Where does the problem lie?

Who is to blame for our form?

  • Players

    Votes: 110 40.0%
  • Allardyce

    Votes: 17 6.2%
  • Both

    Votes: 121 44.0%
  • Don't give a toss I don't follow football anyway

    Votes: 27 9.8%

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Poor leadership at boardroom level for two decades.
A vastly unbalanced squad that you could say goes back as far as Martinez and hasn’t been addressed.
Players with no hunger who are happy to just take a pay day.
We have a mixture of players coming to the end of playing at the highest level and young players just starting to play at this level.

I’ll give big Sam the benifit if the doubt as he’s only been here a month. Prior to him we were shipping 4 goals a game and could only dream of a clean sheet.
I suppose at least some progress has been made in that department.
 

Awful defence.
Abysmal midfield.
No strikeforce.

Shambles of a board.

Even changing two of those we'd still be a disgrace.
 
To sum things up: Abysmal. Major problems in full back positions. No creativity whatsoever on the pitch. Painfully limited in attack. Rooney stunk the gaff out and was rightfully taken off. We didn't lay a finger on them until Macca came on and even then that was for about ten minutes. We are painful to watch
 
The minute we conceded and sat back in the first half it was game over.

Rooney passing costs us so much and today we were punished for it. For every boss pass he makes he gives it away over 10 yards. Been like that all season and take away his penalty goals his return isn't that fantastic.

But not singling out Rooney, just a random statement that.

But there is no real plan away from defend and that is where we are second best in most games. When we try to play we are actually quite good, but without the fight to win the ball back and reluctance to match teams we just aren't going to be very succesful
 

Who’s to blame?
Moshiri and Kenwright.

They are the leadership at the club, or supposed to be.

Between them they have hired Martinez, Koeman, and Walsh who have all failed.

We had a solid base left behind by Moyes from which additional money and prudent investment should have been the springboard to mount a decent challenge to the Top 6. I don’t think anyone was expecting titles but just good football and to make ourselves competitive and improve year on year.

We have instead seen a litany of poor decisions, one after the other. The squad is unrecognisable from 2013 when we could at least say we had a good starting XI and try to move from there.

Instead it’s now full of dross and so many players I can’t find any positives for. The family silver was sold and replaced with copper.

Ultimately and this is unfortunate but the responsibility is with Moshiri now - poor decisions and poor execution. Kenwright is the elephant in the room but Moshiri either cannot or will not streamline the running of the club and appoint competent business professionals to run it.

Likewise Walsh should have been sacked with Koeman. The two of them together have been the biggest disaster to befall this club since the European ban.
 
The squad is awful.

Keepers - Pickford is alright. Nothing special and not a 30m player. Robles is fine in the Carlo Nash role. Stek was signed by his mate.

Defence - One left back at the club and one right back. Both Crocked. Martina is a Championship level player at best, but again signed by his mate. Kenny is again, alright and in a few years might be a decent player in a few years. Centre Backs - we have two warhorses, one still at the club out of misguided loyalty in the form of Jagielka and one that had vast sums of cashed spunked on him. Holgate is a decent youth and will get better. Keane is an utter waste of time and I would happily punch his stupid looking face until my fists were raw. Another 30m up the swany. Funes Mori lurks somewhere at Finch Farm and that's probably the best place for him.

Midfield - AKA slightly more advanced defenders. Schniederlin was another wonderful waste of cash signed by his mate, not as good as Barry in the same position. Gueye is brilliant one day, turbogash the next. McCarthy has done 70 minutes of football in what seems like 18 months. But he's family so that's okay. Davies is having second season syndrome, granted he's probably a bit more scouted, but he's not creating like he did before. Potentially another Rodwell. Baningime looks decent and should be ahead of McCarthy and Schideruseless. Besic apparently exists, but I think is a tale told to scare children.

Wingers - Some teams play two of these (!) We have Vlasic, who can play for 30 minutes then needs a month off. Actually a decent winger, if we had attackers for him to work with he'd be a threat. Lookman appears to be us signing a player so no-one else can have him. Not that they particularly would as he has all the skill of a blind mule. Mirallas was a good player on occasion in the deep past. Now he's just woeful and a sulky git. Bolaise is fast. Occasionally he will do something good. The rest of the time he'll make League One style mistakes. Odd player. Lennon is on the downward leg of his career and at least has passion, but not the player he was once.

NO 10. These are our attacking outlets! Rooney..eh, he has good days, he has bad days. It feels like he's been thrust into a role because there was no Plan B. Sigurdsson can be a decent player when he decides to turn up, or isn't exiled to the left. Showed himself as a big fish in a small pond at Swansea. Waste of cash really. Klaasen is that person that your mate brings to a party that drinks all your beer, breaks the furniture and sexually assaults guests. Then your mates like 'Yeah I thought he was alright.' Then your mate disappears. THen you wake up the next morning and there's Klaasen asleep on our sofa with his gentials on display. And he's eaten your ice cream. Klaasen is terrible. And cost money.
Barkley is too busy getting knocked out and trying to learn how to read to play football. Our attacking threat from Midfield is a lot like that bag in American Beauty.

Strikers - DID YOU KNOW: Some teams have multiple strikers on a pitch at a time! Also, before getting rid of one of the best in the league the year before you should probably have a plan to replace him. That plan should not be a player that seemingly has two identities - Sandro and Ramirez - maybe putting the two together would form one half decent premiership player? Anyway Bin. Calvert-Lewin had the audacity to score the winner at a World Cup Final. To punish him he must now player as a 90's style target man and have lumps kicked out of him. FUN ACTIVITY - sees how many times DCL is actually able to play facing goal - apparently a must for strikers. Niasse is a trier and we all love him. If the balls at his feet near the goal then he's alright, otherwise he's a bit like a three legged dog.

That is my summation of our awful squad.
 

The latest dip is down to Sam imho, he started tinkering with the team to try and keep things fresh but that's only a good tactic if you pick up the points. And yes while it was far from perfect before it was better than it has been recently. To be fair today was better going forward than it has been (first half) but that could be to do with the fact that Mourinho was out allardycing Allardyce.
 
None of this sits with the management in my opinion, you cannot coach heart, or passion or courage. You can train this lot all you like, get them fitter than anybody else, coach tactics until they are better rehearsed than a politician denying an accusation, it won’t alter the fact that they are all lacking backbone.

We have a vastly over-valued squad of abject cowards, for all the money we have spent, you could drop,Straq into that squad and within two games he would be standing out as the only one who has any bottle!
 
Bunch of overpaid underworked jerkovs with a bunch of amateurs at boardroom level. Walter Mitty characters with no idea on how to achieve success.
 
From the 1-0 win against what turns out to be an awful Stoke City, the season has been an embarrasment. big Fat Sam has only resolved one issue in the month he has been here - dont ship goals against poor teams. he didnt make Lardy Boy Williams great, just made him play a bit less bad. However he cant make the team keep clean sheets against better sides. He has done nothing to fix our midfield, let alone the attack! I dont think he can. Today he bemoaned the attitude of his players and said McCarthy showed them how.... isn’t it his job to motivate the team at half time. Doesn’t he own that?
We will never progress with bigFat Sam, we will draw enough mediocre teams to ensure safety.Please make him go away and make the nightmare stop.
 

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