Who'd have thunk it?

[BLUEBERT]

"I would rather have a General who was lucky than one who was good" Napoleon ,,

 

[Gladystweet]

"I would rather have a General who was lucky than one who was good" Napoleon ,,

 

[Lanolin]

Let's just see how it pans out shall we?

Allardyce has come in and done pretty much what everyone expected him to do - organise the team and get us back to basics. That will always tend to have a short term impact, but it has its limitations, and can lead to a lack of progress if the manager decides to stick with what's 'working' rather than taking a risk and trying to build something to take you through the glass ceiling.

Basically we've played three games, including one at home to a team who haven't scored away since the opening day of the season and one away to a side who've lost their last four home games and only won one of their last eleven games. I know i'm seemingly in the minority, but I'd have fancied us to win those two if my dog was in charge of us.

Don't get me wrong, Allardyce has done nothing wrong and I give him credit for getting results, but I just don't buy the idea that he's come in and turned the place on its head with some incredible results. Our best result under him is a draw at the pit that's just been matched by Alan Pardew's West Brom, while David Moyes has overseen similar results at West Ham. I'll reserve judgement on how far Sam can take us until I've got a bigger sample of games to look at I think.

 

[Llyrap]

Good article. Way too early for me however.

 

[ijjysmith]

Feel it’s a bit early for something like this.

It’s still Everton and has 1-0 to Swansea written all over Monday night. Off Bony’s big fat ass.

 

[Abraders]

Of course there is the other option that few seem willing to consider.

Allyrdyce is a better manager than he is given credit for.

I know he says he didn't pick the team against West Ham but I wonder if he had an input ?
It was the first time Rooney played that deeper midfield role and he has been there more or less in all the games since.

He spoke to them before the game like

 

[captainvindaloo]

Too soon to judge. Results have improved, but we have ridden our luck in all of them.
Nevertheless, confidence is returning to the players, and that for me is a big plus. If we can keep this run going into the new year, then yes, credit for big and little Sam, Shakes and the football boffins and the rest of the sports science team will be deserved.
In the meantime, keep the clean sheets going, and maybe even score more than one goal a game over Christmas, and we will all have a merry time of it.

 

[Abraders]

Let's just see how it pans out shall we?

Allardyce has come in and done pretty much what everyone expected him to do - organise the team and get us back to basics. That will always tend to have a short term impact, but it has its limitations, and can lead to a lack of progress if the manager decides to stick with what's 'working' rather than taking a risk and trying to build something to take you through the glass ceiling.

Basically we've played three games, including one at home to a team who haven't scored away since the opening day of the season and one away to a side who've lost their last four home games and only won one of their last eleven games. I know i'm seemingly in the minority, but I'd have fancied us to win those two if my dog was in charge of us.

Don't get me wrong, Allardyce has done nothing wrong and I give him credit for getting results, but I just don't buy the idea that he's come in and turned the place on its head with some incredible results. Our best result under him is a draw at the pit that's just been matched by Alan Pardew's West Brom, while David Moyes has overseen similar results at West Ham. I'll reserve judgement on how far Sam can take us until I've got a bigger sample of games to look at I think.

Yet we were a team who hadn't won away since january, conceded the most goals in the league and could barely buy a win.

I would've banked on us losing 3/4 of those games before Sam came in.

 

[Rob17896]

We've had a fairly easy tun of games since he came in as well. He'll be judged in May (or already has been if Moshiri has lined up Silva).

They would not have been easy three weeks ago!

 

[Lanolin]

Yet we were a team who hadn't won away since january, conceded the most goals in the league and could barely buy a win.

I would've banked on us losing 3/4 of those games before Sam came in.

Barely buy a win? We won the game before he took over. And the home game before that. This is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about, this bizarre rewriting of history to say we were the worst team in the league, when we'd taken 7 points from the 4 games before he took over.

 

[sheedys left foot]

No.

 

[anton66]

I think any manager taking over would have had similar results. We couldn't play any worse than we had been. Credit goes to Unsy for the first 2 games since Sam was announced.

 

[JLW]

Still very much in the honeymoon period. I’m his biggest critic but he is doing ok at the minute BUT there is no evidence that he can sustain this sort of form over a season or two which is my concern with the appointment in the first place. He also generally gets the sack after a while (leaving clubs in the bottom half) and that’s with smaller clubs who have less ambition than we do.

I’m not letting a couple of good results change my mind on him

 

[Bluecranks]

I expect we'll know more after xmas. I'm not getting too excited about the transfer window. Top strikers don't become available and we're Everton so don't do good windows. Talk of Troy Deeney does not excite me one jot. A solid top half finish and knocking them out of the cup at Anfield would turn this into a good season. Not what we'd hoped for at the start, but that's where we are at the moment.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

We were going down before he came in. His appointment to keep us in the Premier League and give us time to tap up his successor for August is well worth his wages.