Failure? So staying in the top flight of English football constitutes failure. Right you are.
Crap season? Are we having to come out in the pouring rain after another loss while trying to remember how other scores affected us with regards to relegation? It's a season with no silverware. Things are changing.
We're out of both cups with 3 more points than last season. How would you have felt about that last year with Martinez in charge?
things are not changing, everything is exactly the same, losing club, losing players, losing mentality from top to bottom.
I can't answer that really as the frustration with Martinez was more that we couldn't see a game out and it appeared he had rose tinted glasses on. Last season at times there was a worry we were going to get dragged into a relegation fight.
If that's how you feel find something better to do with yourself?
You watched today's game right?
In all seriousness, I agree with your read on Martinez. But I think you are too harsh about those frustrated by today's result or results in general this season. No one is expecting miracles, but both the results and the performances have been disappointing.
Like I say, it's more the feeling that people talk like they know far better than the people in charge and know far more about the ins and outs than they do. My frame of reference is probably different to there's on terms of winning.
So we're in the top 1% of clubs in the country but that's not an indicator of success. Okay.
