staff who spoke of us in such manners, yet we are offering our club to him as a platform to boast his ego once again.

  365. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7461392, member: 32″]
    It was 2013 he left, under five years ago, hardly a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Not explicitly but it was inferred, if you think he did a good job here, then i see very little reason why you wouldn’t welcome a return.

    I think it is a bit of myth that he plays defensive football to be honest, he can play some great stuff, id acknowledge if he has a poor team to work with he tries to make it solid depending on the context, like when he first came here or Sunderland and early days WHU.
    [/QUOTE]

    the original job as in at the start

    many many many years ago

    he is by nature a % football exponent. Keep it tight. Control as much as possible what the players do on the pitch. Set up to not lose and hope to grab a win. No interest in much else.

    he occasionally hit a a sweet spot with teams when it clicked and he let them loose to play actual football but as soon as we had a chance of doing something he would go back in his shell. The vast majority was defensive dullness.

  366. We want to improve as a club ,can anyone tell me how appointing him would be a sign that we are on the up.Yes I know we lost to a weakened side last night but really we could have lost to any team playing like that .

  367. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7461300, member: 19905″]
    my post didn’t mention the original job he did. Of course it was good. Many many many years ago

    neither did I say I blamed him for going to man u

    % football manager allowed full reign at a reasonably big club to play mostly defensive football and keep expectations low for 11yrs in SHOCK achievement of his goal
    [/QUOTE]

    It was 2013 he left, under five years ago, hardly a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Not explicitly but it was inferred, if you think he did a good job here, then i see very little reason why you wouldn’t welcome a return.

    I think it is a bit of myth that he plays defensive football to be honest, he can play some great stuff, id acknowledge if he has a poor team to work with he tries to make it solid depending on the context, like when he first came here or Sunderland and early days WHU.

  368. [QUOTE=”Lelouch, post: 7461332, member: 49661″]
    Do I want Moyes? No.
    Would I care if Moyes came back for 6 months to get us out of the crapper? No.
    We survived Allardyce we can survive anything.
    [/QUOTE]

    Agreed

    Sadly if we have to take Moyes for 6 months while a long term successor is found then I would reluctantly hold my nose.

    I say this. It’s not for any great love for Moyes just that things can’t get any worse right now and if Moyes can stabilise this until we’re safe then show him the door.

    long term Moyes as a solution?

    HELL NO !!!!!!!!!
    No matter what that bell Alan Brazil might think on Talk Sh*#e radio

  369. Do I want Moyes? No.
    Would I care if Moyes came back for 6 months to get us out of the crapper? No.
    We survived Allardyce we can survive anything.

  370. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7460791, member: 38674″]
    Oh you would, would you? That’s awfully bold of you, mate. Controversial.

    Tell me, mate. How you going to convince a bloke who’s 1 point off the top of the Bundesliga, flying in the Champions League, with arguably the best young squad in Europe, to come to a 18th placed Everton side with problems all over the pitch?

    Sort that last bit and we’re sound, like. I’m probably with you, I’d have Nagelsmann too.
    [/QUOTE]
    Firstly I’d triple his current salary, and let him have a say on future signings alongside Brands.
    We think nothing on lashing 30-40million on players, so why not spend big on a new manager !
    It’s worth a try surely, we’ve got nothing to lose, you don’t ask, you don’t get

  371. Dont want Moyes but I dont think were actaully after him.
    Hed be straight forward to get in as hes out of work now and clearly wants the job.
    If the board had plans for him to be manager hed already be here.
    That suggests were chasing someone else.

  372. Why does it have to be Moyes? Might as well get Pulis in or Allardyce back if we’re that desperate given they’ve never took a team down.

  373. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7461241, member: 32″]
    Nah not having any of that, we were bleak very bleak, relegation fodder every year, with the same budget he broke the glass window and didnt build a team he built a club, remarkably breaking through the glass window, qualifying for Europe and getting to the latter stages of cup competitions and a final on a shoe string. To be honest i think we would have tumbled down thel eague only for him, he did a terrific job here.

    During his time Everton were a biug club on a small club budgt, consistently had to sell our best players and he always pulled a rabbit out of a hat. I dont blame him for joining Utd, with our budget then he could do no more and we threading water, if the league champions come in for you its a no brainier after the service he gave. He was head hunted by the biggest talent spotter in the game. I appreciate what he did.

    For the life i dont understand the bad will to him, what ever your view on him coming in and his chances of success, id be quite optimistic with im if he was given a couple of seasons hes a real football manager. Maybe im getting old and people dont remember the [Poor language removed] show we were before he came, it was kind of like now all the time.

    We deserve better, look around we are in the relegation zone, we need 40 points end of and three years of consistency and continuity.
    [/QUOTE]

    my post didn’t mention the original job he did. Of course it was good. Many many many years ago

    neither did I say I blamed him for going to man u

    % football manager allowed full reign at a reasonably big club to play mostly defensive football and keep expectations low for 11yrs in SHOCK achievement of his goal

  374. [QUOTE=”Axlswhk, post: 7461260, member: 102″]
    He left us for United without a compensation.

    He tried to bully us into selling Fellaini and Baines at a ridiculously cheap price.

    He believe we are a small club and hindering the career of Fellaini.

    He thought he was too good for us.

    He had plenty of money at United and finish below us?
    [/QUOTE]

    Id want him as Everton manager doing all of those things to other clubs to be honest.

    I thought he wasnt given a fair crack at Utd to be honest, but i think differently about managers and short term reigns then most, i think every manager needs three years min.

  375. They’re all at finch farm.
    Moshri doing the Santa duties according to SSN sources.
    Marco been given grecian.

  376. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7461240, member: 1″]
    Bitter blues never forget…

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    “I definitely do but I also know that if I´d been Everton manager and Sir Alex had come asking for [URL=’https://www.grandoldteam.com/everton/leighton-baines’]Leighton Baines[/URL] and Marouane Fellaini, I´d have found it very difficult to keep them because I always felt the right thing to do was what was right for the players,” he said. Everton described their former manager´s offer for the pair as “derisory and insulting” but Moyes said: “I signed every player at Everton, so I know a lot about them. They are a great club and they are both excellent players.”

    “The transfer window is open and we can make bids and you can say ´Yes or no´, it´s as simple as that. You are allowed to bid. That´s not our choice [to make it public]. That´s up to them. You need to ask them that question.
    [/QUOTE]

    the same arrogance he showed in many an after match interview was clear in his actions and words when he went to Man U

    he thought he had finally arrived and was too stupid to realize he should’ve kept his mouth shut and got on with doing a good job before rolling out that arrogant smirk

  377. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7461083, member: 32″]
    Why are people dead set against Moyes, he was successful here over the course of his time given the context, we hit the glass ceiling due to money consistently, but pucnhed well above our weight in his time and broke through it once. Cup final etc.

    We always said imagine what he could do with money, what are the draw backs people see that are so dead against it?
    [/QUOTE]

    He left us for United without a compensation.

    He tried to bully us into selling Fellaini and Baines at a ridiculously cheap price.

    He believe we are a small club and hindering the career of Fellaini.

    He thought he was too good for us.

    He had plenty of money at United and finish below us?

