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zero
Player Valuation: £30m
Jesus Christ, He's a changed man for the 3rd time in his Everton career....oh well, might aswell give him the benefit of the doubt. I am sure he'll [Poor language removed] it all up again and get shipped out in the summer but still we can dream of a great VDM.
neonleon
Player Valuation: £35m
he's back. fresh from his latest reincarnation as a dedicated 100% fit player.
The third coming of Everton's saviour.
Something tells me we should shove him straight back into the first team before he gets depressed again and forgets why he was put on €ods' green parks...
...and drifts perpetually into damnation.
The third coming of Everton's saviour.
Something tells me we should shove him straight back into the first team before he gets depressed again and forgets why he was put on €ods' green parks...
...and drifts perpetually into damnation.
FCConnecticut
Player Valuation: £2.5m
rehab clinic
VDM back from Widnes?
Sounds like he,s been through a lot with his little girl so his mind set this time i can understand just hope it works for him now and he turns it on
TX Bill
Player Valuation: £80m
Don't know if you're joking or not Leonbil but I agree.
Put him in the first team straight away (not necessarily the starting lineup but at least on the bench) and get him involved asap. Everyone agrees that with current injuries, we're lacking a bit in the midfield.
Watched his interview on Everton TV and it sounds like injuries and fitness issues are behind him now and it's all up to him.
Put him in the first team straight away (not necessarily the starting lineup but at least on the bench) and get him involved asap. Everyone agrees that with current injuries, we're lacking a bit in the midfield.
Watched his interview on Everton TV and it sounds like injuries and fitness issues are behind him now and it's all up to him.
I feel for him, I cant help it.
He's been honest, give him his chance.
He's been honest, give him his chance.
uknightbreed
Player Valuation: £35m
its a shame really as he has become the boy who cried wolf.
but currently i couldnt give a crap about his let downs in the past or wether he is gonna be successfull in the future for us.
football isnt that important especially when tragedy strikes as it has for vdm.
he is a human just like the rest of us and has a sick child.
my thoughts are with him and his family and i just hope everything turns out ok for them.
if things also turn out well on the pitch then thats just an added bonus for him and us.but that shouldnt be the most important thing in his or any of our lives.
but currently i couldnt give a crap about his let downs in the past or wether he is gonna be successfull in the future for us.
football isnt that important especially when tragedy strikes as it has for vdm.
he is a human just like the rest of us and has a sick child.
my thoughts are with him and his family and i just hope everything turns out ok for them.
if things also turn out well on the pitch then thats just an added bonus for him and us.but that shouldnt be the most important thing in his or any of our lives.
Robert Jarvis
Player Valuation: £35m
The only reason VDM is still at the club is that in the close season nobody came in for him and no surprise at that. Who would want him. He has had chances. The only reason Moyes did tell him to sling his hook is a matter of the compensation he would demand.
TX Bill
Player Valuation: £80m
I'll tell you what, I've given this a bit more thought.
Here in the USA, most fans usually get teed off if a player doesn't give it his all on the field. Most are willing to overlook minor (emphasis on minor) off field transgressions if that player gives 100% when selected. Nobody here takes into account the salary of the player, and they don't hold it against a player if they've been battling injuries. Once they're on the pitch, court, gridiron, or diamond, they want to see the player perform and do their best so that their team has the best chance of winning. If a player steps over the line, they get disciplined, fined, and usually apologize to the fans and to their teammates for their behavior. They also end up in the manager's doghouse for awhile.
If the player has been involved in something major, like illegal activities (a la Michael Vick) or he's a cancer on his team (a la Terrell Owens) then that's a no brainer. You cut 'em lose and in some cases, you may be able to recover some salary.
What I don't get is Everton supporters who just want rid of him pure and simple, regardless of how many "chances" he's had (at last count, some have put it as high as four but for me, it's just one long story). He hasn't been a cancer on the team to my knowledge. He hasn't been involved in illegal activities to my knowledge. He's made some poor decisions to be sure, and he's been disciplined for it as he rightly should have been.
