What's happened to our academy?

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This makes pretty grim reading https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn081g8x520o

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I think all of that will be from Armstrong. It's not like we're flogging players to other teams either, as only really Gordon fits into that camp.
 
This makes pretty grim reading https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn081g8x520o

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I think all of that will be from Armstrong. It's not like we're flogging players to other teams either, as only really Gordon fits into that camp.
Interesting stuff. Remember bemoaning our lack of academy success some time ago and @Goat pointed out that, regionally, we're competing against three other major teams with arguably greater pull than us. They hoover up the talent.

Still pretty sad though. Interesting that Wolves dominate the midlands scene. I know they did invest heavily in their youth set up with a view to competing for talent.
 
Interesting stuff. Remember bemoaning our lack of academy success some time ago and @Goat pointed out that, regionally, we're competing against three other major teams with arguably greater pull than us. They hoover up the talent.

Still pretty sad though. Interesting that Wolves dominate the midlands scene. I know they did invest heavily in their youth set up with a view to competing for talent.
That's always been the case though, but previously we've been able to offer a smoother path to the first team. I'm not sure that's the case any more.
 
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Brighton do remarkably well, as they're close enough to London to be beaten to talent by Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs.

You say that, but if you take the London clubs out of the equation, with the exception of Bournemouth, they are the top club and have most of the South of England to gather talent from
 
That's always been the case though, but previously we've been able to offer a smoother path to the first team. I'm not sure that's the case any more.

Nah I think we show a clearer path to the first team than most PL clubs myself - just look at Armstrong this season.

Frankly we've just not really had many over the last 5-6 years even remotely good enough. We haven't really lost anyone to another club because they were frustrated at not breaking through: Samuels-Smith left for Chelsea, turns 20 soon and he's on loan at Swansea so did it really work out for him? Emilio Lawrence likewise, 21 this year on loan at Luton in League One. Too many kids jump to move to these massive academies without really looking at the bigger picture of their careers.

The best prospects we currently have: Graham, Clarke, Olayiwola, Akarakiri will all (bar maybe the latter) know they will get minutes if they perform at Everton.
 
This makes pretty grim reading https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn081g8x520o

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I think all of that will be from Armstrong. It's not like we're flogging players to other teams either, as only really Gordon fits into that camp.

It's pretty much always been like this for us, hasn't it? I don't recall us ever having an influx of academy players to use. There was Hibbert and Osman come through at about the same time, and to a lesser degree Vaughan and Anichebe. We tend to produce one every few years. There's 3 Everton academy players with PL minutes this season (Gordon, Barkley and Armstrong) and the numbers shown here are including players who are now senior pro's and not neccesarily players who are just breaking out of the academy.
 
remember them kids that al ferguson would never win the league with? well, their kids are all at city now.

The wealthiest, most prestige, league winning club hoovers up every crumb of talent. we had a generational prodigy come through and we paid man utd to take him from us (the staged payment method where we effectively gave them a no interest delayed payment plan) and then slashed the money up the wall on dross. Its a good thing we've been penniless as we're dangerous with a few quid.
Track record? we had to buy Baines and Jagielka back. We've been needing a LB like Robinson since we let him leave for buttons.
We're our own worst enemy. £16m on myko? really? REALLY?

Shambles!
 
The Daily Hate has quite a long article by Mike Keegan about the Friedkins, Grealish, the accounts and the women's team behind a paywall. Here is the relevant academy section:
The club’s famous academy has also been earmarked for improvement. Internally, there is a view that the well has been allowed to run dry and that the conveyor belt has slowed. When a club is struggling to pay its bills, as Everton was at the fag end of the Farhad Moshiri regime, the academy is often the target for savings.
That is no longer the case. Officials believe that Everton can offer a pathway to the first team above and beyond that provided by their North West rivals. That they can look parents in the eye and tell them that their child has more chance of making it here than anywhere else.
Extra investment has been made. The club believe they were successful in bringing children into the setup at the age of six but were then losing the best of them to perceived bigger rivals when they hit 12.
Nick Cox, formerly Manchester United’s director of academy, is now Everton’s technical director and is influential, but there is an immediate gap to be filled with a dearth of talent coming through behind Harrison Armstrong, a gifted midfielder who has made 13 first-team appearances this season.
As a result, focus will be placed on recruiting players between the ages of 16 to 20. The view is that there are a lot of unhappy parents and a lot of prospects elsewhere who have 14 players blocking their route to the first team at clubs whose strategy is to stockpile talent.
 

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