  378. [QUOTE=”peteblue, post: 7461212, member: 8392″]
    the money has already been spent…..
    [/QUOTE]

    I think you are likely spot on mate!

  379. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7461187, member: 19905″]
    ffs Neil you are really stretching it

    he had 11yrs. He got one crazy season where we finished 4th …15yrs ago.

    he got to 1 cup final and did exactly what he did in every big game. Set out to not lose instead of trying to win and achieved nothing.

    he arrogantly played up the small club no money crap on a regular basis because it suited his agenda to big up his role for so long

    he made a pigs ear of his exit and the aftermath and that’s putting it politely. Quickly going from being clapped off the pitch to being despised by many.

    he proceeded to do very little with the rest of his career.

    his appointment currently will add to the utter disgust many fans have for the club

    Apart from being a reactionary fan who can’t handle a bad run or bad season without solving themselves over relegation I don’t know why anybody would actively choose to hire the above coach or be happy with him even for a few months

    bringing back Rooney. Sacking Koeman with no plan. Hiring allardyce. Big money on players like Keane and Bolasie. And now this….?!

    we deserve much better. And much better doesn’t have to mean an A list coach and star players. Just give us a decent appointment and common sense recruitment and steady progress.
    [/QUOTE]

    Nah not having any of that, we were bleak very bleak, relegation fodder every year, with the same budget he broke the glass window and didnt build a team he built a club, remarkably breaking through the glass window, qualifying for Europe and getting to the latter stages of cup competitions and a final on a shoe string. To be honest i think we would have tumbled down thel eague only for him, he did a terrific job here.

    During his time Everton were a biug club on a small club budgt, consistently had to sell our best players and he always pulled a rabbit out of a hat. I dont blame him for joining Utd, with our budget then he could do no more and we threading water, if the league champions come in for you its a no brainier after the service he gave. He was head hunted by the biggest talent spotter in the game. I appreciate what he did.

    For the life i dont understand the bad will to him, what ever your view on him coming in and his chances of success, id be quite optimistic with im if he was given a couple of seasons hes a real football manager. Maybe im getting old and people dont remember the shit show we were before he came, it was kind of like now all the time.

    We deserve better, look around we are in the relegation zone, we need 40 points end of and three years of consistency and continuity.

  380. Bitter blues never forget…

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    “I definitely do but I also know that if I´d been Everton manager and Sir Alex had come asking for [URL=’https://www.grandoldteam.com/everton/leighton-baines’]Leighton Baines[/URL] and Marouane Fellaini, I´d have found it very difficult to keep them because I always felt the right thing to do was what was right for the players,” he said. Everton described their former manager´s offer for the pair as “derisory and insulting” but Moyes said: “I signed every player at Everton, so I know a lot about them. They are a great club and they are both excellent players.”

    “The transfer window is open and we can make bids and you can say ´Yes or no´, it´s as simple as that. You are allowed to bid. That´s not our choice [to make it public]. That´s up to them. You need to ask them that question.

  381. [QUOTE=”Grinch, post: 7461142, member: 52507″]
    Will take him back only until the end of the season.
    [/QUOTE]

    This

  382. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7461094, member: 52747″]
    [B]Because we’re supposed to be building something here[/B]. What is the message to the world and our supporters if we hire a guy who did nowt last time he was here, rubbished on the way out after flirting with MU for months, talked us down then failed everywhere before sitting at home for nearly 2 years?

    Why is he even looked on as an improvement to what we have now?

    Then what? At the end of the season he’s gone and all his backroom staff and the players are left adjusting to a 3rd, 4th or even 5th set of instructions?
    [/QUOTE]

    The Rocky Horror Show?

  383. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7461083, member: 32″]
    Why are people dead set against Moyes, he was successful here over the course of his time given the context, we hit the glass ceiling due to money consistently, but pucnhed well above our weight in his time and broke through it once. Cup final etc.

    We always said imagine what he could do with money, what are the draw backs people see that are so dead against it?
    [/QUOTE]

    the money has already been spent…..

  384. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7461187, member: 19905″]
    ffs Neil you are really stretching it

    he had 11yrs. He got one crazy season where we finished 4th …15yrs ago.

    he got to 1 cup final and did exactly what he did in every big game. Set out to not lose instead of trying to win and achieved nothing.

    he arrogantly played up the small club no money crap on a regular basis because it suited his agenda to big up his role for so long

    he made a pigs ear of his exit and the aftermath and that’s putting it politely. Quickly going from being clapped off the pitch to being despised by many.

    he proceeded to do very little with the rest of his career.

    his appointment currently will add to the utter disgust many fans have for the club

    Apart from being a reactionary fan who can’t handle a bad run or bad season without solving themselves over relegation I don’t know why anybody would actively choose to hire the above coach or be happy with him even for a few months

    bringing back Rooney. Sacking Koeman with no plan. Hiring allardyce. Big money on players like Keane and Bolasie. And now this….?!

    we deserve much better. And much better doesn’t have to mean an A list coach and star players. Just give us a decent appointment and common sense recruitment and steady progress.
    [/QUOTE]

    Preach!

  385. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7461026, member: 8080″]
    Please read my quote thoroughly….
    [/QUOTE]
    I did, hence my question

  386. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7461136, member: 32″]
    Hes is a manager who built us from nothing – an annual relegation team to Champions League qualifiers and competing in cup finals, with no money. Isnt that what we are looking for exactly in a manager someone to take us to the CL and compete for trophies. This time he has money.
    [/QUOTE]

    ffs Neil you are really stretching it

    he had 11yrs. He got one crazy season where we finished 4th …15yrs ago.

    he got to 1 cup final and did exactly what he did in every big game. Set out to not lose instead of trying to win and achieved nothing.

    he arrogantly played up the small club no money crap on a regular basis because it suited his agenda to big up his role for so long

    he made a pigs ear of his exit and the aftermath and that’s putting it politely. Quickly going from being clapped off the pitch to being despised by many.

    he proceeded to do very little with the rest of his career.

    his appointment currently will add to the utter disgust many fans have for the club

    Apart from being a reactionary fan who can’t handle a bad run or bad season without soiling themselves over relegation I don’t know why anybody would actively choose to hire the above coach or be happy with him even for a few months

    bringing back Rooney. Sacking Koeman with no plan. Hiring allardyce. Big money on players like Keane and Bolasie. And now this….?!

    we deserve much better. And much better doesn’t have to mean an A list coach and star players. Just give us a decent appointment and common sense recruitment and steady progress.

  387. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7461094, member: 52747″]
    Because we’re supposed to be building something here. What is the message to the world and our supporters if we hire a guy who did nowt last time he was here, rubbished on the way out after flirting with MU for months, talked us down then failed everywhere before sitting at home for nearly 2 years?

    Why is he even looked on as an improvement to what we have now?

    Then what? At the end of the season he’s gone and all his backroom staff and the players are left adjusting to a 3rd, 4th or even 5th set of instructions?
    [/QUOTE]

    Hes is a manager who built us from nothing – an annual relegation team to Champions League qualifiers and competing in cup finals, with no money. Isnt that what we are looking for exactly in a manager someone to take us to the CL and compete for trophies. This time he has money.

