Where does the problem lie?

[deipnosophist]

Responsibility resides at the top. But we do not even have a majority shareholder...so who's at the top?

Blue Bill has rinsed the Iranian imo. Farhad's been taught a business lesson by a prima facie avuncular figure...but Blue Bill is as scheming and treacherous as they come. That's not being pejorative btw, you have to doff your cap to Bill. He got a large cache of cash out of his investment...and still pulls the strings. He's an impresario...a modern day Svengali.

 

[deipnosophist]

The summer was a mess in hindsight. Stinks of Koeman & Walsh picking a bunch of players they each like with no second thought on how'd they'd gel and threw money at them. We're still paying the price for that.

I get pooh-poohed for daring to confront this, but I genuinely believe we might pay the ultimate price. Because we are genuine relegation quality.

 

[Igrok]

Everton that...

 

[originalgreaserbob]

I get pooh-poohed for daring to confront this, but I genuinely believe we might pay the ultimate price. Because we are genuine relegation quality.

You should get pooh-poohed for it. There's 8 teams just as bad, if not worse, between us and relegation. For us to go down we would have to finish the season worse than *all* of them. We're not going down.

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

Allardyce wanted his players to get in their faces and tackle. He said McCarthy was the only one who done that. Why the others kept backing off, he doesn't know. Seems like our players are going out there unsure of what to do.

 

[chango]

The problem in my opinion is the lack of decent options in all positions. On the face of it that responsibility lies with the former manager and Steve Walsh.

However we don't know if they Walsh/koeman just didn't want to sign a striker in the summer or whether they were prevented from doing so by the board

 

[ExpatinBangkok]

Problem is apart from Sig and Gueye we have no above average midfielders or attackers. To challenge for the top we will need new and expensive lw/rw AND st ..

 

[tommytowne]

You should get pooh-poohed for it. There's 8 teams just as bad, if not worse, between us and relegation. For us to go down we would have to finish the season worse than *all* of them. We're not going down.

From best of the rest to best of the worst.
Progress eh?

 

[tommytowne]

You should get pooh-poohed for it. There's 8 teams just as bad, if not worse, between us and relegation. For us to go down we would have to finish the season worse than *all* of them. We're not going down.

Tell you what points will be difficult to come by over the next six weeks. If one of those eight puts a run together like we had, the table will look a bit scary again.

 

[ilikecheese]

Our starting left back (by no fault of his, bless his heart) is Cuco Martina. I think that's a decent beginning point to the answer.

Even worse he's not been our worst performer.

The expectation bar is at a near all time low for me. No idea why losing to United behind two great goals is even fume worthy.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I think our problems are cumulative, the Moyes era best of the rest players have departed or are reaching the end of their careers. The Martinez era players just weren't good enough. Our 'golden generation ' of young players are two or three seasons away from proving their worth, and need easing into the team rather than throwing in. Koeman tried to fast forward the necessary overhaul by cramming too many new players in at once. We lack an experienced proven centre forward. We now have an experienced mid table manager who was always inferior to Moyes. Too many managerial changes in a relatively short space of time means we have continually disrupted the side with different training regimes and styles of play.
We lack the players with the ability to make the ball stick up front or at least convert enough of the sparse chances that come our way, instead we continually surrender possession with poor passing and regardless of managers instructions end up defending deeper and deeper as every game goes on.
To compound all the above we started the season with all the hardest games bunched together which destroyed any vestige of confidence we may have had and , worryingly, we are back in that cycle of matches again. We are far from safe at the moment.

 

[marsh]

A bit of both i think

 

[Eggs]

...amazed that Koeman isn’t in the poll. As @davek says, we’ve been left with a very poor group of players. I don’t know where we’ll go from here but I think Allardyce has done brilliantly picking up the points we have with what’s available to him. That might be because of bounce and a degree of luck or it might be that he’s at least making us hard to beat.

The tactics reflect the lack of ability our players possess. The bottom line is accumulating points, folk have quickly forgotten the heavy defeats culminating in the hammering at Southampton not long ago.

 

[deipnosophist]

You should get pooh-poohed for it. There's 8 teams just as bad, if not worse, between us and relegation. For us to go down we would have to finish the season worse than *all* of them. We're not going down.

Cheers Bob...consider me appropriately pooh-poohed...I just wish I had your tungsten-clad confidence. Because what I’ve been watching just lately from Everton, inspires in me anything but...

 

[crockyblue79]

Sadly to say we have become insignificant in the city of Liverpool. You get the feeling as
long as the RS are in good shape then the public are happy.