Ferguson1878
Player Valuation: £35m
maybe lad but i remember the blue union lads taking a lot of grief unjustified to
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1986 when we sold Gary Lineker to appease the banks.
The minute kenwright walked through the door with his small time sentiments.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £20m
The blue union lads have been fully vindicated... many, many times over!
To blame a handful of fellas for the lack of atmosphere is utter nonsense.
The happy clappers are now nowhere to be seen. They got the board they deserved.... and we have all suffered the consequences ever since. The club has been hollowed out by their hero, to the point where it has all come home to roost.
To blame a handful of fellas for the lack of atmosphere is utter nonsense.
The happy clappers are now nowhere to be seen. They got the board they deserved.... and we have all suffered the consequences ever since. The club has been hollowed out by their hero, to the point where it has all come home to roost.
When did the rot set in? I think you have to break it down. The mid-80's post Heysel looking back I reckon the club didn't have enough backbone to challenge the authorities and, also to develop the club at a peak. Kendall leaving was a defining moment - when he returned I think not only was he no longer the best man for the job but the club had fell behind. We've continued to fall behind ever since.
Our history, our status, our size at the turn of the 90's was unequalled really apart from the RS and Man U for size but what are we now? 30 years one major trophy. No longer that big club because we stood still and when you stand still you go backwards. Other clubs took our place at the top table.
Then you have dumbing down of expectations. Everyone tells us our place. And eventually the incompetent and inept way the club is run brings us to here. We've had chances to change the direction of the club over the years despite the downward trajectory. Sliding door moments. Not least Moshiri and not wanting to be a museum. But since he failed to oust the likes of Kenwright and he himself (Moshiri) was incompetent in running a football club, it's beyond parody. The whole
regime in the last 30 plus years has failed. In an era the PL was awash with money we failed. In an 6-7 year period of spend spend, we failed. If we stay up they have to go. If we go down, they have to go. We need a reset, but hopefully not one that takes us down and reshapes the club in to some kind of Sunderland or Sheffield Wednesday.
Under Kenwright that's what we've become.
Our history, our status, our size at the turn of the 90's was unequalled really apart from the RS and Man U for size but what are we now? 30 years one major trophy. No longer that big club because we stood still and when you stand still you go backwards. Other clubs took our place at the top table.
Then you have dumbing down of expectations. Everyone tells us our place. And eventually the incompetent and inept way the club is run brings us to here. We've had chances to change the direction of the club over the years despite the downward trajectory. Sliding door moments. Not least Moshiri and not wanting to be a museum. But since he failed to oust the likes of Kenwright and he himself (Moshiri) was incompetent in running a football club, it's beyond parody. The whole
regime in the last 30 plus years has failed. In an era the PL was awash with money we failed. In an 6-7 year period of spend spend, we failed. If we stay up they have to go. If we go down, they have to go. We need a reset, but hopefully not one that takes us down and reshapes the club in to some kind of Sunderland or Sheffield Wednesday.
Under Kenwright that's what we've become.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
summer window 2017
Eggsyblueskin
Player Valuation: £40m
The rot started to appear as John Moores health began to decline and his involvement waned.
Ironically that rot had already taken hold as we entered our finest years under Kendall.
The long term future of the club was badly damaged by the apparent inertia and lack of vision by all those responsible for its administration following John Moores death.
Ironically that rot had already taken hold as we entered our finest years under Kendall.
The long term future of the club was badly damaged by the apparent inertia and lack of vision by all those responsible for its administration following John Moores death.
Cameron Manning
Player Valuation: £35m
Well if they were spitting at young lads they stink, but the people i knew would never do that, how do you know they were part of the Blue Union?
Before that. We thought we had a god given right to be a big club, after John Moores we thought we would just stay there. Everton were one of the big five scumbags who pushed forward the PL. Having thought our position was ringfenced we then failed to make the best of it as a business and team. Make no mistake, this was no different than the European Super League attempt. It was just that the ESL idea happened when Everton were no longer important.
We had a dumb board well before Kenwright.
good times bad times
Player Valuation: £8m
The mediocrity was delivered by Kenwright, not Moyes, who achieved regular top 6 finishes way above expectations given the squad and budget he had to work with.
The Moyes period interrupted the mediocrity which had already set in before he was appointed and which resumed shortly after he left. They seem like halcyon days compared to where we are now.
Moonlight dribbler
Player Valuation: £6m
Long term decline - 1989 when Bill Kenwright joined the board, with nothing other than a willingness to allow the club to tick over.
Medium term - Bill Kenwright taking ownership in 1999, that initially felt miserable.
Most recent - appointing Benitez.
My thoughts fwiw.
Medium term - Bill Kenwright taking ownership in 1999, that initially felt miserable.
Most recent - appointing Benitez.
My thoughts fwiw.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £20m
Kenwright was on the board before the Prem league started. We were at the top table then, driving things because our status snd size were indisputable. Our board then did the least to maintain or grow that status of all our rival clubs. They delivered comfortably the least in terms of new infrastructure off ALL clubs. Financially our income and investment flatlined for decades, while all around us expanded their stadia and commercial incomes. We were run like a corner shop surrounded by supermarkets, then hypermarkets. We were left behind.... because we were rank amateurs with a chairman who cared nothing more than to control his toy.... at all costs. The list of failures and supporting lies are endless. This has been decades in the making, and is the result of serial failures and poor decisions. Moyes papered over the cracks for years and an absolute fortune in Russian cash was thrown at it under the same chairman..... why is anyone surprised?
Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
The real rot which has caused us to be on the brink of relegation two seasons on the bounce started when we appointed Benitez IMO.
It was a ridiculous appointment and one which set the club off on a toxic footprint which has continued since.
I blame that purely on Mosh. But, others at the club, mainly Kenwright have done far less for this club than Mosh has, at least he has put money in, he’s just been badly advised and made some bad decisions.
It was a ridiculous appointment and one which set the club off on a toxic footprint which has continued since.
I blame that purely on Mosh. But, others at the club, mainly Kenwright have done far less for this club than Mosh has, at least he has put money in, he’s just been badly advised and made some bad decisions.
The Lineker sale annoys me to this day. I would've kept him but he was sold for nowhere near his true value to one of the richest clubs in the world after scoring 40 for us then going on to be leading scorer in the '86 World Cup.
We got a lot less than the RS got for Ian Rush who couldn't even get near a World Cup let alone be leading scorer in one and got comfortably outscored by Lineker the previous season.
We didn't even make much of a profit on him either as we had to pay Leicester a third of the fee due to a sell-on clause.
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