  388. [QUOTE=”Alanbileysfeathercut, post: 7461086, member: 35774″]
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    [MEDIA=youtube]Nu_xTC5Gc2U[/MEDIA]

    Its a no from me…

  389. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7461083, member: 32″]
    Why are people dead set against Moyes, he was successful here over the course of his time given the context, we hit the glass ceiling due to money consistently in his time and broke through it once. Cup final etc.

    [/QUOTE]

    Because we’re supposed to be building something here. What is the message to the world and our supporters if we hire a guy who did nowt last time he was here, rubbished on the way out after flirting with MU for months, talked us down then failed everywhere before sitting at home for nearly 2 years?

    Why is he even looked on as an improvement to what we have now?

    Then what? At the end of the season he’s gone and all his backroom staff and the players are left adjusting to a 3rd, 4th or even 5th set of instructions?

  390. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7461083, member: 32″]
    Why are people dead set against Moyes, he was successful here over the course of his time given the context, we hit the glass ceiling due to money consistently, but pucnhed well above our weight in his time and broke through it once. Cup final etc.

    We always said imagine what he could do with money, what are[/QUOTE]

  391. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7460996, member: 8080″]
    Put this picture there instead….
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  392. Why are people dead set against Moyes, he was successful here over the course of his time given the context, we hit the glass ceiling due to money consistently, but pucnhed well above our weight in his time and broke through it once. Cup final etc.

    We always said imagine what he could do with money, what are the draw backs people see that are so dead against it?

  393. [QUOTE=”blue1948, post: 7461041, member: 25770″]
    I will be blue until I die but if he is coming back it is the worst day of my life football wise and leaves me so sad I cannot express it .We are a joke of a club if he comes back.
    It is liked your best mate sh*****g your missus on your wedding day and then buying him a car.
    [/QUOTE]
    lol

  394. I will be blue until I die but if he is coming back it is the worst day of my life football wise and leaves me so sad I cannot express it .We are a joke of a club if he comes back.
    It is liked your best mate sh*****g your missus on your wedding day and then buying him a car.

  395. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7461026, member: 8080″]
    Please read my quote thoroughly….
    [/QUOTE]

    There is literally not one realistic shout in world football better than serial failure and classless weasel David Moyes?

  396. [QUOTE=”bol-uk, post: 7461008, member: 11150″]
    So Moyes is the best available manager in the world at this moment?
    [/QUOTE]

    Please read my quote thoroughly….

  397. [QUOTE=”marcus, post: 7460938, member: 8080″]
    Yes from me…..Moyes is our best option….

    Other shouts are either unrealistic or a worse option….
    [/QUOTE]

    So Moyes is the best available manager in the world at this moment?

  398. The picture of Moyes with Man utd players at the front of the poll shows a leaning of bias towards the no vote….

  399. [QUOTE=”bitter-no-better, post: 7460657, member: 23950″]
    But we have Boa Morte who has had 4 jobs in 2 years because he is really pulling up trees.
    [/QUOTE]
    Not sure that’s relevant mate.

  400. [QUOTE=”JLW, post: 7460402, member: 38896″]
    He fits into a 2019 Everton like I fit into a 1980s school uniform
    [/QUOTE]

    With crowbar a lot of deep breathing and some baby oil! lol

  401. Yes from me…..Moyes is our best option….

    Other shouts are either unrealistic or a worse option….

  402. [QUOTE=”EFC-FCN, post: 7460773, member: 37536″]
    I’d take a chance with Julian Nagelsmann, the 32 year old manager of Red Bull Leipzig, who’s taken them from nowhere to 2nd in the Bundesliga, and top of their Champions league table, above Benfica, Lyon, and Zenit.
    I’ll probably get slaughtered for suggesting him, but he’s going places this fella !
    [/QUOTE]

    Oh you would, would you? That’s awfully bold of you, mate. Controversial.

    Tell me, mate. How you going to convince a bloke who’s 1 point off the top of the Bundesliga, flying in the Champions League, with arguably the best young squad in Europe, to come to a 18th placed Everton side with problems all over the pitch?

    Sort that last bit and we’re sound, like. I’m probably with you, I’d have Nagelsmann too.

  403. [QUOTE=”EFC-FCN, post: 7460773, member: 37536″]
    I’d take a chance with Julian Nagelsmann, the 32 year old manager of Red Bull Leipzig, who’s taken them from nowhere to 2nd in the Bundesliga, and top of their Champions league table, above Benfica, Lyon, and Zenit.
    I’ll probably get slaughtered for suggesting him, but he’s going places this fella !
    [/QUOTE]

    he is already at a place

    a better place

    he’ll not be leaving that to coming to 18th place mulling over moyes Everton

  404. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7460735, member: 38674″]
    Come on mate, that wasn’t an easy job.

    It was a poisoned chalice at United and everyone knew it. Everyone said before he even went there that the person who would succeed at United would be the person after the person who replaced Fergie. And that was basically how it was. Van Gaal, one of the best coaches in the history of the game, did better but didn’t do a whole lot better than Moyes did. Mourinho and Solskjaer haven’t fared much better either. Everyone knew Moyes had a big re-build job at United. Half the 1st team were in their 30’s when he took over. It’s not like he walked in to ready-made champions. There are far bigger problems at Manchester United that he had to contend with, beyond just the playing staff – and it’s the same problems those subsequent managers have faced and haven’t been able to overcome either.

    Most United legends like Neville, Beckham, Law and even Ferguson were totally against sacking him and believed he deserved more time. He got 10 months in a very difficult job, to try and recycle and rebuild, it was never going to happen overnight.
    [/QUOTE]
    When all said and done he took a title winning squad from 1st to 7th. Yes a rebuild was going to be needed over the ensuing years but they should never have dropped so many league positions.

  405. I’d take a chance with Julian Nagelsmann, the 32 year old manager of Red Bull Leipzig, who’s taken them from nowhere to 2nd in the Bundesliga, and top of their Champions league table, above Benfica, Lyon, and Zenit.
    I’ll probably get slaughtered for suggesting him, but he’s going places this fella !

  406. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7460735, member: 38674″]
    Come on mate, that wasn’t an easy job.

    It was a poisoned chalice at United and everyone knew it. Everyone said before he even went there that the person who would succeed at United would be the person after the person who replaced Fergie. And that was basically how it was. Van Gaal, one of the best coaches in the history of the game, did better but didn’t do a whole lot better than Moyes did. Everyone knew he had a re-build job at United. Half the 1st team were in their 30’s when he took over. It’s not like he walked in to ready-made champions.

    Most United legends like Neville, Beckham, Law and even Ferguson were totally against sacking him and believed he deserved more time. He got 10 months in a very difficult job, to try and recycle and rebuild, it was never going to happen overnight.
    [/QUOTE]

    He walked into a team of current champions with a winning culture and the funds and cache to target whoever they wanted. So in the wonderful world of football with the backing of one of the most famous clubs in the world, he went out and signed Fellaini, Juan Mata and 2 other blokes who sank without trace. So, if you’re saying he had a rebuilding job on, I agree, but he knew he was starting that job for ages and failed to strengthen.

    He got rid of ALL the backroom staff, replacing them with his own, thus ripping out the culture of the club which is still impacting them today.

