Clarky cat
Player Valuation: £35m
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Dabbers did OK imo,
Good to see him playing with his socks down. #learning
Tennessee Blue Mike
Player Valuation: £50m
Been watching Alan Whittle reruns.
Aries
Player Valuation: £20m
Better than the glimpses we’ve seen to date. Now don’t destroy his confidence further by benching him again Tuesday! Play him, back him, and let him play his way in to a bit of form.
There’s keeping possession to dominate a match and there’s keeping possession due to being risk averse.
Maybe too subtle for you
And if Baines, Osman KDH are your bench mark for flair players, no wonder you are so content with middling Moyes.
Nil Satis Moyes Optimum / W.W.P.D.
Anyway this is Diblings thread, can debate your Poundland Pep in his own thread if you insist.
….when you see the pre-match clips from the training ground, you will see the endless routines of players in a circle with one or two in the middle chasing and trying to win the ball back. They aren’t playing ‘ring-a-roses’, they are possession routines. They do them so often, those little one-touch passing exchanges become the norm.
Watch most PL games and if you look closely you’ll see that skill applied in match situations. You might not notice it because it looks easy, but it’s difficult, it comes from hours of practice. Sunderland yesterday did it aplenty in wide areas.
Managers will encourage players to take on difficult passes but what annoys them is giving the ball away cheaply. Moyes often spoke last season of a lack of quality in the top third, he wanted creativity, players who can open defence. What he doesn’t want (as per interview with Iroegbunam) is his players not looking after the football and losing possession easily, especially in dangerous areas (Beto at Chelsea last season led to them scoring) or misplacing a simple pass.
Personally, I’d much prefer a manager coaching his players that way but because it’s Moyes his detractors criticise that approach. Criticism is fine but some of the stuff posted about him is just plain daft.
Exactly…. Needs to be in the starting line up for Tuesday.
Hopefully Jack is back to replace McNeil.
However, we all know Moyes well enough to know what’s going to happen.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
I can forgive this safety first approach at the moment because we have a slow team that struggles to recover if anybody misplaced a pass. However this stifles any creativity because the players are scared to try the unexpected. This is one of the reasons why we don't score many goals. We need more pace in the team so we can recover the ball straight away if we do lose possession, and probably a less cautious manager to go along with it.
AaronTheBlue
Player Valuation: £60m
He played well, he needs time and minutes, he is extremely talented and I think if we show some patience he will become a very important player for us over the years.
Young players including Barry, dibling, Armstrong need time, our fanbase is funny because when we sign young players we always promise to give them time but never do, it's hard and sometimes very frustrating but in a season or two of regular football pay dividends.
Young players including Barry, dibling, Armstrong need time, our fanbase is funny because when we sign young players we always promise to give them time but never do, it's hard and sometimes very frustrating but in a season or two of regular football pay dividends.
….i find it staggering to believe Moyes is not encouraging his players to be creative in the top third. To think that he’s telling players like Ndiaye, Grealish and KDH to ‘play safe’ is verging on being a bit daft. Virtually every interview he did last season he spoke about lack of attacking creativity, to think that he’s brought creative players in to stifle them is bizarre.
Grealish has spoken of his affection for the Manager, KDH says he’s never enjoyed his football as much. To think those players have been told to ‘be safe’ and not express themselves is for the birds.
What will annoy him is losing possession cheaply, especially in dangerous areas. He’ll be encouraging Dibling to be creative, he’ll want Dibling to be creative, have no doubt about that.
I was chuffed with Dibling on Saturday, one bright spot for me.
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hallamblue
Player Valuation: £50m
It's not just about the final third Eggs, a lot of goals these days are scored by bringing the opposition on to you and then passing through them. Look at that goal Leeds scored against Sunderland. Moyes would never have allowed us to play out like that, probably wisely due to our terrible ball control until it gets to Grealish or N'diaye. Until we have players capable of passing and moving at speed, in defence, midfield and attack we will struggle to score goals.
In all fairness, and I've been moaning as much as anyone about Dibling's lack of playing time, two starts in 4 days is a big ask for a young kid who's had so few minutes.
I mean the fact he's had so few minutes in the first place was avoidable, but it is what it is now.
I think it's about pitch position. In the final third, yes, they'll be encouraged to be creative. But when we're in the middle third and need to get up the pitch we're a bit tedious and conservative to watch and that will be down to instructions too.
….Alcaraz transitioned well, like he usually does, it’s just that he lacked quality to deliver the right pass. I didn’t get the impression Alcaraz had been stifled, it’s more down to quality than tactics. Rohl showed decent energy but is another who was wasteful in possession.
We actually got into decent situations at Burnley but the execution of vital pass was poor. It’s not tactics, it’s what happens when your 3 most creative footballers are missing. On another day Alcaraz in particular could make those runs and pick a pass, he’s done it before.
Terrific cross from Dibling for the chance Beto missed. What will annoy the manager is when Iroegbunam was too casual and got dispossessed leaving us wide open.
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