Would we have gone down without Allardyce

[twoblue]

The way I see it is:
1. We had a new squad that hadn’t gelled
2. We’d play city, Arsenal, Spurs, United and Chelsea in our first fixtures.

We got the results we would often get against these teams and that in effect put us in a “false” position because we had condenced these fixtures so early on, but confidence was shot.

I’m pretty sure we would survived but equally it wasn’t a sure fire and in hindsight I think we should praise the board for taking action action koeman (who looked defeatist) and securing survival. We are at least on the dance floor for next season.

We had all high hopes from the transfers. No one was saying the signings were terrible at the start of the season. I do wonder whether we had a reverse fixture list (say we had played the 6 worse teams at the start) we could have got some results and built momentum.

Wish the season was over and just crack on with a new plan.

 

[brieverton]

I don't think we would have gone down, no. It's really very difficult to say how we might have done under another manager.

It's painted as a binary thing, relegation or safety, but there are degrees of comfort in between. I'm glad at least that we haven't needed to look over our shoulders much since January/February.

I thought we were in a bad place in November with a run of games coming up over the following month that would define the season, that's where we gained the points, and that's seemingly where Sam started and stopped.

I don't agree with those that say relegation was never a possibility and why would the board flirt with that risk, however slight? We have been utterly turd all season, and lately now we are reading of poor morale and tensions in the squad and club. I wouldn't trust 90% of these players, we are mid-table simply because other teams are even worse. There was definitely the potential to go on a disastrous losing streak as it would have been just a longer continuation of what we have already seen.

If we were depending on the commitment level and professionalism alone of the players to keep us up, we might well have been in bigger trouble. I can still see the justification for appointing Allardyce within the context of six weeks without a permanent manager even though he has made a absolute pigs ear of the job.

 

[MrGrumpy]

The answer is No we wouldn’t have gone down and here is why

When Allardyce took over we had 15 points after 14 games with 24 to play. Currently Southampton are on 29 points. So 1 point a game as we where average gives us 35 points, so still 6 ahead of Southampton, that gives us a total of 39 points, an it’s highly unlikely Southampton will win there last 4 games to get 40 points

 

[nsno-chris]

No

And he should never have been appointed, the gravy swilling crook. He’s brought his entire entourage with him, saddled up with that rat Walsh and sold the world his “relegation saving” mission.

His crap boring tactics and negativity will have an awful effect on the new manager; it’ll be like trying to scrape chipboard off a ceiling, it’ll take time and patience and it’s a pain in the arse

 

[Blackwell Livermore]

Koeman didn't mess up the club as much as Martinez did. So no, we weren't in any danger of being relegated.

 

[BernieWright13]

Yes, because he's a great success and he saved us.