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bravo, to much self pity and self hate in the uk, should be more like the yanks and be proud of are country, but i do get were people are saying we should keep out of there country , if they want to oppress , slaughter each other, bomb holy places and finish the sunni, shi ite conflict once and for all thats up to them not us.
Welsh weather edge...Sunni or shi ite.
 

Welsh weather edge...Sunni or shi ite.

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bravo, to much self pity and self hate in the uk, should be more like the yanks and be proud of are country, but i do get were people are saying we should keep out of there country , if they want to oppress , slaughter each other, bomb holy places and finish the sunni, shi ite conflict once and for all thats up to them not us.

The problem is edge is in these countries it's the few making the lives of many miserable. I think something needs to be done. I have no idea what though.
 

The problem is edge is in these countries it's the few making the lives of many miserable. I think something needs to be done. I have no idea what though.
thats true Harry but it seldom ends if we put a lid on things,it just bubbles under till it flares up again, its harsh but sometimes we should just let one side win and just deal with it from there, as normal in these thing its the familys that just want to get along with living there lives that suffer, but from a uk piont of view we arnt the policeman of the world, so its up to them to sort it.
 
The greatest at what?

Systematically taking land which didn't belong to us?
Managing to [Poor language removed] entire regions with our continued support of terrorism?
Sucking up to the yanks at any given opportunity?
Being so anti-anyone not white that it's getting silly?
Being so single minded that we can't improve on anything we've got, so we're just going to have the same problems over and over?
Distancing ourselves from any European financial matters which is helping the rise of the far-right?

OK, lar' I'm pretty proud of that.


Okay I'll try and be as logical as I can here.

"Systematically taking land which didn't belong to us?"

1. Pretty much every country in history have fought wars and made land grabs. England has a rich history of doing it for sure (against my country possibly more than any other) but that was all in the past. Britain of the 22nd century abides by international law. Now you car argue that Blair/Bush flouted international law and my counter is that international law needs to be tougher - and has been since the weapons of mass destruction affair (in respect of the voting on the UN security council)

"Managing to [Poor language removed] entire regions with our continued support of terrorism?"

2. Britain doesn't support terrorism and hasn't in any way for over 20 years

"Sucking up to the yanks at any given opportunity?"

3. America is a democracy and the world's largest economy. Britain shares huge cultural ties. Not siding with it in most cases would be strange in the extreme

"Being so anti-anyone not white that it's getting silly?"

4. Britain is one of the most multi-culturally diverse nations on Earth. It has an active anti-racism agenda and probably one of the leading justice systems in the world

"Being so single minded that we can't improve on anything we've got, so we're just going to have the same problems over and over?"

5. You what?

"Distancing ourselves from any European financial matters which is helping the rise of the far-right?"

6. The Euro crisis is a world wide issue caused by human greed and lax banking protocol. The result is a global recession the like of which generally leads to a far-right rally. When folk are poor and unhappy they blame people. Human nature. The UK is no more distancing itself than Japan or Canada is


p.s. Carlos you're ace

p.p.s You realise Mr 25 that at least in this country you have the right and ability to actively criticise our government and way of life? If you tried that in any of the hardline Muslim countries you make reference to you'd have some part of your body sliced off by now (at best)

p.p.p.s As a democracy you're free to leave at any time
 
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Lads, just the mention today, of people being kept by us in Afgan without charge will give someone the push over the edge they need...
We don't help ourselves sometimes.
 
thats true Harry but it seldom ends if we put a lid on things,it just bubbles under till it flares up again, its harsh but sometimes we should just let one side win and just deal with it from there, as normal in these thing its the familys that just want to get along with living there lives that suffer, but from a uk piont of view we arnt the policeman of the world, so its up to them to sort it.

You're probably right mate, I just feel sorry for the good people who didn't choose to be born there.
 
You're probably right mate, I just feel sorry for the good people who didn't choose to be born there.
yes i do as well ,harry as long as people thirst for power others suffer , pity that people dont really live their lives by the faith/ political beleives they proffess to follow the world would be a miles better place,
 

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