Usmanov

[Eggsyblueskin]

I personally find it unpleasant when creatures like the odious Kroenke gain control of any football club, (except the R.S. of course).

 

[degsy]

Usmanov is already as involved in Everton as he needs to be. Away from football Moshiri is still his right hand man and good friend, so you would imagine some discussion concerning Moshiris plans for our club would take place. Despite his great wealth financial restrictions mean he could only improve our situation incrementally anyway, exactly as Moshiri is doing. The funds and contacts Moshiri is accessing on our behalf would be exactly the same as if Usmanov were doing it.
As our position (we hope) improves this will reflect extremely well on Usmanov and greatly strengthen his hand in the struggle with Kroenke, which I believe was the intention from the beginning.
Put simply Usmanov is exactly where he needs and wants to be concerning Everton.

Given we all know jack in real terms, this seems a reasonable and probable...any more of this and I'll report you

 

[bluerobert]

Depends - Kroenke is apparently set to borrow for financing a new stadium for his NFL team using Arsenal as a asset to guarantee the loan etc (at least thats a pretty strong rumour circulating in the US)

Interesting mate, thanks for that

 

[zirc]

Depends - Kroenke is apparently set to borrow for financing a new stadium for his NFL team using Arsenal as a asset to guarantee the loan etc (at least thats a pretty strong rumour circulating in the US)

christ sake, I'd not go as far as actually feeling sorry for Arsenal supporters but imagine having this sort of snake running your club.

 

[Jokerdan]

christ sake, I'd not go as far as actually feeling sorry for Arsenal supporters but imagine having this sort of snake running your club.

According to Dave they are all snakes. Just some are Rattlers and some are Boa Constrictors and l know which l would prefer. Better than the hooded Cobra assassins in charge of Blackburn.

 

[bluestevon]

christ sake, I'd not go as far as actually feeling sorry for Arsenal supporters but imagine having this sort of snake running your club.

Oh God mate, every fan of every team he's been involved with despises him as an owner. The rams he's moving to la from st Louis, hes actually from their and is,still moving his home town team, he is 100% all about the bottom line, zero passion or sentiment.

 

[d34noj]

Depends - Kroenke is apparently set to borrow for financing a new stadium for his NFL team using Arsenal as a asset to guarantee the loan etc (at least thats a pretty strong rumour circulating in the US)

That tells me he's keeping Arsenal for the long term regardless of opinion (on the basis he keeps making money from it) Just depends on if Usmanov has the patience to ride it out to see if Kroenke will get rid.

Personally I think and hope Usmanov is paving the way to get out, using the media and fan unrest to get out - then hopefully cone to us as a kind of 'look at what you could have won'.

 

[TheFinnFan]

More and more convinced that Usmanov will ditch Arsenal pretty soonish

 

[bluestevon]

That tells me he's keeping Arsenal for the long term regardless of opinion (on the basis he keeps making money from it) Just depends on if Usmanov has the patience to ride it out to see if Kroenke will get rid.

Personally I think and hope Usmanov is paving the way to get out, using the media and fan unrest to get out - then hopefully cone to us as a kind of 'look at what you could have won'.

Yup, their is almost no chance on Earth that Kroenke will ever let go of Arsenal mate.

As for opinion, i doubt their is anyone around who cares less about fan and public opinion than he does from all evidence over the years

think that Usmanov has been their for the best part of ten years now with absolutely zero traction, doubt he will hang around much longer myself

 

[PhilM]

I personally find it unpleasant when creatures like the odious Kroenke gain control of any football club, (except the R.S. of course).

You'll find that a fair percentage of the wealthy are similarly unpleasant as it's an aspect of their ruthlessness that's enabled their great wealth.

 

[kithnou]

think that Usmanov has been their for the best part of ten years now with absolutely zero traction, doubt he will hang around much longer myself

Keeping all financial reasoning aside, he looks a goose if he keeps accepting the treatment he is continually receiving for a decade.

 

[PhilM]

More and more convinced that Usmanov will ditch Arsenal pretty soonish

Has his stock risen during his ten year involvement? Would it be realistic to expect that it will rise further? These may be leverage for staying.

 

[kithnou]

Has his stock risen during his ten year involvement? Would it be realistic to expect that it will rise further? These may be leverage for staying.

Yes, but as I said above, he looks a fool.

 

[d34noj]

Yup, their is almost no chance on Earth that Kroenke will ever let go of Arsenal mate.

As for opinion, i doubt their is anyone around who cares less about fan and public opinion than he does from all evidence over the years

think that Usmanov has been their for the best part of ten years now with absolutely zero traction, doubt he will hang around much longer myself

All of this to a tee mate. The fact that Usmanov didn't have to issue a statement - but did, highlights something is afoot to me at least.

He could have quite easily kept his trap shut and let his investment grow like the rest of the board members, but I don't think he's there to make money, he initially went there to create a footballing powerhouse. I wonder if the penny's dropped that it isn't going to happen.

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

Depends - Kroenke is apparently set to borrow for financing a new stadium for his NFL team using Arsenal as a asset to guarantee the loan etc (at least thats a pretty strong rumour circulating in the US)

I would assume that Kroenke would assure the loan company that he will be staying at the arse for the duration of the loan, also if this goes through I would think there would be no way Usmanov would buy Kroenke's shares knowing Arsenal were guarantors for Kroenke's NFL's stadium.