I think I would completely understand if VDM had ample time on the pitch and subsequently, played as if he didn't care about the shirt or at the very least, didn't play for professional pride. I believe Everton have had a few players like that in past days. I could understand Everton supporters wanting rid of VDM or any player if that were the case and I'd probably be the one leading the charge for Moyes to send 'em off to different pastures.
However, VDM really hasn't been on the pitch much and a lot of that (not all mind you) is down to fitness and injury issues. I'd also say it wasn't easy for him to settle in England. Won't be the first time that's happened to a player.
So, he's close to fit, supposedly past his injuries, and hopefully has learned what his manager and teammates expect of him. I've got to figure that there's more to this from Moyes' point of view than just trying to save face due to a bad signing. Why has he kept him this long and gone through this whole ordeal with him? Wages owed to him? Nah, Everton FC is big enough to eat a players contract if they had to. No, there's something else to it.
I want to see him on the field and get a run of games. If he's terrible, then that's the way it goes and chalk it up to one of Moyes lesser buys. But if it works out, it's like a new signing, we get something out of him, he helps the team win, and worst case, for those who'd still be critics, we might be able to get something for him in the transfer market.
So try this one again.
Other than Arteta, who can produce the flair we've been lacking in the midfield? No one other than VDM. But for Evertonians to just want to get rid of the guy or banish him to the reserves, how about we banish some of the players who haven't consistently produced for us and don't create what we need in the midfield. To take a leaf from the "Let's Bash VDM Book", they've had their chances and they ain't cutting it, get rid of, immediately.
Here in the USA, most fans usually get teed off if a player doesn't give it his all on the field. Most are willing to overlook minor (emphasis on minor) off field transgressions if that player gives 100% when selected. Nobody here takes into account the salary of the player, and they don't hold it against a player if they've been battling injuries. Once they're on the pitch, court, gridiron, or diamond, they want to see the player perform and do their best so that their team has the best chance of winning. If a player steps over the line, they get disciplined, fined, and usually apologize to the fans and to their teammates for their behavior. They also end up in the manager's doghouse for awhile.
If the player has been involved in something major, like illegal activities (a la Michael Vick) or he's a cancer on his team (a la Terrell Owens) then that's a no brainer. You cut 'em lose and in some cases, you may be able to recover some salary.
What I don't get is Everton supporters who just want rid of him pure and simple, regardless of how many "chances" he's had (at last count, some have put it as high as four but for me, it's just one long story). He hasn't been a cancer on the team to my knowledge. He hasn't been involved in illegal activities to my knowledge. He's made some poor decisions to be sure, and he's been disciplined for it as he rightly should have been.
I think I would completely understand if VDM had ample time on the pitch and subsequently, played as if he didn't care about the shirt or at the very least, didn't play for professional pride. I believe Everton have had a few players like that in past days. I could understand Everton supporters wanting rid of VDM or any player if that were the case and I'd probably be the one leading the charge for Moyes to send 'em off to different pastures.
However, VDM really hasn't been on the pitch much and a lot of that (not all mind you) is down to fitness and injury issues. I'd also say it wasn't easy for him to settle in England. Won't be the first time that's happened to a player.
So, he's close to fit, supposedly past his injuries, and hopefully has learned what his manager and teammates expect of him. I've got to figure that there's more to this from Moyes' point of view than just trying to save face due to a bad signing. Why has he kept him this long and gone through this whole ordeal with him? Wages owed to him? Nah, Everton FC is big enough to eat a players contract if they had to. No, there's something else to it.
I want to see him on the field and get a run of games. If he's terrible, then that's the way it goes and chalk it up to one of Moyes lesser buys. But if it works out, it's like a new signing, we get something out of him, he helps the team win, and worst case, for those who'd still be critics, we might be able to get something for him in the transfer market.
So try this one again.
Other than Arteta, who can produce the flair we've been lacking in the midfield? No one other than VDM. But for Evertonians to just want to get rid of the guy or banish him to the reserves, how about we banish some of the players who haven't consistently produced for us and don't create what we need in the midfield. To take a leaf from the "Let's Bash VDM Book", they've had their chances and they ain't cutting it, get rid of, immediately.
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