    Then he set about trying to make a team of aging thoroughbreds play like a buch of midtable cloggers.

  407. [QUOTE=”funkygibson, post: 7460673, member: 14933″]
    If blue bill wasn’t at the club how many of us think brands Moshiri ryazantsev would be round the table suggesting Moyes is the right man to put in charge?
    [/QUOTE]

    They would be suggesting Daniel Farke or someone looking at past appointments.

  408. [QUOTE=”Papa Shango, post: 7460730, member: 9453″]
    He got a guard of honour in his last game. What more does he want?
    [/QUOTE]
    Not sure he wants anything mate.

  409. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7460684, member: 52747″]
    Just remind me of the situation at United when he took over…
    [/QUOTE]

    Come on mate, that wasn’t an easy job.

    It was a poisoned chalice at United and everyone knew it. Everyone said before he even went there that the person who would succeed at United would be the person after the person who replaced Fergie. And that was basically how it was. Van Gaal, one of the best coaches in the history of the game, did better but didn’t do a whole lot better than Moyes did. Mourinho and Solskjaer haven’t fared much better either. Everyone knew Moyes had a big re-build job at United. Half the 1st team were in their 30’s when he took over. It’s not like he walked in to ready-made champions. There are far bigger problems at Manchester United that he had to contend with, beyond just the playing staff – and it’s the same problems those subsequent managers have faced and haven’t been able to overcome either.

    Most United legends like Neville, Beckham, Law and even Ferguson were totally against sacking him and believed he deserved more time. He got 10 months in a very difficult job, to try and recycle and rebuild, it was never going to happen overnight.

  410. [QUOTE=”funkygibson, post: 7460680, member: 14933″]
    Yes looking forward to us being as solid as Sunderland where in his time there
    [/QUOTE]
    I think we have much better players than Sunderland did, although having watched our attempts to defend last night, maybe not! At the end of the day, who are going to get instead of Moyes? Would you stick with Silva?

  411. [QUOTE=”Ihaters, post: 7460655, member: 9461″]
    Not for me.

    Though I appreciate the work he did in turning our club around, I think both him and Everton have gone backwards since he left.
    I think he has regressed potentially even more than we have, and the combination of two downward spiralling entities seems unlikely to have a positive outcome.

    That being said, Moyes did a really good job for us and I feel deserves a lot more credit than he gets, but that’s just my opinion.
    [/QUOTE]

    He got a guard of honour in his last game. What more does he want?

  412. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7460659, member: 38674″]
    I think context is important too. Silva has a better win % here than Moyes did at West Ham but Silva has had millions to spend, where Moyes took over West Ham in the relegation zone and kept them up, they quite like him there.

    At Sociedad, he took over a team 2 points off the relegation zone, that had lost 5 of it’s last 7 and had just sold it’s best player (Griezmann) and again, steered them to safety, beating Barcelona in the process.

    Sunderland and United have been crisis clubs for more managers than just Moyes.
    [/QUOTE]
    For context, there would probably be his last 4 teams, but I guess Everton’s very good win/draw/loss record would skew the results in Moyes favour 🙂

  413. [QUOTE=”funkygibson, post: 7460673, member: 14933″]
    If blue bill wasn’t at the club how many of us think brands Moshiri ryazantsev would be round the table suggesting Moyes is the right man to put in charge?
    [/QUOTE]
    Brands Moshiri and Ryantsev would be giving Silva more time because they havent got any other options.

  414. [QUOTE=”funkygibson, post: 7460673, member: 14933″]
    If blue bill wasn’t at the club how many of us think brands Moshiri ryazantsev would be round the table suggesting Moyes is the right man to put in charge?
    [/QUOTE]
    And that’s the absolutely Scary scenario we are faced with

  415. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7460659, member: 38674″]

    Sunderland and United have been crisis clubs for more managers than just Moyes.
    [/QUOTE]

    Just remind me of the situation at United when he took over…

  416. [QUOTE=”Cmonefcsortitout!, post: 7460672, member: 50933″]
    Moyes is seen as a bit of a has been. However, at this point, we need someone who can make us solid. We defended like kids last night and I have little doubt that Moyes would get us better organised than Marco ever has. With that in mind, at this point, I welcome him back. It’s sucks that he tried to take players to United with him, but I can get over that if it means we survive this season. The way we are going, we could get relegated with Marco, he has to go. (A month ago!) Who else can we get that would want to come here right now?! I have faith that Moyes would get us into mid table and could progress well beyond that, if he had the time and £ that Marco has had.
    [/QUOTE]
    Yes looking forward to us being as solid as Sunderland where in his time there

  417. [QUOTE=”ashwuk76, post: 7460656, member: 26108″]
    “Everton have always held a special place in my heart and it was such a wretch to leave, now I have come back to my spiritual home to get this great club back where it belongs…” That will be the first thing he says…
    [/QUOTE]
    Straight after kenwright unveiling the mural of moyes

  418. If blue bill wasn’t at the club how many of us think brands Moshiri ryazantsev would be round the table suggesting Moyes is the right man to put in charge?

  419. Moyes is seen as a bit of a has been. However, at this point, we need someone who can make us solid. We defended like kids last night and I have little doubt that Moyes would get us better organised than Marco ever has. With that in mind, at this point, I welcome him back. It’s sucks that he tried to take players to United with him, but I can get over that if it means we survive this season. The way we are going, we could get relegated with Marco, he has to go. (A month ago!) Who else can we get that would want to come here right now?! I have faith that Moyes would get us into mid table and could progress well beyond that, if he had the time and £ that Marco has had.

  420. [QUOTE=”bitter-no-better, post: 7460579, member: 23950″]
    Maybe if you add in Lose % you see a different picture. Its win or lose with Silva.

    Wolves sit 5th having won 1 more game than us.

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    I think context is important too. Silva has a better win % here than Moyes did at West Ham but Silva has had millions to spend, where Moyes took over West Ham in the relegation zone and kept them up, they quite like him there.

    At Sociedad, he took over a team 2 points off the relegation zone, that had lost 5 of it’s last 7 and had just sold it’s best player (Griezmann) and again, steered them to safety, beating Barcelona in the process.

    Sunderland and United have been crisis clubs for more managers than just Moyes.

  421. [QUOTE=”bluesb1970, post: 7460621, member: 309″]
    No to DM and no to Tim Cahill. Hasn’t got the coaching experience to help us in this mess.
    [/QUOTE]
    But we have Boa Morte who has had 4 jobs in 2 years because he is really pulling up trees.

  422. “Everton have always held a special place in my heart and it was such a wretch to leave, now I have come back to my spiritual home to get this great club back where it belongs…” That will be the first thing he says…

  423. Not for me.

    Though I appreciate the work he did in turning our club around, I think both him and Everton have gone backwards since he left.
    I think he has regressed potentially even more than we have, and the combination of two downward spiralling entities seems unlikely to have a positive outcome.

    That being said, Moyes did a really good job for us and I feel deserves a lot more credit than he gets, but that’s just my opinion.

