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Women footballers claims for “equal” pay... when they already get too much.

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Apparently some US women are squabbling over “equal” pay, complaining the US men get more. The standard of women’s football was an abomination (the US women’s team lost to a junior boys team from Dallas), its in its infancy and in all likelihood won’t make the huge stride needed to hit a quality level from a women’s standpoint (like women’s tennis has) but that’s besides the point. They get less money because they generate less, almost 1/80th in World Cup revenue in comparison to the men to be precise ($73 million to $6 billion). The lunacy of such claims cannot spread here (pretty sure it won’t as there isn’t the same degree of ignorance here for it to happen in the media or shysters chancing there arm over anything in the courts). This fella covers it nicely:


In March of this year, The Los Angeles Times publisherd a stinging op-ed that said: “The U.S. women’s soccer team outperforms the men’s team when it comes to victories, domestic viewership, name recognition and general awesomeness. Its members are stars, consistently ranked No. 1 in the world, and they make millions of dollars for their employer, the U.S. Soccer Federation.”

The op-ed goes on to discuss the aforementioned lawsuits and the reasons the ladies should be paid the same figures las the men. However, just like the other commentators, the article misses the point. Yes, the women are indeed “No. 1 in the world,” but they’re number one in women’s sports, which has far fewer fans and plays far fewer games.

Ouch. Continued....

One of the major factors that separate men’s sports and women’s is a not so little thing called revenue. To put it bluntly, female soccer players, just like female basketball players and female hockey players, are paid less because their respective sports make less. The total prize money for the Women’s World Cup in France this July was $30 million; the total prize money for the men’s 2022 World Cup in Qatar will be $440 million.

According to Mike Oznian, a writer for Forbes, the 2015 Women’s World Cup “brought in almost $73 million, of which the players got 13%. The 2010 men’s World Cup in South Africa made almost $4 billion, of which 9% went to the players.” Last year, the men’s World Cup in Russia generated more than $6 billion in revenue; the participating teams shared about $400 million. That is less than 7 percent of overall revenue. Meanwhile, the 2019 Women’s World Cup made somewhere in the region of $131 million, doling out $30 million, well more than 20 percent of collected revenue, to the participating teams. It seems a pay gap does exist, after all.

Precisely, women get too much. Continued..

Lastly, men’s sports, especially men’s team sports, are inherently more entertaining to watch than women’s. Whether it happens to be men’s soccer or basketball, when compared with the female equivalent, the skill levels on show are incomparable.


One of these politicians “Chuck Schumer” has been backing the women on there calls....no doubt with such support for their cause he can testify to being a season ticket holder at his local women’s teams where his presence makes up a tenth of the crowd.
 
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Why so bothered about it? You sound awfully bothered. Almost angry. Why?

Women’s football is a long way short of men’s football in terms of quality, a long way short in terms of popularity and a long, long, Long way short in terms of revenue generation. That’s true.

But the USA women have played more games, won more games, and been exponent more successful over the past 4 years than their equivalent men’s team.

The USA men’s team surely is not worthy of any cash generation and is just getting a slice of a bloated pie.

They’re rubbish. The sport is barely watched in the US vs their “big 4” sports and it’s the women’s team, not the men’s team that are bringing new fans to the sport.

I generally agree with the point - thiugh with far less force and anger - that you cannot compare the money in the two sports and therefore pay is disproportionate, but if there’s anywhere the argument holds water that the women should earn more it’s the USA national teams.
 
You shouldn't get paid to represent your country, regardless of gender.
The problem is women get paid next to nothing for their clubs. Games are played infront of crowds as low as three figures. The national team is their main source of income which is the opposite case for men, so they would rightly complain about that.

The issue is demanding “equal” pay when they generate a tiny amount of revenue in comparison.

If the men make 10% of revenue generated then by all means let the women have 10% of revenue generated. That’s a moot point though as they don’t already get parity they get a bigger percentage. Women are overpaid.
 
We live in a commercial world and therefore you are paid based on how much you bring in. When Women's football brings in the same amount of supporters and income from TV rights then they will deserve that money.

Until then it's nonsense.