  424. Yea, yes, yes. Let’s get back that grit and determination to play for 90mins and put a full shift in

  425. [QUOTE=”Gwladysstreetlad, post: 7460440, member: 30862″]
    You know, in a horrible twisted way I’ll be glad if its come down to a straight choice between Moyes and Silva a manager. For far to long some of our fans have blindly defended the morons who run us and shouted down those of us who dared to criticise Moshiri, Kenwright and the rest of the stupid squad. Now the power’s that be at Goodison have been completely exposed for the doddering old fools they are. They’re like the wizard of Oz after the curtain has been pulled away and all you can see is a collection of old idiots looking wide eyed and confused as they desperately scramble to fix a situation that’s all of their own making.
    [/QUOTE]
    Spot on. Absolutely reeks of Kenright this. The sooner that charlatan is ran Out of Everton, the better.

  426. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7460492, member: 1″]
    [MEDIA=twitter]1202555221580357632[/MEDIA]
    [/QUOTE]
    Maybe if you add in Lose % you see a different picture. Its win or lose with Silva.

    Wolves sit 5th having won 1 more game than us.

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  427. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7460535, member: 52747″]
    21 years ago, a friend of mine applied for the job after Kendall’s last tenure. He included his Champ Man CV by way of supporting evidence. The club sent him a nice letter, explaining they were looking for somebody with more tangible achievements. He said he wasn’t bothered they didn’t interview him, just that they picked Walter Smith ahead of him.

    If Moyes gets this, I’ll be regretting not sending my letter.
    [/QUOTE]
    That’s a good post mate.

  428. 21 years ago, a friend of mine applied for the job after Kendall’s last tenure. He included his Champ Man CV by way of supporting evidence. The club sent him a nice letter, explaining they were looking for somebody with more tangible achievements. He said he wasn’t bothered they didn’t interview him, just that they picked Walter Smith ahead of him.

    If Moyes gets this, I’ll be regretting not sending my letter.

  429. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7460475, member: 1″]
    Won’t happen mate. He’s on record as saying he would want a long deal and unlike Allardyce who was always leaving, he’d be on a trial.

    If he replicated what Allardyce did, he’d get a 5 year deal.

    Kenwright factor.
    [/QUOTE]

    Greg O’Keefe said on 5live before the Leicester game Moyes does not want interim period role with us. If he does a good job he wants to be rewarded with a longer deal.

  430. [QUOTE=”bitter-no-better, post: 7460487, member: 23950″]
    7th 17th 4th 11th 6th 5th 5th 8th 7th 7th 6th Cup final. Only ever crack at champions league. Really poor that when we did not have a pot to P in.
    [/QUOTE]
    In a much less competitive league with one of the largest wage bills.
    Times moved on in 10 years and he’s not moved with it

  431. [QUOTE=”Joey66, post: 7460490, member: 1486″]
    Yes posting the best midfielder we ever had =Bally….. He would have kicked arpses last night he was a sore loser……
    [/QUOTE]
    Yes mate, unfortunately we have nice losers wearing the badge

  432. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7460492, member: 1″]
    [MEDIA=twitter]1202555221580357632[/MEDIA]
    [/QUOTE]
    That’s true mate.

  433. [QUOTE=”bitter-no-better, post: 7460487, member: 23950″]
    7th 17th 4th 11th 6th 5th 5th 8th 7th 7th 6th Cup final. Only ever crack at champions league. Really poor that when we did not have a pot to P in.
    [/QUOTE]

    [MEDIA=twitter]1202555221580357632[/MEDIA]

  434. [QUOTE=”JLW, post: 7460466, member: 38896″]
    All hell is breaking loose and [USER=1486]@Joey66[/USER] is posting in the old pictures thread lollol
    [/QUOTE]
    Yes posting the best midfielder we ever had =Bally….. He would have kicked arpses last night he was a sore loser……

  435. 7th 17th 4th 11th 6th 5th 5th 8th 7th 7th 6th Cup final. Only ever crack at champions league. Really poor that when we did not have a pot to P in.

  436. If between Moshiri , Brands and the rest of the board the only solution to our current malaise is the appointment of Gollum and an unqualified Australian flagpuncher, then that is an admission of abject failure.
    If this is to become fact , my anger will be directed towards the board and I would prefer that they considered relinquishing ownership of our club and moving on.
    Brands should resign along with Silva.

  437. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7460475, member: 1″]
    Won’t happen mate. He’s on record as saying he would want a long deal and unlike Allardyce who was always leaving, he’d be on a trial.

    If he replicated what Allardyce did, he’d get a 5 year deal.

    Kenwright factor.
    [/QUOTE]
    Worrying times

  438. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7460469, member: 38674″]
    Rodgers is a top manager. Did very well at Swansea. Did very well at Liverpool and was a slip away from winning the title. Did very well at Celtic and broke records there. Now doing great stuff at Leicester. Top manager, foolish to think otherwise.

    There’s a ‘good’, potentially ‘top’, manager down on the south coast…..
    [/QUOTE]
    He could become a top top manager but he’s not there yet! But someone similar style and stature in the game could be attainable

  439. [QUOTE=”stamullenblue, post: 7460456, member: 28048″]
    Sorry but I only mean Moyes as interim until end of season.
    [/QUOTE]

    Won’t happen mate. He’s on record as saying he would want a long deal and unlike Allardyce who was always leaving, he’d be on a trial.

    If he replicated what Allardyce did, he’d get a 5 year deal.

    Kenwright factor.

  440. [QUOTE=”jaycee, post: 7460470, member: 8176″]
    Theres more than [B]Moist [/B]and Silva in the world of football,people say we have no choice,3 names I wouldnt particularly want but have been mentioned a few times
    Benetiz- went to Newcastle when they were in a worse position than us
    Wolves manager- Championship side,worse position than us
    Leeds manager,championship worse than us,theres 3 names without even thinking,Im not saying they would come running here but they are examples of managers that are around
    [/QUOTE]
    Announce Moist!

  441. [QUOTE=”technojoe, post: 7460428, member: 11834″]
    He is! but what choice do we have now, its not the ideal choice but the safest im afraid.
    [/QUOTE]
    Theres more than Moist and Silva in the world of football,people say we have no choice,3 names I wouldnt particularly want but have been mentioned a few times
    Benetiz- went to Newcastle when they were in a worse position than us
    Wolves manager- Championship side,worse position than us
    Leeds manager,championship worse than us,theres 3 names without even thinking,Im not saying they would come running here but they are examples of managers that are around

  442. [QUOTE=”JLW, post: 7460452, member: 38896″]
    You don’t need a top manager you need a good manager! Look at Rodgers at Leicester he’s good but nowhere near the Klopp/Pep quality
    [/QUOTE]

    Rodgers is a top manager. Did very well at Swansea. Did very well at Liverpool and was a slip away from winning the title. Did very well at Celtic and broke records there. Now doing great stuff at Leicester. Top manager, foolish to think otherwise.

    There’s a ‘good’, potentially ‘top’, manager down on the south coast…..

  443. [QUOTE=”sageyefc, post: 7460461, member: 19618″]
    Questionable
    [/QUOTE]
    deffo! but what the heck else is this train wreck of a club gonna do!?