I watched the last few games of the world cup and to be honest I would rather watch an under 21 match. To me the point of watching sports is to see the very pinnacle where players do something that you would never be able to. I think I could slot in quite nicely into a Woman's team and do 95% of what they can do as professional players and that to me has to change, or everybody has to get fed up with the excess of the men's game to the point where the ladies games are the only football available to watch.
 

Why so bothered about it? You sound awfully bothered. Almost angry. Why?

Women’s football is a long way short of men’s football in terms of quality, a long way short in terms of popularity and a long, long, Long way short in terms of revenue generation. That’s true.

But the USA women have played more games, won more games, and been exponent more successful over the past 4 years than their equivalent men’s team.

The USA men’s team surely is not worthy of any cash generation and is just getting a slice of a bloated pie.

They’re rubbish. The sport is barely watched in the US vs their “big 4” sports and it’s the women’s team, not the men’s team that are bringing new fans to the sport.

I generally agree with the point - thiugh with far less force and anger - that you cannot compare the money in the two sports and therefore pay is disproportionate, but if there’s anywhere the argument holds water that the women should earn more it’s the USA national teams.
The US women’s team lost 5-2 to an under 17 boys team from Dallas. Stating who “wins” what is irrelevant. It’s what money they bring in.

I couldn’t care less about sports in the US; their national sport is Rounders, a British sport for kids. What they choose to do is up to them. This is not a country issue. The issue here is the “equal” pay claim which could affect the sport (they have mentioned it affecting the 2026 World Cup), plus could have a snowball effect with claims galore.
 
In sport, pay should be fairly related to what it generates at the turnstiles, irregardless of gender. If the women's game starts attracting more paying viewers tham men, they should be paid more than men. Until then, pipe down. I wonder what fuss would be made if a fella started a mens netball team and demanded the women's netball teams partly fund it to equalise pay. It would be daft because I doubt the men would get much interest, so why should they expect to be paid for it.

We don't live in a fair world though. I read somewhere that around 80% of the uk economy is base upon the efforts of scientists. Who do we reward the most? Footballers, bankers and pop stars ffs.
 
We live in a commercial world and therefore you are paid based on how much you bring in. When Women's football brings in the same amount of supporters and income from TV rights then they will deserve that money.

Until then it's nonsense.

I watched the last few games of the world cup and to be honest I would rather watch an under 21 match. To me the point of watching sports is to see the very pinnacle where players do something that you would never be able to. I think I could slot in quite nicely into a Woman's team and do 95% of what they can do as professional players and that to me has to change, or everybody has to get fed up with the excess of the men's game to the point where the ladies games are the only football available to watch.
That’s the crux of it.
Why do you hate women mate?
Wild accusation there. What did you base that on?

It’s not a gender specific issue...if women were generating more I’d expect to see them earning more. It down to basic numbers.

The quality (or lack of in the case of women’s football) isn’t the issue, it’s how much money do they bring in to earn.

In terms of women’s sport, tennis is the optimum level. Steffi Graf is my favourite tennis player male or female. Unlike women’s football it’s not in its infancy..it’s a developed sport that is generally as big a draw as the men. Female tennis players have earned “equal” pay.
 

I don't think anything in sport bothers me enough to write a few thousand words on a forum. A few thousand seething with resentment like that certainly. Actually, as a rule, there's almost no way I'd write something that length for free.

Go for a walk.
 
Why so bothered about it? You sound awfully bothered. Almost angry. Why?

Women’s football is a long way short of men’s football in terms of quality, a long way short in terms of popularity and a long, long, Long way short in terms of revenue generation. That’s true.

But the USA women have played more games, won more games, and been exponent more successful over the past 4 years than their equivalent men’s team.

The USA men’s team surely is not worthy of any cash generation and is just getting a slice of a bloated pie.

They’re rubbish. The sport is barely watched in the US vs their “big 4” sports and it’s the women’s team, not the men’s team that are bringing new fans to the sport.

I generally agree with the point - thiugh with far less force and anger - that you cannot compare the money in the two sports and therefore pay is disproportionate, but if there’s anywhere the argument holds water that the women should earn more it’s the USA national teams.

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I don't think anything in sport bothers me enough to write a few thousand words on a forum. A few thousand seething with resentment like that certainly. Actually, as a rule, there's almost no way I'd write something that length for free.

Go for a walk.

Don't think he deserves that. It's a post with valid points.
 

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