  444. [QUOTE=”technojoe, post: 7460428, member: 11834″]
    He is! but what choice do we have now, its not the ideal choice [B]but the safest im afraid.[/B]
    [/QUOTE]
    Questionable

  445. [QUOTE=”Pabbers, post: 7460447, member: 6828″]
    Nobody knows what the right answer is.

    only a handfull of clubs in world football are happy with the manager they have….its so hard to get it right.
    [/QUOTE]
    Nope but I know what the wrong answer is……Moyes

  446. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7460423, member: 1″]
    Silva for me (and I’ve wanted him gone since Millwall).

    Have to thing long term.

    Moyes won’t be here interim – when we replace Silva, lets get a manager who is capable of winning.

    Moyes isn’t.
    [/QUOTE]
    Sorry but I only mean Moyes as interim until end of season.

  447. [QUOTE=”BNJ1878, post: 7460393, member: 7933″]
    No, but I see your point.

    I’m obviously bitterly disappointed at the quality of our squad when you consider the money spent. However:

    Name for me the terrible Silva/Brands buys.

    You could make a case that Delph could be classed as terrible, but he was obviously ‘experienced squad cover.’

    [B]The rest of the squad are thanks to the lottery winning scattergun approach of Koeman/BFS.[/B]
    [/QUOTE]

    Absolutely 100% agree, the end of the Martinez era (Alcaraz, Niasse etc) and the subsequent absolutely diabolical approach to transfers under the Kenwright/Koeman/Walsh era continues to cost us big time!

  448. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7460421, member: 38674″]
    No top manager is going to come near us. We need to all understand that right now. Unless the board chucks a sizeable amount of cash at them and gives them a huge budget in January, nobody would be remotely interested.

    And how likely is it that Mosh will give Brands yet more money to squander?
    [/QUOTE]
    You don’t need a top manager you need a good manager! Look at Rodgers at Leicester he’s good but nowhere near the Klopp/Pep quality

  449. Nobody knows what the right answer is.

    only a handfull of clubs in world football are happy with the manager they have….its so hard to get it right.

  450. We all know he’ll be given a short term contract, he’ll keep us up and then he’ll be rewarded with a 4 yr deal. Standard Everton practice, small club mentality from the board

  451. You know, in a horrible twisted way I’ll be glad if its come down to a straight choice between Moyes and Silva a manager. For far to long some of our fans have blindly defended the morons who run us and shouted down those of us who dared to criticise Moshiri, Kenwright and the rest of the stupid squad. Now the power’s that be at Goodison have been completely exposed for the doddering old fools they are. They’re like the wizard of Oz after the curtain has been pulled away and all you can see is a collection of old idiots looking wide eyed and confused as they desperately scramble to fix a situation that’s all of their own making.

  452. I bet the people who want Moyes back are the same people voting for Boris Johnson because he’ll get Brexit done and they don’t like Jeremy Corbyn.

  453. [QUOTE=”stamullenblue, post: 7460425, member: 28048″]
    And he has really brought that fine record with him to Everton I don’t want Moyes anymore than anybody else on here but if we keep silva we will just keep loosing … we are in trouble here and need help. Not exactly a queue of other options lining up. Action is needed
    [/QUOTE]
    The recent evidence also points to us continuing to lose under Moyes though

  454. [QUOTE=”LocalNative, post: 7460054, member: 16917″]
    Not really.

    Saying that, don#t understand all the animosity here. If he comes in and steadies the ship like Allardyce done and we restart next Summer i’d be fine with that.
    [/QUOTE]

    If he comes in he will not be leaving next summer.

  455. [QUOTE=”jaycee, post: 7460417, member: 8176″]
    How does he get the club? He gets us that much he held talks with Man U while managing us,tried to get our best players then took a swipe at the fans,plus hes a prick
    [/QUOTE]
    He is! but what choice do we have now, its not the ideal choice but the safest im afraid.

  456. [QUOTE=”sageyefc, post: 7460396, member: 19618″]
    Based on what? Even at hull and Watford silva had better win ratios than what Moyes did at any of his last 3 jobs
    [/QUOTE]
    And he has really brought that fine record with him to Everton I don’t want Moyes anymore than anybody else on here but if we keep silva we will just keep loosing … we are in trouble here and need help. Not exactly a queue of other options lining up. Action is needed

  457. [QUOTE=”stamullenblue, post: 7460373, member: 28048″]
    Straight choice Moyes or silva and Moyes wins every time for me mate
    [/QUOTE]

    Silva for me (and I’ve wanted him gone since Millwall).

    Have to thing long term.

    Moyes won’t be here interim – when we replace Silva, lets get a manager who is capable of winning.

    Moyes isn’t.

  458. [QUOTE=”LocalNative, post: 7460054, member: 16917″]
    Would love a Poch or even Emery, however, got to be realistic about who wants this job with the state the club is currently in.
    [/QUOTE]

    No top manager is going to come near us. We need to all understand that right now. Unless the board chucks a sizeable amount of cash at them and gives them a huge budget in January, nobody would be remotely interested.

    And how likely is it that Mosh will give Brands yet more money to squander?

  459. [QUOTE=”Keiran, post: 7460411, member: 38674″]
    Moyes had a better win ratio at United than he did at Everton, where did he do the better job?
    [/QUOTE]
    No surprise when you take over the best team in the country and reigning champions

  460. [QUOTE=”technojoe, post: 7460318, member: 11834″]
    I hear you! but Silva is guff, at least moyes gets the club.
    [/QUOTE]
    How does he get the club? He gets us that much he held talks with Man U while managing us,tried to get our best players then took a swipe at the fans,plus hes a prick

  461. All these fans even suggesting Moyes, it’s like these fans only going to the local labour club on a dominoes night and looking for a Girlfriend, “there is not much choice here is the”

    Get you head out of your ar&es and go to a different town city country, plenty of fish in the sea.

  462. [QUOTE=”sageyefc, post: 7460396, member: 19618″]
    Based on what? Even at hull and Watford silva had better win ratios than what Moyes did at any of his last 3 jobs
    [/QUOTE]

    Moyes had a better win ratio at United than he did at Everton, where did he do the better job?

  463. [QUOTE=”Disgruntledgoat, post: 7460400, member: 52747″]
    Why is this important? If he get’s the club, then he’s part of the issue that has stripped us of all ambition over the last 20 years. In fact he was manager for more than half of that.

    Get somebody who doesn’t get the club and demands more.
    [/QUOTE]
    Yeah totally agree! but who the feck would come now?? I say interim manager then a future coach in summer.

  464. [QUOTE=”LocalNative, post: 7460054, member: 16917″]
    Not really.

    Saying that, don#t understand all the animosity here. If he comes in and steadies the ship like Allardyce done and we restart next Summer i’d be fine with that. Not sure which manager exotic, foreign manager people want to throw into a relegation dogfight with a bunch of players with stinking attitudes. Moyes one of the personalities that could control that.

    Would love a Poch or even Emery, however, got to be realistic about who wants this job with the state the club is currently in.
    [/QUOTE]

    Agree with you 100% mate

  465. [QUOTE=”Neiler, post: 7460382, member: 32″]
    Id take him back definitely. Id be a big Davey fan.

    Id have a few reservations on how he fits into Everton 2019 though.
    [/QUOTE]
    He fits into a 2019 Everton like I fit into a 1980s school uniform

  466. [QUOTE=”technojoe, post: 7460318, member: 11834″]
    I hear you! but Silva is guff, at least moyes gets the club.
    [/QUOTE]

    Why is this important? If he get’s the club, then he’s part of the issue that has stripped us of all ambition over the last 20 years. In fact he was manager for more than half of that.

    Get somebody who doesn’t get the club and demands more.

  467. [QUOTE=”stamullenblue, post: 7460373, member: 28048″]
    Straight choice Moyes or silva and Moyes wins every time for me mate
    [/QUOTE]
    Based on what? Even at hull and Watford silva had better win ratios than what Moyes did at any of his last 3 jobs

  468. [QUOTE=”bcblue1878, post: 7460343, member: 13981″]
    Presumably that’s deliberately worded like that to include the vast majority of the starting 11 last night as well?
    [/QUOTE]
    No, but I see your point.

    I’m obviously bitterly disappointed at the quality of our squad when you consider the money spent. However:

    Name for me the terrible Silva/Brands buys.

    You could make a case that Delph could be classed as terrible, but he was obviously ‘experienced squad cover.’

    The rest of the squad are thanks to the lottery winning scattergun approach of Koeman/BFS.

  469. Id take him back definitely. Id be a big Davey fan.

    Id have a few reservations on how he fits into Everton 2019 though.

  470. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7460368, member: 1″]
    We don’t.

    It’s a very simple poll, really.
    [/QUOTE]
    Straight choice Moyes or silva and Moyes wins every time for me mate

  471. [QUOTE=”stamullenblue, post: 7460075, member: 28048″]
    You need a no choice option as well. Nobody really wants Moyes back but he’s a better option than silva
    [/QUOTE]

    We don’t.

    It’s a very simple poll, really.

  472. [QUOTE=”Rudolf Hucker, post: 7460006, member: 40648″]
    Not if he was the last manager on the planet!

    NO

    If he is brought back I’m finished with Everton & football.
    [/QUOTE]
    This

  473. [QUOTE=”BNJ1878, post: 7460061, member: 7933″]
    You are Bill Kenwright and I claim my 5 pounds prize for guessing.

    Bill needs running over, and then[B] EVERY NON-PLAYING EMPLOYEE[/B] needs to re-interview for the job they are doing.

    Bollocks to sentiment, if you are not fit for the task, get rid.

    Tim Cahill. Christ.
    [/QUOTE]

    Presumably that’s deliberately worded like that to include the vast majority of the starting 11 last night as well?

  474. [QUOTE=”BNJ1878, post: 7460132, member: 7933″]
    All of it.

    Moyes this, Moyes that.

    If he had stayed at (for example) Southampton for 11 years, did essentially nothing there, and was then:

    Fired from UTD in quick time
    Fired from Spain
    Took Sunderland down
    Fired by West Ham

    You would be livid if he was linked to the job.

    What makes you think for one second getting him back and pairing him with a former player will be a winning combination?

    As others have said, I would HONESTLY sooner stick with Silva.
    [/QUOTE]
    I hear you! but Silva is guff, at least moyes gets the club.

  475. Be a great laugh if Moyes first presser turned into a riot as a result of him grinning away saying [B]”remember, I know how Everton works”[/B]

    The charlatans in charge have been masquerading under the name “Everton” for few decades and have finally produced some weird non-entity at odds with the majesty that once surrounded such an illustrious name. A Moyes appointment would be tacit confirmation that Brands is either a fraud or has no currency at the club. Not that he will worry doubtless he lives off a top expense accountant and banks every penny of his wages.

    I have nothing but contempt for this spineless parasitic creature that feeds off the historic, unwavering loyalty of fans and pretends to be “Everton”

  476. Stuck with Moyes
    stuck with Moyes
    man united
    playing football the negative way

    How have we gone from belting that out while winning at old Trafford to bringing this clown back in while in the relegation zone.

    This isn’t Silva’s fault it’s 100% on the board

  477. [QUOTE=”blueconverse, post: 7460232, member: 43224″]
    That was my only positive and you just ruined it. Hope you step on a lego.
    [/QUOTE]

    That would actually improve my morning

  478. [QUOTE=”orly, post: 7460221, member: 16002″]
    ? Picked him as a kid for Sunderland.
    [/QUOTE]
    That was my only positive and you just ruined it. Hope you step on a lego.

  479. [QUOTE=”Rooney_Tunes, post: 7460220, member: 53040″]
    [USER=19905]@bicycleheader[/USER] Middle Finger my good Sir…not cool.
    [/QUOTE]

    moyes my good sir. Not cool

  480. [QUOTE=”blueconverse, post: 7460194, member: 43224″]
    Not a sign of going forward but I think he may make the difficult decisions like dropping Pickford.
    [/QUOTE]

    ? Picked him as a kid for Sunderland.

  481. [QUOTE=”Rooney_Tunes, post: 7460197, member: 53040″]
    Respectfully Disagree; absolutely toxic if Silva was still here. Moyes, we’ll adopt a wait and see.

    If Cahill/Arteta comes along, and Moyes is on till the end of the season contract, toxic will be replaced by cautious optimism.
    [/QUOTE]
    [USER=19905]@bicycleheader[/USER] Middle Finger my good Sir…not cool.

  482. [QUOTE=”Azza, post: 7460183, member: 10082″]
    I imagine the fume would be about the same if Moyes was in the dug out on Saturday or if Silva was still left.
    [/QUOTE]
    Respectfully Disagree; absolutely toxic if Silva was still here. Moyes, we’ll adopt a wait and see.

    If Cahill/Arteta comes along, and Moyes is on till the end of the season contract, toxic will be replaced by cautious optimism.

  483. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7460160, member: 19905″]
    [B]well for me it is. [/B]We disagree
    [/QUOTE]

    Such as? We’re 18th mate.

    Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal coming up.

  484. [QUOTE=”orly, post: 7460071, member: 16002″]
    My dream two-footed slidetackle would be delivered by a peak Peter Reid and simultaneously go through Moyes, Kenwright, Phil Neville, DCL and [USER=16993]@hktoffee[/USER]
    [/QUOTE]
    Don’t forget Schneiderlin and Sigurdson.

  485. I imagine the fume would be about the same if Moyes was in the dug out on Saturday or if Silva was still left.

  486. Not totally convinced, but it’s looking the most likely outcome.

    I’ll get behind Moyes. He’ll need support and I can see the rationale behind the appointment.

  487. He’s an incredibly divisive figure, what Board in their right mind would re-hire him…He’s going to be our next manager.

  488. [QUOTE=”hktoffee, post: 7460131, member: 16993″]
    We played 15 games. We got 14 points. The evidences ain’t there.
    [/QUOTE]

    well for me it is. We disagree

  489. [QUOTE=”Cool_Blue, post: 7460149, member: 51692″]
    But if he does come, we have to get behind him surely, for the greater good? However much some might hate him.
    [/QUOTE]

    I’ll be switching off all things Everton. Give my brain a break. It’s not healthy how much this stuff distracts me.

  490. But if he does come, we have to get behind him surely, for the greater good? However much some might hate him.

  491. [QUOTE=”technojoe, post: 7460106, member: 11834″]
    Safe hands in moyes, trains timmy up! Whats not to like??
    [/QUOTE]

    All of it.

    Moyes this, Moyes that.

    If he had stayed at (for example) Southampton for 11 years, did essentially nothing there, and was then:

    Fired from UTD in quick time
    Fired from Spain
    Took Sunderland down
    Fired by West Ham

    You would be livid if he was linked to the job.

    What makes you think for one second getting him back and pairing him with a former player will be a winning combination?

    As others have said, I would HONESTLY sooner stick with Silva.

  492. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7460125, member: 19905″]
    [B]silva[/B]

    definitely

    they would both[B] keep us up[/B]

    but moyes does not deserve to come anywhere near this club again
    [/QUOTE]

    We played 15 games. We got 14 points. The evidences ain’t there.

  493. [QUOTE=”hktoffee, post: 7460095, member: 16993″]
    A straight choice.

    Moyes or Silva. Yes or no?
    [/QUOTE]

    silva

    definitely

    they would both keep us up

    but moyes does not deserve to come anywhere near this club again

  494. [QUOTE=”orly, post: 7460115, member: 16002″]
    Thankfully in my dream that fraud dog turd rat doesn’t exist
    [/QUOTE]
    Ah gotcha

  495. [QUOTE=”JLW, post: 7460094, member: 38896″]
    I’m amazed Tom Davies wasn’t at the front of your que!
    [/QUOTE]

    Thankfully in my dream that fraud dog turd rat doesn’t exist

  496. [QUOTE=”orly, post: 7460071, member: 16002″]
    My dream two-footed slidetackle would be delivered by a peak Peter Reid and simultaneously go through Moyes, Kenwright, Phil Neville, DCL and [USER=16993]@hktoffee[/USER]
    [/QUOTE]
    Christ this made me laugh on a pretty sombre morning.

  497. No. Kenwright should never be allowed to make anymore decisions in regards to player/manager personnel. That’s why we hired a DOF.
    Moyes would be a disgrace and a slap in the face to the supporters

  498. [QUOTE=”john jako, post: 7460099, member: 32818″]
    Would rather guide my dad into my mum.
    [/QUOTE]

    Crying, funniest thing I’ve read on here in ages

  499. [QUOTE=”BNJ1878, post: 7460061, member: 7933″]
    You are Bill Kenwright and I claim my 5 pounds prize for guessing.

    Cahill as an assistant? BASED ON WHAT?????

    NO track record as a coach.

    If you think the fact “He was boss in the derby lad!” qualifies him you are part of the all-encompassing malaise around this football club.

    Bill needs running over, and then EVERY NON-PLAYING EMPLOYEE needs to re-interview for the job they are doing.

    Bollocks to sentiment, if you are not fit for the task, get rid.

    Tim Cahill. Christ.
    [/QUOTE]
    Safe hands in moyes, trains timmy up! Whats not to like??

  500. [QUOTE=”sageyefc, post: 7460091, member: 19618″]
    We’ll be seeing plenty of Keane and siggyfraud being mainstays in the team with bambi running the channels, all while cardigan nonce talks in the third person about how we’re lucky to have him
    [/QUOTE]
    I think it was Rio Ferdinand talking about when Moyes went to united and they were all laughing/bewildered at his tactics! Hit the channels lads.

    Koff Moyes you absolute fraud

  501. [QUOTE=”bicycleheader, post: 7460080, member: 19905″]
    NO

    a thousand times NO
    [/QUOTE]

    A straight choice.

    Moyes or Silva. Yes or no?

  502. [QUOTE=”orly, post: 7460071, member: 16002″]
    My dream two-footed slidetackle would be delivered by a peak Peter Reid and simultaneously go through Moyes, Kenwright, Phil Neville, DCL and [USER=16993]@hktoffee[/USER]
    [/QUOTE]
    I’m amazed Tom Davies wasn’t at the front of your que!

  503. We’ll be seeing plenty of Keane and siggyfraud being mainstays in the team with bambi running the channels, all while cardigan nonce talks in the third person about how we’re lucky to have him

  504. [QUOTE=”matty1878, post: 7460045, member: 2298″]
    Why what’s Cahill done to be an assistant?
    [/QUOTE]
    Beats his chest and kisses the badge! It’s seems that’s the criteria these days for our club to welcome someone. ‘He gets us’

  505. [QUOTE=”GrandOldTeam, post: 7459804, member: 1″]
    [URL=’https://www.grandoldteam.com/2019/12/05/poll-do-you-want-moyes-back/’]Continue reading…[/URL]
    [/QUOTE]
    You need a no choice option as well. Nobody really wants Moyes back but he’s a better option than silva

  506. [QUOTE=”BNJ1878, post: 7460061, member: 7933″]
    You are Bill Kenwright and I claim my 5 pounds prize for guessing.

    Cahill as an assistant? BASED ON WHAT?????

    NO track record as a coach.

    If you think the fact “He was boss in the derby lad!” qualifies him you are part of the all-encompassing malaise around this football club.

    Bill needs running over, and then EVERY NON-PLAYING EMPLOYEE needs to re-interview for the job they are doing.

    Bollocks to sentiment, if you are not fit for the task, get rid.

    Tim Cahill. Christ.
    [/QUOTE]

    Why can I only like this once?

  507. My dream two-footed slidetackle would be delivered by a peak Peter Reid and simultaneously go through Moyes, Kenwright, Phil Neville, DCL and [USER=16993]@hktoffee[/USER]

  508. [QUOTE=”technojoe, post: 7460034, member: 11834″]
    if Cahill is assistant yes.
    [/QUOTE]
    You are Bill Kenwright and I claim my 5 pounds prize for guessing.

    Cahill as an assistant? BASED ON WHAT?????

    NO track record as a coach.

    If you think the fact “He was boss in the derby lad!” qualifies him you are part of the all-encompassing malaise around this football club.

    Bill needs running over, and then EVERY NON-PLAYING EMPLOYEE needs to re-interview for the job they are doing.

    Bollocks to sentiment, if you are not fit for the task, get rid.

    Tim Cahill. Christ.

  509. Not really.

    Saying that, don#t understand all the animosity here. If he comes in and steadies the ship like Allardyce done and we restart next Summer i’d be fine with that. Not sure which manager exotic, foreign manager people want to throw into a relegation dogfight with a bunch of players with stinking attitudes. Moyes one of the personalities that could control that.

    Would love a Poch or even Emery, however, got to be realistic about who wants this job with the state the club is currently in.

  510. If the options are him or Silva then yes but the options shouldnt be him or Silva. Another one for the highlight reel of EFC board incompetence.

  511. [QUOTE=”technojoe, post: 7460034, member: 11834″]
    if Cahill is assistant yes.
    [/QUOTE]

    Why what’s Cahill done to be an assistant?

  512. [QUOTE=”Rudolf Hucker, post: 7460006, member: 40648″]
    Not if he was the last manager on the planet!

    NO

    If he is brought back I’m finished with Everton & football.
    [/QUOTE]

    This

  513. Not if he was the last manager on the planet!

    NO

    If he is brought back I’m finished with Everton & football.

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